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[Halfdeck]

ecchi, at the risk of completely de-railing this thread:

how long before Google trusts my new sites enough to take serious note in any PR they pass on

Domain age isn't a factor when calculating PR. PR is a reflection of links pointing into your network. If you link from 100 PR 7 domains to a new domain, that domain will lose PR 0 as soon as Google crawls those links (in other words, in a matter of days, not months). Of course, you won't see the new PR until the next PR update, but that's irrelevant.

"Does the sandbox exist?" is a worthless debate; knowing that it exists or not won't help me get indexed any quicker. Like I said, trust seems to be the new buzzword when talking about deep crawling post BD, and domain age is a factor in sizing up trust.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Domain age isn't a factor when calculating PR. PR is a reflection of links pointing into your network. If you link from 100 PR 7 domains to a new domain, that domain will lose PR 0 as soon as Google crawls those links (in other words, in a matter of days, not months). Of course, you won't see the new PR until the next PR update, but that's irrelevant.

I think (N.B. 'think', not 'know') that Google give more relevance to links from 'established' sites than new ones. I base this theory from the fact that in my 'non adult' work I tend to release sites in batches all linked together, then link them to my main network only when their PR is 3 or above. What usually happens is that they go from PR0 to PR1 in a few months, stick at PR1 for a long time, then suddenly all jump to PR3 or PR4 about a year or so after I started them, with only links to each other.

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

"Does the sandbox exist?" is a worthless debate; knowing that it exists or not won't help me get indexed any quicker. Like I said, trust seems to be the new buzzword when talking about deep crawling post BD, and domain age is a factor in sizing up trust.

Knowing if the sandbox exists or not will not speed up listing, but knowing will make a hell of a lot of difference in how well you optimise your site once it is out of the sandbox (or once it is listed if the sandbox does not exist). If you hope to do well at SEO, it is kind of important that you make an accuratish guess.

[Halfdeck]

knowing will make a hell of a lot of difference in how well you optimise your site once it is out of the sandbox (or once it is listed if the sandbox does not exist).

Only thing that's helpful to know is how to avoid getting sandboxed and how to crawl out of it once you're stuck in there. If you knew that, you'd have no reason to care.

BTW, I didn't say there's no point in knowing the answer to that question.. I only said the question leads to a meaningless discussion.