Are autosubmitters true evil?

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

WRONG! Think about the process, compare the difference between auto and manual, and you may figure out how intelligent scripts know when a link was auto-submitted.

For starters besides the obvious referrer and UA which could be spoofed, I could see a mechanism based on the time from which the form was loaded (if at all) and it was submitted. Autosubmits would be near instantanious, hand submits would not be so even for the fastest typist.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Allfetish

Autosubmits would be near instantanious, hand submits would not be so even for the fastest typist.

True, but scripts on both ends make a mistake...whether it is autosubmits or a tgp script. Example, for The Hun I manually submit...that's just too huge not to manually submit to. I type 125 wpm, one time I hit enter, the verification word came up, it was something like "Clear"...my fingers typed it, hit enter, and the script said I wasn't a human, lol.

Completely automated everything isn't a good idea. Whether it's a submitter using an autosubmit program or whether its a tgp that sets rules up for their tgp that doesn't meet real world tgp standards. The #1 error I see on new tgps regard setting too few outbound links. Doing that just makes you look like a noob sauce. Testing your script before going live would have prevented that.

Know your tools or it'll make you look like a tool.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Allfetish

For starters besides the obvious referrer and UA which could be spoofed, I could see a mechanism based on the time from which the form was loaded (if at all) and it was submitted. Autosubmits would be near instantanious, hand submits would not be so even for the fastest typist.

Most better autosubmitters have a timing option since ~1-2 years to simulate the time a human beeing would need to fill the form.
But actually I only know 1 script that checks for that.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by hjnet

Most better autosubmitters have a timing option since ~1-2 years to simulate the time a human beeing would need to fill the form.
But actually I only know 1 script that checks for that.

Then you don't know many scripts. The smartest scripts test for it, and don't report their findings to anyone except the link site owner. Why give submitters information on how to cheat your system?

Alex

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by hjnet

Most better autosubmitters have a timing option since ~1-2 years to simulate the time a human beeing would need to fill the form.
But actually I only know 1 script that checks for that.

That is nice option from the autosubmitters perspective then. I don't know much about them. I was only trying to come up with ways to detect them. I'm sure you could do other stuff as well (such as randomly change the fields in away to cause it to crash and burn every once in a while to make the autosubmit ibvious), or if it becomes a problem go the the graphic security code setup.

I allow it on mine, but I think it is disrespectful to do it on someone's LL when they don't allow it. :twocents:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I suppose submitters get banned for auto-submitting all the time because reviewers are pyschic,

UW, you really crack me up sometimes! Thanks!