Did Hell freeze over and I didn't notice

[RawAlex]

Democracy and communism rarely work properly because they are rarely left in their pure form. It is always bent and manipulated to get the desired results.

Commies have to deal with the idea that they have an egaltarian society with some people living in slums and others in chateaus (see Cuba, Russia), and democratic types have to accept that the idea of one man one vote is always tainted by things like "which man" and "how do we count the votes" (electoral college debate, anyone?) Neither system has been allowed to exist in it's totally pure form because it is theoretical and not practical.

Thus you end up with liberal and conservative, socialists and voodoo economists, and every stripe and color inbetween. Most people are honestly not smart enough or not willing to pay the time to really figure what is what - and they are the ones that are manipulated for each election.

Either way, the current western media has, for the most part, turned into mouthpieces and lapdogs for the government of the day. 9/11 has turned the US into a bunch of "agree with the government or you are a terrorist commie no good scum" types. It is really sad.

Alex

[karomesis]

Either way, the current western media has, for the most part, turned into mouthpieces and lapdogs for the government of the day. 9/11 has turned the US into a bunch of "agree with the government or you are a terrorist commie no good scum" types. It is really sad.

Alex

well said Alex

I feel that the internet and it's accompanying freedoms of expression are one of the last bastions of truth, in a sea of frivolity and complacency .The web does not suffer fools gladly, it's chews them up and spits them out.Which is why I support satellite based ISP's With absolute freedom, you take the good with the bad.

Neither system has been allowed to exist in it's totally pure form because it is theoretical and not practical.

I have pondered this many times Alex, and have struggled to come up with a form of govt that responds to the individual as a whole instead of a miniscule part of a mindless collective. Although, with the advent of smarter than human AI like what these guys work for http://www.singinst.org/ we may soon see an end to this discussion.

I enjoy being an atheist and a libertine , there are many who do not, I respect their freedom to choose above even my fanatical disdain for their beliefs, however absurd they may be.

The freedom of the individual should not be infringed upon unless it harms another. Just don't tell me I have to dress a certain way, that sex is evil and blowing up heads is ok, or any other blatantly hypocritical meme, cause it just won't fly.