Do you think surfers were spoiled, or have been burned.

Originally Posted by sbm4latinaz

Actually there are allot of good amateur magazines out there, problem is that they are usually over priced.

Good point, but these over priced magazines sell for $5 to $10 and give 10 to 12 sets. Yet they have a circulation in the tens of thousands. In fact it's hardly profitable to produce a magazine under 10,000. Compare that with paysites and you see we are missing out.

eeeerrrr ever heard of "home grown" ?
yes you are right on the DVD/VHS side of porn allot of good amateur series quickly become pro-am once the series takes off, "dirty debutants" 1 - 4 was real amateur after that it became pro-am, but "home grown" is still true amateur. and a few others

Home Grown came from the Video world to the Internet. I was talking about Internet companies going the other way.

I cant agree there, it is very very hard to find real amateur, most of the crap I find on the net is pro-am, a rule of thumb I use is if you have to guess if its amateur then its not amateur.

outside of southerncharms and dreamnet there is not much "true" amateur stuff out there and even some of them ruin it by photoshoping their pics to death or hiring pro photographers and making their sets look staged.

A lot of what I see is paid model-poor photographer.

Amateur = Someone doing it for free, usually for the love of it.

Amateurs pick up medals at the Olympics or go look on your local golf course to see "Amateurs" so not by any means a word to describe "Poor Quality". I've always known this niche as "Readers Wives" ie the boyfriend shooting his girlfriend. What most of the "Amateur" content on the Internet lacks is the look of fun and spontaneity on the models face. Very often the model is posing professionally and detatched and the shooter is shooting badly.

The Adunt Net had millions of people interested in porn surfing through it, yet sell to 1-1000. we need to look very hard and long at why we all convert badly.