"Political Influence of Adult Sites" and "Free Speech Coalition" pressure.

Bill · 2006-02-07, 03:33 AM

This was fairly heavily discussed in this part of this thread:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...t=28269&page=3

The ICRA decision is one available to be made by every webmaster. I personally admit I have a strong personal dislike of the ICRA website and tag, so this colors my arguments.

However, to sum up:

1. The ICRA tag is nearly totally unapparent to parents and politicians. We need a tag that is crystal clear and present on every webpage, accesible not only by all browsers but by every parent and all other interested parties.
A self-rating tag is politically useless if it isn't _obvious_ and simple.

2. The ICRA tag is needlessly complex. All we need is a YES or NO - kids not allowed. This is porn - the ICRA/PICS tag attempts to categorize all possible "offensive" topics, and it's categories for sexual materials are, to put it plainly, stupid and not applicable to porn.

3. 3rd parties create industry wide vulnerabilities. (I've asked several times if anyone has a scriptlet or tool that creates PICS tags without ICRA - I'd accept the PICS designation that reads "erect penis and explicit sexual actions" as a universal tag if everyone else agreed to it, and it could be distilled into a simple universal tag.)

4. One single, simple, universally recognized and recognizable tag that can be placed in every porn header is simply a better technology. Why not abandon a poor technology and all start using a simple technology now, while the time to make the decision is ripe?

There are a few more lesser reasons, but these are the most important to my mind.

If you want to campaign for the ICRA tags go ahead. I don't like them, and it will take a lot of good arguments to convince me otherwise.

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I think I'll add this topic to the list of brainstorms:

* Create an action group to promote self-rating tags to the browser companies, politicians, and other interested organizations and companies.

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2006-02-07, 03:33 AM	#11
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	This was fairly heavily discussed in this part of this thread: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...t=28269&page=3 The ICRA decision is one available to be made by every webmaster. I personally admit I have a strong personal dislike of the ICRA website and tag, so this colors my arguments. However, to sum up: 1. The ICRA tag is nearly totally unapparent to parents and politicians. We need a tag that is crystal clear and present on every webpage, accesible not only by all browsers but by every parent and all other interested parties. A self-rating tag is politically useless if it isn't _obvious_ and simple. 2. The ICRA tag is needlessly complex. All we need is a YES or NO - kids not allowed. This is porn - the ICRA/PICS tag attempts to categorize all possible "offensive" topics, and it's categories for sexual materials are, to put it plainly, stupid and not applicable to porn. 3. 3rd parties create industry wide vulnerabilities. (I've asked several times if anyone has a scriptlet or tool that creates PICS tags without ICRA - I'd accept the PICS designation that reads "erect penis and explicit sexual actions" as a universal tag if everyone else agreed to it, and it could be distilled into a simple universal tag.) 4. One single, simple, universally recognized and recognizable tag that can be placed in every porn header is simply a better technology. Why not abandon a poor technology and all start using a simple technology now, while the time to make the decision is ripe? There are a few more lesser reasons, but these are the most important to my mind. If you want to campaign for the ICRA tags go ahead. I don't like them, and it will take a lot of good arguments to convince me otherwise. ----- I think I'll add this topic to the list of brainstorms: * Create an action group to promote self-rating tags to the browser companies, politicians, and other interested organizations and companies.