Dont submit sites with cheater LLs recips

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Linkster

In answer to the question about LLs that cheat and how to find them - there is a small issue in that while most will blacklist a LL for stealing/copying somebodies LL recips (like has happened in the past for Hoes and Cleos and a few others) there are link list owners out there that dont care about that and will continue to list free sites using those stolen recips or other copyright infringements etc.

But there are also linklist owners who weren't around for some of these infractions. For instance I've seen a good deal of LL rules that say no 'Cherry Picked Links' but I had no idea why. I actually thought it may be a CP thing.

I remember someone copying Cleo's recips and if I noticed that I probably would have mentioned something to the submitter.

I guess my point is, some LL owners -- like myself -- are just as clueless about which LL's are considered cheaters. I appreciate the lists You and Useless put down below and I'll try to keep a better eye out for those sites. So it may not be that we don't care, but that we are just not informed.

BTW: I know fuckthensuck used to be in my recip tables, I had no idea...

-Preacher

[Linkster]

Mr Blue - basically in answer to your question about just tossing the free sites - since I work only with partner submitters - I do (and did in this case) send an email to the submitter to let them know for each and every case

I think that it would be tough to say - here's a list - because again a lot of LL owners dont consider copying somebodies recips a "cheating infraction" or they simply dont care as evidenced by their continual listings of sites that do have those recips - and yes these would be LL owners that do know about the occurences and even posted in the threads way back

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Mr Blue - basically in answer to your question about just tossing the free sites - since I work only with partner submitters - I do (and did in this case) send an email to the submitter to let them know for each and every case

yeah you run a good show and I know you would toss an email if something was up.

I think that it would be tough to say - here's a list - because again a lot of LL owners dont consider copying somebodies recips a "cheating infraction" or they simply dont care as evidenced by their continual listings of sites that do have those recips - and yes these would be LL owners that do know about the occurences and even posted in the threads way back

Yeah, I understand that it's not everyone's rule...but that's why there's rule pages for every LL. I mean I submit to FilthyEarl, if I see on his rule page that he doesn't want his LL associated with x, y, z, etc...I won't put the recips with his. When someone says, so and so, cheated on their rule page, I'll usually look it up and drop them from my submit list if it's something I deem cheating as well.

I don't know, it just seems like a new LinkList is popping up daily now. It's getting hard to keep track of the players.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

I don't know, it just seems like a new LinkList is popping up daily now. It's getting hard to keep track of the players.

70%-90% of those new LLs will fade into nothingness as their owners relize how much work it really is to run a LL. Plus, you've got to focus on getting traffic to give away for free, which is a concept some people don't find too appealing once they get right down to it

Theiving motherfuckers who can't be bothered to design their own recips should be taken out and buried in a pit of scarabs.

Link list owners that multisubmit (like fuckthensuck.com) are just fucking uncivilized.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by MadMax

70%-90% of those new LLs will fade into nothingness as their owners relize how much work it really is to run a LL. Plus, you've got to focus on getting traffic to give away for free, which is a concept some people don't find too appealing once they get right down to it

Theiving motherfuckers who can't be bothered to design their own recips should be taken out and buried in a pit of scarabs.

Link list owners that multisubmit (like fuckthensuck.com) are just fucking uncivilized.

Well said Max

With a minor addition...add a fire ant mound in with the scarabs

Running a link site is definitely not for the feint of heart or those looking for a quick buck. It's more of a long LONG term love/hate kinda thang...lol.

[Mr. Blue]

lol, I run TGP's and it's pretty much the same mentality. I mean there's 4000 or so TGPs out there and around 40 that actually update and send decent traffic daily.

When I started submitting freesites again I used the quality over quantity equation and it seems to work nicely that way. Still, if there's a specific LL that pisses you off because they've cheated one way or another...it just seems easier to me to post their names on your rules page.

[Surfn]

I see several of you asking us to add the sites we won't list to our rules/submit pages. My reply is simple: Why should we do that when they come and go?

Here's the best tip for not getting rejected by any LL for having a link to someone they don't like for whatever reason, look at their friends list. Most lists have a list of friends longer than the number of recips most submitters use. Submit to those friends and use their recips and you won't get rejected for putting a link list in what they consider a bad neighborhood.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Running a link site is definitely not for the feint of heart or those looking for a quick buck. It's more of a long LONG term love/hate kinda thang...lol.

Amen...

When I submit a free-site -- a rare occurance nowadays -- I only submit to regualar posters on GG & Jim.

This boards given me a lot and I want to give back to those that have helped and supported me. Besides...regular posters here are either honest or obviously not and it's easy to avoid those few.