Anyone here feel best qualified to be point man with the FSC?

Chop Smith · 2006-02-15, 06:35 PM

I signed up online and ccbill was the processor. I have not looked. Did they change something in the last several months.

Bill · 2006-02-15, 06:49 PM

Yes, they changed it Chop.

My first $50 donation was made thru that same ccbill system.

Now they have this:

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contribution.php

Far-L · 2006-02-15, 09:06 PM

Just talked to Tom extensively... here are some key points to get across:

1. the old FSC is in serious transition and moving fast and hard to get everything online, message board, polling, memberships, etc. but it is taking time.

2. Just because Cambria is going one direction doesn't necessarily mean that FSC is going the same way.

3. Position Papers are being prepared and the voice of the webmasters will be included.

4. FSC is trying to get included in the hearings and making it clear that webmasters must be included is part of that effort.

5. The FSC Lobbyists do have a lot more support than what is projected in the media and we have to help our politicians understand the issues so they can help make sensible policies.

6. The idea of a filterable metatag is merely an idea and is open to discussion, debate, and counsel. The idea of a proactive approach is a good one regardless and that is what is being suggested for now until better ideas are presented.

7. Political process and lawsuits don't happen in Internet time and people have to be patient about certain aspects of the process. On the other hand - every single suggestion and plan of action presented by its members is helpful now and must be immediately considered. However, decisions in a democratic organization take time - even when there is online polling people will still need to be given time to make decisions.

Bill · 2006-02-16, 04:00 AM

Thank you Far-L. I'd been hearing many of these things, both from Tom earlier and from others who've been researching the FSC. That all sounds good, like a good start at least.

The comment about Cambria is interesting, and good news, because I think most onliners have been wondering why Cambria hasn't been doing a better job of describing U.S. webmasters and the U.S. online adult business.

Hopefully you can tell us more during the radio show.

Bill · 2006-02-16, 04:12 AM

Well, since activeX reveals me to be a dullard, the minimal demand I had been thinking of is now a moot point.

And, presumably, the FSC is taking steps to develop their site, as Far-L says in item 1 in his list, so action on the website is also a moot point.

So, that means we need to move to the next most important and symbolically powerful issues.

So, anybody have any thoughts on what the next most important issue should be?

I'm thinking it should be something we can realistically expect can be well started in this upcoming year.

DJilla · 2006-02-16, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Just talked to Tom extensively... here are some key points to get across:

1. the old FSC is in serious transition and moving fast and hard to get everything online, message board, polling, memberships, etc. but it is taking time.

2. Just because Cambria is going one direction doesn't necessarily mean that FSC is going the same way.

3. Position Papers are being prepared and the voice of the webmasters will be included.

4. FSC is trying to get included in the hearings and making it clear that webmasters must be included is part of that effort.

5. The FSC Lobbyists do have a lot more support than what is projected in the media and we have to help our politicians understand the issues so they can help make sensible policies.

6. The idea of a filterable metatag is merely an idea and is open to discussion, debate, and counsel. The idea of a proactive approach is a good one regardless and that is what is being suggested for now until better ideas are presented.

7. Political process and lawsuits don't happen in Internet time and people have to be patient about certain aspects of the process. On the other hand - every single suggestion and plan of action presented by its members is helpful now and must be immediately considered. However, decisions in a democratic organization take time - even when there is online polling people will still need to be given time to make decisions.

Yep!

Bill · 2006-02-16, 09:35 PM

For the moment, I'm happy enough to have Spike do a little recon on the FSC. Most of us know who he is, altho he doesn't spend much of any time here, and I don't know where he does hang out online.

Since we are still in the research phase of things, having anybody who is trying to gather information about the FSC should be good enough.

We'll see how things go.

------------------

Let's see, what to ask the FSC to do to represent us?

How about an anti-spam and anti-scumware campaign? As far as most people are concerned, spam and scumware is synonymous with porn.

How about getting the FSC to push the idea that bulkers and the toolbar crowd are criminals that are hated by real adult webmasters, and to tell people that spam is the problem, not legitimate adult entertainment?

Hah. That oughta make the bulkers and the sponsors happy, eh?

2006-02-15, 06:35 PM	#1
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	I signed up online and ccbill was the processor. I have not looked. Did they change something in the last several months. __________________

2006-02-15, 09:06 PM	#3
Far-L Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 265	Just talked to Tom extensively... here are some key points to get across: 1. the old FSC is in serious transition and moving fast and hard to get everything online, message board, polling, memberships, etc. but it is taking time. 2. Just because Cambria is going one direction doesn't necessarily mean that FSC is going the same way. 3. Position Papers are being prepared and the voice of the webmasters will be included. 4. FSC is trying to get included in the hearings and making it clear that webmasters must be included is part of that effort. 5. The FSC Lobbyists do have a lot more support than what is projected in the media and we have to help our politicians understand the issues so they can help make sensible policies. 6. The idea of a filterable metatag is merely an idea and is open to discussion, debate, and counsel. The idea of a proactive approach is a good one regardless and that is what is being suggested for now until better ideas are presented. 7. Political process and lawsuits don't happen in Internet time and people have to be patient about certain aspects of the process. On the other hand - every single suggestion and plan of action presented by its members is helpful now and must be immediately considered. However, decisions in a democratic organization take time - even when there is online polling people will still need to be given time to make decisions. __________________ www.homegrowncontent.com www.homegrowncash.com

2006-02-16, 04:12 AM	#5
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, since activeX reveals me to be a dullard, the minimal demand I had been thinking of is now a moot point. And, presumably, the FSC is taking steps to develop their site, as Far-L says in item 1 in his list, so action on the website is also a moot point. So, that means we need to move to the next most important and symbolically powerful issues. So, anybody have any thoughts on what the next most important issue should be? I'm thinking it should be something we can realistically expect can be well started in this upcoming year. Last edited by Bill; 2006-02-16 at 04:16 AM..

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2006-02-15, 06:49 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Yes, they changed it Chop. My first $50 donation was made thru that same ccbill system. Now they have this: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contribution.php

2006-02-16, 04:00 AM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Thank you Far-L. I'd been hearing many of these things, both from Tom earlier and from others who've been researching the FSC. That all sounds good, like a good start at least. The comment about Cambria is interesting, and good news, because I think most onliners have been wondering why Cambria hasn't been doing a better job of describing U.S. webmasters and the U.S. online adult business. Hopefully you can tell us more during the radio show.

2006-02-16, 09:35 PM	#7
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	For the moment, I'm happy enough to have Spike do a little recon on the FSC. Most of us know who he is, altho he doesn't spend much of any time here, and I don't know where he does hang out online. Since we are still in the research phase of things, having anybody who is trying to gather information about the FSC should be good enough. We'll see how things go. ------------------ Let's see, what to ask the FSC to do to represent us? How about an anti-spam and anti-scumware campaign? As far as most people are concerned, spam and scumware is synonymous with porn. How about getting the FSC to push the idea that bulkers and the toolbar crowd are criminals that are hated by real adult webmasters, and to tell people that spam is the problem, not legitimate adult entertainment? Hah. That oughta make the bulkers and the sponsors happy, eh?