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Old 2006-06-13, 05:04 AM   #1
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computer shuts down all the time

ackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk my computer keeps shutting down all the time, i am now in save mode and all is working, have runned several programs but cant find anything bad yet, any tips on this one?
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Old 2006-06-13, 06:05 AM   #2
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how are the temperatures in the cabinet?
It's very hot summer in denmark, and maybe it's the same in Holland?

Does it show any message before it shuts down?

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Old 2006-06-13, 06:35 AM   #3
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how are the temperatures in the cabinet?
It's very hot summer in denmark, and maybe it's the same in Holland?

Does it show any message before it shuts down?

Have you chosen the right category here on GG&J?
wahhh i ask a question and you are asking me quetions back.
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3: i saw a quick message something with unsecure active x or so before it shut down
4: i dont know i am just panicking now
in save mode no problem in normal thing, HUGE problem
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Old 2006-06-13, 10:22 AM   #4
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Before Cleo posts, "Buy a Mac"

1. Double check your power. Swap power cords around. I know this sounds silly but I was flown 2,600 miles to push a plug at the end of an AS/400.

2. Make sure your graphics card does not think it's in SLI mode unless you have 2 graphic cards.

3. If any new service patches or hardward have been installed uninstall them.

4. The "unsecure active x" doesn't sound good. Try turning off Active X controls in IE and running Mozilla for a bit.
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Old 2006-06-13, 10:57 AM   #5
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.... I know this sounds silly but I was flown 2,600 miles to push a plug at the end of an AS/400.
Didn't have to go quite that far, but, I have had a few similar cases with AS400.
- At one place the techies left a cable running across the floor. So some nice person unplugged it and rolled it up out of the way.
- Another place moved the PC that was part of a chain, and just left the 2 ends hanging.
- And another place got a little careless when stapling cables to walls.
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Old 2006-06-13, 11:09 AM   #6
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I'd also try taking a look at the fan - check if it's full of dust, if yes, blow it out with compressed air.
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Old 2006-06-13, 11:51 AM   #7
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i have check the puter, no virus no other shit, after i got shut down every time in safe mode too, i just unplugged the puter, i will check in some minutes all what is around and in the puter, i did notice alot of dust in the puter, on this moment we have already 4 days of extremely hot weather in holland (we never get that) we have temps above the F86 on this moment its F80 temp in my livingroom, so maybe the puter cant handle the heat, on this moment all is working again, but i dont expect for long, thank you all for your suggestions i will check them all
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Old 2006-06-13, 11:57 AM   #8
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This could be your problem. It's happening to a lot of people lately:

Bad Capacitors Are Everywhere
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Old 2006-06-13, 11:58 AM   #9
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i have check the puter, no virus no other shit, after i got shut down every time in safe mode too, i just unplugged the puter, i will check in some minutes all what is around and in the puter, i did notice alot of dust in the puter, on this moment we have already 4 days of extremely hot weather in holland (we never get that) we have temps above the F86 on this moment its F80 temp in my livingroom, so maybe the puter cant handle the heat, on this moment all is working again, but i dont expect for long, thank you all for your suggestions i will check them all
The dust is preventing the fan from oscillating properly and keeping it cool.

*unplug everything first* wipe off the biggest dustballs with a dry cloth - then blow compressed air on the blades & in the center where it spins.

Once you do that and if you don't have a cool enough room, you may want to place an extra fan around the computer to make sure it keeps the computer clear.
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Old 2006-06-13, 12:30 PM   #10
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This could be your problem. It's happening to a lot of people lately:

Bad Capacitors Are Everywhere
well my puter is only a year old i dont expect bad things with it inside now after a year, but dust that can be the problem and the heat
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Old 2006-06-13, 12:31 PM   #11
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The dust is preventing the fan from oscillating properly and keeping it cool.

*unplug everything first* wipe off the biggest dustballs with a dry cloth - then blow compressed air on the blades & in the center where it spins.

Once you do that and if you don't have a cool enough room, you may want to place an extra fan around the computer to make sure it keeps the computer clear.
yep i will do that, i am still on so the heat and dust must be the problem
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Old 2006-06-13, 12:43 PM   #12
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well my puter is only a year old i dont expect bad things with it inside now after a year, but dust that can be the problem and the heat
The age of your computer doesn't have anything to do with it. The point is that millions of these capicitors have been used in various products all around the world, and they're going bad every day. I'm not saying that this is your problem, I'm saying that it's a possibility, and how you can check to see.
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Old 2006-06-13, 08:24 PM   #13
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Stu, worst case scenario, if all the prior posts are inaffective in alleviating your distress, a sledghammer pounding does wonders for the spirits as well as destroys the object of your wrath.

You'll find that post destruction you are happy and in good cheer even though you just pounded the living shit out of a 2k peice of technology.
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Old 2006-06-13, 09:51 PM   #14
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Stu, worst case scenario, if all the prior posts are inaffective in alleviating your distress, a sledghammer pounding does wonders for the spirits as well as destroys the object of your wrath.

You'll find that post destruction you are happy and in good cheer even though you just pounded the living shit out of a 2k peice of technology.
Got close to that repair method late last night myself

Fortunately, with a clearer head today I was able to isolate the problem and correct it. Built this machine 3 years ago and last night was the first time its ever given me a BSOD (blue screen of death...for the non-geeks).

Stu, I feel your pain darlin...the heat issue could well be the source of your problems. While working on this machine today, I cleaned it out...was nasty in there
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Old 2006-06-13, 11:31 PM   #15
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have you done virus check? cause usually a sign of the computer keeps turning off is mostly because you have gotten a virus in your computer.
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Old 2006-06-14, 12:03 AM   #16
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Stu, worst case scenario, if all the prior posts are inaffective in alleviating your distress, a sledghammer pounding does wonders for the spirits as well as destroys the object of your wrath.

You'll find that post destruction you are happy and in good cheer even though you just pounded the living shit out of a 2k peice of technology.
Something like this?

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/hissyfit.html
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Old 2006-06-14, 02:43 AM   #17
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Old 2006-06-14, 08:56 AM   #18
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had that problem with a bad memory chip once. bad motherboard would do it too, but memory is cheaper to test lol
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Old 2006-06-14, 01:18 PM   #19
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Stu, worst case scenario, if all the prior posts are inaffective in alleviating your distress, a sledghammer pounding does wonders for the spirits as well as destroys the object of your wrath.

You'll find that post destruction you are happy and in good cheer even though you just pounded the living shit out of a 2k peice of technology.
nooo lol no hitting puters anymore, i did that many times, no more
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Old 2006-06-14, 01:28 PM   #20
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Along with removing dust - be sure the cpu fan over your processor chip is actually working. If it failed, then the system overheats and shuts down. Just remove the cover, aim a flashlight at it and see if it's spinning. While mucking about, see if your case can handle an additional case fan, no such thing as having too many.
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Old 2006-06-15, 11:22 AM   #21
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oke this morning i opened my puter myself (big risk when i do it) i saw 3 fan things in it, they where realy full with dust, i have clean them....(and dont yell at me because of this)...with the vacuum cleaner it worked , lol my puter still worked after i cleaned it inside, so me a happy camper it was no virus or spyware, it was dust, i keep forgetting puter attrack dust too, but all is working fine again, thanks for all the advice))
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oke this morning i opened my puter myself (big risk when i do it) i saw 3 fan things in it, they where realy full with dust, i have clean them....(and dont yell at me because of this)...with the vacuum cleaner it worked , lol my puter still worked after i cleaned it inside, so me a happy camper it was no virus or spyware, it was dust, i keep forgetting puter attrack dust too, but all is working fine again, thanks for all the advice))
Good for you Stu

Glad it was something so easy. Just cleaned mine out the other day...does get nasty in there pretty quickly.
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Good for you Stu

Glad it was something so easy. Just cleaned mine out the other day...does get nasty in there pretty quickly.
well because i had so many puter shit with reviewing sites, i bought all kinds of programs to preotect myself, i havent had a virus or spyware shit ofr a vey long time, so i couldnt believe i had a virus, but i also never thought about dust and heat, i leaned again a thing
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Just for for checks. If i was you I would look over your event logs under system. I have never had a system keep rebooting over dust. I have has systems with almost 1/2 inch worth of crap in them cause they were not opened for years. I'm sure some of the networking people here can tell you the dust build up in a good running server is crazy. 99% of the time like mentioned before most reboot problems can be traced back to memory or MOBO problems. Right click my computer, go to manage, and then even viewer. look over the system logs about the time you had your reboots. Should give you a better idea. If a system is overheating it should not be able to boot to safemode. If your system is running in safe mode or reguler mode it is still going to run at the same temp. All safe mode does is disable certain programs and drivers from starting up. Drivers and programs do not cause heat in a system, well not so much that it would cause it to shut down. But either way good your system is running. But check those logs you might be surpised what you find out.
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Just for for checks. If i was you I would look over your event logs under system. I have never had a system keep rebooting over dust. I have has systems with almost 1/2 inch worth of crap in them cause they were not opened for years. I'm sure some of the networking people here can tell you the dust build up in a good running server is crazy. 99% of the time like mentioned before most reboot problems can be traced back to memory or MOBO problems. Right click my computer, go to manage, and then even viewer. look over the system logs about the time you had your reboots. Should give you a better idea. If a system is overheating it should not be able to boot to safemode. If your system is running in safe mode or reguler mode it is still going to run at the same temp. All safe mode does is disable certain programs and drivers from starting up. Drivers and programs do not cause heat in a system, well not so much that it would cause it to shut down. But either way good your system is running. But check those logs you might be surpised what you find out.
ah oke i will check that today, my puter works great on this moment but the temp in the livingroom and outside is also way lower then that day my puter flipped, but i will check the logs, thanks
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