Metal Cash (you have to read it from bottom to top)

[Greenguy]

Bottom line is that I was fine until he mentioned galleries & that set me off. As a Link List owner, I can not fucking stand when people try to push galleries on me.

Had he looked at my referrals, he'd have seen that they all of the sales I've generated came from link-o-rama.com & they are all listed under Pay Sites on the category pages.

So because this ass basically cold called me & did no homework, I'm the ass for getting upset?

And let's not pretend that this little ICQ marketing ploy was not just a way to get personal with your affiliates. You've done this with 400 webmasters? Really? I'm betting that's most, if not all of your affiliates. I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

Captain Obvious should have given up when I said no thanks. He should have realized that he was ignorant to my needs as a webmaster when I said that I didn't do that much with galleries.

Hell, according to CaptainObvious, he should have never sent me the 2nd ICQ, since I didn't reply to the 1st one.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

hey but just a few posts ago he said he doesnt need you greenguy to make money!

I cant believe these two guys are in here defending an operation that's probably pulling in less money in a month than they could make selling lemonade on the fucking corner.

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Boogie

hey but just a few posts ago he said he doesnt need you greenguy to make money!

I cant believe these two guys are in here defending an operation that's probably pulling in less money in a month than they could make selling lemonade on the fucking corner.

Haha, yeah probably. Affiliates are everything right? Everybody knows paysites can't thrive without affiliates! ... or maybe affiliates just bring in more money than we're already making ... whatever you wanna think

LUNCH! good bye guys

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Haha, yeah probably. Affiliates are everything right? Everybody knows paysites can't thrive without affiliates! ... or maybe affiliates just bring in more money than we're already making ... whatever you wanna think

LUNCH! good bye guys

I would like to think you're not so stupid that you're trying to now say that affiliates arent important after you just said a few posts ago you individually contacted 400 of them earlier this week.

but I cant

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I would like to think you're not so stupid that you're trying to now say that affiliates arent important...

That was my read.

Well traffic is as traffic does, and we'll see how they get that traffic when the afffiliates are gone.

[docholly]

I'd hit it.

Oh wait.. wrong board.. someone must have opened the cages.

oh and no fucking fat jokes or i'll have to sit on someone!!

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I would like to think you're not so stupid that you're trying to now say that affiliates arent important after you just said a few posts ago you individually contacted 400 of them earlier this week.

but I cant

Boogie.

I have come to 2 conclusions with you.

1) You don't read posts.

2) You read but just don't understand and assume things.

NEVER did Captain say that affiliates aren't important, just that they aren't our main income source.

Don't assume things.

Affiliates are important and it's Captains job to contact them to get them making cash with the program and he's doing a damn good job.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Boogie.

I have come to 2 conclusions with you.

1) You don't read posts.

2) You read but just don't understand and assume things.

NEVER did Captain say that affiliates aren't important, just that they aren't our main income source.

Don't assume things.

Affiliates are important and it's Captains job to contact them to get them making cash with the program and he's doing a damn good job.

josh forgive me if you're friends butcherjob on the english language leaves room for interpretation and forgive me for trying to make sense of it.

you certainly are smarter than the captainobvious fellow in your employment, you should probably be doing the rep'ing and posting and not that doofus with a shitpot attitude and a lack of communication skills.

for what its worth you dont know me, if you did, you'd know I almost finished a degree in literature and am quite capable of reading and understanding most posts, especially finding subtext, as I've done with what your friend has written.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Boogie

josh forgive me if you're friends butcherjob on the english language leaves room for interpretation and forgive me for trying to make sense of it.

you certainly are smarter than the captainobvious fellow in your employment, you should probably be doing the rep'ing and posting and not that doofus with a shitpot attitude and a lack of communication skills.

for what its worth you dont know me, if you did, you'd know I almost finished a degree in literature and am quite capable of reading and understanding most posts, especially finding subtext, as I've done with what your friend has written.

That's good. I am happy for you.

Tons of people are different, this is the internet, it's hard to read people. Captain says things like he means them. Affiliates aren't everything, he is right, that doesn't mean they aren't important which is exactly what he said and I know that's exactly what he means.

Subtext on the internet is like a blind woman playing guess your cock size with your pants still on.

Emotions don't exist on the internet, impossible to read.

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Bottom line is that I was fine until he mentioned galleries & that set me off. As a Link List owner, I can not fucking stand when people try to push galleries on me.

Had he looked at my referrals, he'd have seen that they all of the sales I've generated came from link-o-rama.com & they are all listed under Pay Sites on the category pages.

So because this ass basically cold called me & did no homework, I'm the ass for getting upset?

And let's not pretend that this little ICQ marketing ploy was not just a way to get personal with your affiliates. You've done this with 400 webmasters? Really? I'm betting that's most, if not all of your affiliates. I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

Captain Obvious should have given up when I said no thanks. He should have realized that he was ignorant to my needs as a webmaster when I said that I didn't do that much with galleries.

Hell, according to CaptainObvious, he should have never sent me the 2nd ICQ, since I didn't reply to the 1st one.

Lots of webmasters did two sales with our program, more did one, we have smaller webmasters and bigger webmasters, you're in the middle.

If you think our #1-13 affiliates do 1-2 joins a day each you're straight out wrong.

I don't understand where you guys get the "cold calls" and "telemarketing" bullshit from - I'm not trying to sell you anything, I just wanted to tell you about our new sites.

I don't care if you only have 1 site, I start off with everybody giving them galleries to see where they direct me since MOST webmasters own more than 1 site - you're the ONLY person to turn it into such a big issue.

I'm done here, I have more important things to work on, like I said in the ICQ, don't list the 123 sites on greenguy, I don't give a fuck.

[fetish1]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total.

omg over 400 affiliates is what he mentions and 386+ of them have less than 2 sales in 15 out of a 16 day payout period....woohoo, hate that I am missing out on that kinda income. NOT!

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by fetish1

omg over 400 affiliates is what he mentions and 386+ of them have less than 2 sales in 15 out of a 16 day payout period....woohoo, hate that I am missing out on that kinda income. NOT!

Obviously neither of you run affiliate programs. To think that the first 10affiliates aren't doing 200+ sales a period each is being oblvious and stupid.

[fetish1]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Obviously neither of you run affiliate programs. To think that the first 10affiliates aren't doing 200+ sales a period each is being oblvious and stupid.

Hmm, obviously you haven't been around long, YES GG did run an affiliate program, and I didn't see either of us quote what we suspected the top 10 were making...did you???

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by fetish1

Hmm, obviously you haven't been around long, YES GG did run an affiliate program, and I didn't see either of us quote what we suspected the top 10 were making...did you???

"Did run...."

[fetish1]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

"Did run...."

I find it oddly amusing, you keep suggesting that people only read part or none of the facts and yet in my two line response, you quote two words and TOTALLY MISS the question that was asked... LOL Perhaps practice what you preach or don't preach!

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by fetish1

I find it oddly amusing, you keep suggesting that people only read part or none of the facts and yet in my two line response, you quote two words and TOTALLY MISS the question that was asked... LOL Perhaps practice what you preach or don't preach!

Naw, I read it.

Just you implying that affiliates aren't making money with my program isn't cool.

And like I said before it's hard to tell what people actual imply over the internet so I could be wrong with you saying that people aren't making a good income with my program and assuming that you mean everyone above him.

[sukime69]

OK, let me get this right to make sure I can read and understand.....

This started as "I want to help you" and turned into the "dont be an asshole" remark. Seems somebody missed a few lessons in Basic Customer Service 101. Anybody that worked for me that did that would be out the door immediately.

But the thing that I find the most offensive is Josh coming in and trying to back him up and justify his inexcusable behaviour. If it we me and I was the bos there, I would be coming in trying to clean up the mess that had been made, not jumping in the ring to sling punches myself.

I do run an affiliate program and realize that not only are my affiliates also my customers, they rank right up there as the most important. I just dont see how anybody could miss that. Is it just me??

[Toby]

Originally Posted by sukime69

...I just dont see how anybody could miss that. Is it just me??

Nope, not just you. I only see two people posting in this thread that have missed that.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by sukime69

OK, let me get this right to make sure I can read and understand.....

This started as "I want to help you" and turned into the "dont be an asshole" remark. Seems somebody missed a few lessons in Basic Customer Service 101. Anybody that worked for me that did that would be out the door immediately.

But the thing that I find the most offensive is Josh coming in and trying to back him up and justify his inexcusable behaviour. If it we me and I was the bos there, I would be coming in trying to clean up the mess that had been made, not jumping in the ring to sling punches myself.

I do run an affiliate program and realize that not only are my affiliates also my customers, they rank right up there as the most important. I just dont see how anybody could miss that. Is it just me??

When people insult me and my program it's offensive and it's like punching me. When someone punches me I don't sit around and do nothing.

Sorry if you don't like my practices. Best of luck with your program.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Obviously neither of you run affiliate programs...

FYI, a number of the people that have responded in this thread do indeed run affiliate programs and are just as stunned as the rest of us with the attitudes diplayed by you and your rep.

If I found out that someone representing my company had behaved in such a manner they'd now be seeking employment elsewhere.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Toby

FYI, a number of the people that have responded in this thread do indeed run affiliate programs and are just as stunned as the rest of us with the attitudes diplayed by you and your rep.

If I found out that someone representing my company had behaved in such a manner they'd now be seeking employment elsewhere.

I wasn't talking to everyone on the board, I was talking to fetish1 and GreenGuy.. READ!

It's a good thing that he doesn't work for you then.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

I wasn't talking to everyone on the board, I was talking to fetish1 and GreenGuy.. READ!

It's a good thing that he doesn't work for you then.

Oh I did read, every single word, and so have many others. You're diggin yourself a pretty big hole here. My point was that others in your position are just as appalled as I am, so your doesn't "run affiliate programs" point is meaningless.

Yes, it is good that he doesn't work for me. I can also guarantee you that none of his salary will ever be in part paid from any sales I might have sent your direction.