Bush can't have it both ways - 2257

[Tommy]

juggernaut

a tamper proof card is very possible
use some of those water marks they use on money and that holographic ink

they could also combine that with an online database that could have a photo

the photo online has to match the photo on the card

if the fruit is gonna go bad it doesn't allow you to break the law

a lot of businesses could make a lot more money by breaking the law but they don't get a pass so why should farmers

I say fuck the farmers !!!!
let them pay a decent wage and hire Americans


the same argument was made for slavery but instead of picking fruit they were picking cotton

it was BS then and its BS now

[tickler]

Didn't mean to start off an immgration debate. I was referring to this little piece of information.
"But despite President Bush's recognition that "our small business owners are not document checkers," the U.S. Department of Justice will hold some employers to account if it turns out that people they have employed have used "false papers" ie: The adult industry. "

"such as when an adult producer accepts a minor's fraudulent identification and uses that person in a sexually explicit production "

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Tommy

juggernaut

a tamper proof card is very possible
use some of those water marks they use on money and that holographic ink

they could also combine that with an online database that could have a photo

the photo online has to match the photo on the card

if the fruit is gonna go bad it doesn't allow you to break the law

a lot of businesses could make a lot more money by breaking the law but they don't get a pass so why should farmers

I say fuck the farmers !!!!
let them pay a decent wage and hire Americans


the same argument was made for slavery but instead of picking fruit they were picking cotton

it was BS then and its BS now

Tom I agree what I was getting at is we already have a tamper proof system, it's called lamination. Ever try to cut your DL open when you were younger in order to fake your age for drinking? Can't be done. They can come up with a card all they want but people who are comming here don't care about cards be it a fake SS or otherwise. The farmers and construction etc don't care either so a card is not going to do any good for anyone. It's the same thing with registering a handgun or rifle. People claim that me registering my weapons will help stop street violence when it fact all that does is allow the cops to know who in the town has what guns and when the government decides to take that right away it's easy for them to find you. You can register for a permit but that does not mean you bought a gun so this would just cut down man searching time for them. But that's still not going to stop joe gangbanger from getting a illegal gun to blow someone way.
The problem with the famers paying a good wage is most people dont want to pay $10 for a little box of strawberries. If the farmer is forced to do this along with the construction, cleaning, backroom dishwashers etc the cost gets past on to the consumer who in the end won't pay the higher prices because they are already used to paying a few bucks for items. If those items go up in price the consumer will stop buying them and the business goes under, which in the end if we want to be dramatic could end up costing the consumer anyway. Joe blow can't run his business and thus shuts down and now has to go on welfair in order to make ends meet. And we end up paying anyway.

[[BV]]

Originally Posted by Tommy

I say fuck the farmers !!!!
let them pay a decent wage and hire Americans

pffft
You won't find any. Too fucking lazy and would rather sit back and collect food stamps, wic and all the other free bullshit they get. I know first hand from many years working in the fern business in Florida. Out of thousands and thousands of fern cutters Mexicans are the only ones willing to do the work.

It's not a money issue either because these fern cutters make good money. over $100 a day and still they send their wife down to collect the foodstamps and free stuff. (and the wives are cutting fern also) I don't know how they do it.

Hey, at least they are working, not like all the other lazy no good fuckers that bleed off the welfare system. Makes me sick because I am paying for it along with all the other taxpayers.