Anyone here feel best qualified to be point man with the FSC?

[MonsterPartners]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

The motion has been seconded & carried. I gladly accept this position....WHOA! Slow down a bit

What am I being nominated for?

From what Bill says, I don't think I want it either

Besides, if you threw me up there, I'd recommend that everything have a legit warning page, thus squashing every TGP & gallery maker's business model

Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that a warning page would ever stop a minor from cicking YES I'm OVER 18? I mean, they are stealing thier parents credit cards, what makes people think a warning page will stop them?

Don't get me wrong, I WANT minors to stay the hell out of viewing adult content. I just believe the FCC and many others are forgetting one thing...PARENTS...they should have a role in monitoring thier children.

The government can create a xxx or whatever. They can make us in the adult industry jump through hoops. They can take every single precaution available and it is STILL going to happen because parents are NOT doing their jobs.

I have kids and I have a 10 year old that loves spending time on the net. She has her own login to the computer. She has bookmarks of where she is allowed to go on the net.

She has a little book that she can write down the names of sites she has heard about from friends or TV. We check the sites out, if it is something we approve of, it is added to her list of approved sites and she is allowed to go there.

She is never allowed on the computer unless someone is in the room with her and actually glancing at her screen frequently to make sure everything is ok. She is not allowed a MySpace account, she is not allowed to have her own email address, nor is she allowed to have instant messaging or go to chat rooms. My older children went through the same rules and regulations when they were young. We taught them safe surfing, we took part in their online activities and we discussed the dangers of the internet. I see no difference between this and teaching your child how to drive safely or how to protect themselves when out with friends etc. It is part of the being a parent.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by MonsterPartners

Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that a warning page would ever stop a minor from cicking YES I'm OVER 18? I mean, they are stealing thier parents credit cards, what makes people think a warning page will stop them?...

It's called a "good faith effort" & is strongly backed by the ASACP. Short of driving from house to house & patrolling what kids surf on my own, it's the best thing I can do for my business model.

[karomesis]

It's called a "good faith effort" & is strongly backed by the ASACP. Short of driving from house to house & patrolling what kids surf on my own, it's the best thing I can do for my business model.

Greenguy, If everyone in the industry performed similar acts, what is to stop them from requiring more and more and more after that? Then they might say your warning page needs to be in multiple languages like spanish as well, if concessions are made they will never stop making more demands of the industry as a whole until we are left making 5 baziliion concessions because they keep demanding more and more, Thus wasting all our time to please the conservatives and less and less time making the sales and business connections so vital to the industries continued success.

I don't mean to lecture you on the topic, because I am extremely new to the biz and I know you have been in it for 10+ years. So I guess I should ask you, in your experience in the biz, how many concessions have you seen from the adult industry to no avail? Is it true they will never be happy with what we do to help them protect their children?

I can speak as a person who a few years ago was a fundamental baptist, the most vicious form of conservatives you could possibly imagine, women are frowned upon for wearing pants|shocking| In the end, it is groups similar to these that must be appeased, and I know they will never be happy with the adult biz, they will always look for an excuse to make more demands until we are desitute. Now it is the ever so propular "protect the children" ploy, and they will milk it for all it's worth, as will the sonsofbitches politicians who to their demands for political power.

[Chop Smith]

what is so hard to understand about warning pages? It is not what you are dictated to do. It is not even about right or wrong. Well maybe it is the right thing to do but the by-product is when your ass is on the carpet, you can say "I did everything in my power to let your child know that I did not want him in my site. Now go take some parenting classes"

Originally Posted by karomesis

I can speak as a person who a few years ago was a fundamental baptist, the most vicious form of conservatives you could possibly imagine, women are frowned upon for wearing pants|shocking| In the end, it is groups similar to these that must be appeased, and I know they will never be happy with the adult biz, they will always look for an excuse to make more demands until we are desitute. Now it is the ever so propular "protect the children" ploy, and they will milk it for all it's worth, as will the sonsofbitches politicians who to their demands for political power.

Send Useless Warrior and me to lobby for you. We do tend to speak our minds. Once we call 535 politicians cocksuckers, you will all be out of business. Your religion and your political party has little to do with this. For example, my brother is an ordain baptist minister and was once the head of the Republican Party in my county. Guess what, that sucker likes sex as much as his little brother and yes he knows what I do.

"A fundamental baptist, the most vicious form of conservatives you could possibly imagine" and "sonsofbitches politicians?" This is like trash talking before a ball game and then getting your ass handed to you after the game. Do they know who says what just because you are hiding out under an alias. Hell yeah, if they don't they can hire someone like Linkster to track you down.

Tell you what. You call Greenguy a low life link list owner and them ask him to list your stuff. I contact him and ask to be listed and ask in return what I can do for him. I think I would have an edge just because I never trash talked him.

Yes, it is time for me to STFU and get productive. The baby needs shoes and you are not going to hire me as your lobbist. Therefore, I need to go find something to submit to GG.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by karomesis

...I don't mean to lecture you on the topic, because I am extremely new to the biz and I know you have been in it for 10+ years. So I guess I should ask you, in your experience in the biz, how many concessions have you seen from the adult industry to no avail? Is it true they will never be happy with what we do to help them protect their children? ....

Concessions? I honestly can't think of anything that has been put into place where legit online webmasters had to change their sites, including the new 2257, which is not yet a law.

The "good faith effort" has been a part of my business plan for as long as I can remember. I'm just a Link List & Free Site guy & both of those have warning pages. This way of making sites is not new to me & it's not like we're being told that we have to have warning pages, it's being suggested by a lot of people in the industry that it's a good idea to have them.