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Old 2006-07-25, 03:01 PM   #1
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I am also the furthest thing from a spammer that you will find & I'm offended that ecchi tied those 2 things together.
Sorry I offended you.

I should also point out in case anyone who does not know G. has read my post and his reply and is putting 2 and 2 together to make 5: I have had free sites listed on his link list that are whois protected so you should not assume I am inferring anything about his site.

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I'm not a big fan of protected whois info, because that makes me believe that you have something to hide & that you're not a legitimate business.
When I have voiced this opinion privately (i.e. not on an open board) the answer most people give is along the lines of "Why don't you just give false info when registering a domain, like I do?", so by the law of averages I would say that people who don't use whois protection are more likely to be 'untrustworthy' than those who do. (And before I offend anyone else I had better point out that I do NOT mean that everyone who does not use whois protect is dishonest).

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always has a line that says something to the equivalent of, 'your page is listed at my discretion'
What this usually means is 'So don't try to be clever and get round my rules on a technicality' Also, although some have this rule, "Always" is an exaggeration.

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and most go further and say they may just not list a site if it is unattractive or they are in a bad mood.
Well, one or two say this, not most. The 'unattractive' part is a rule like any other rule, they are saying 'your sites must look good' so fair enough, that is their rule. The 'bad mood' part I have only seen a few times. Once on a site that listed everything I submitted, so presumably this was a joke, and all the other sites that said it (or something similar) sent so little traffic when they did list that I now take it to mean "I'm a newbie, don't bother to submit unless you have a lot of time on your hands"

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I can gaurentee you that my submission email address has never received any SPAM whatsoever.
Then you are either the luckiest webmaster on the planet or only submit to sites that were recommended by someone you knew.

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You know what, ecchi - fuck you. ........ Piss in your tea.
Now take a look at Preacher's, MrYum's, and Greenie's post and compare and contrast it with yours. What they are using is called 'reasoned argument'. They have not convinced me of their point, and I don't expect I have managed to convince them of mine. But at least we all tried. But a post like "fuck you......Piss in your tea" is an insult to everyone who visits this board, you are not just insulting me you are urinating in their playground as well. If you want to swear at me, feel free to PM me, I do read all PM's. It is just as effective (or ineffective) as posting on the board, but that way 'innocent parties' don't have to read it.
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Old 2006-07-25, 04:03 PM   #2
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that way 'innocent parties' don't have to read it.
careful UW you might corrupt us or something

sorry, I shouldn't get involved but I couldn't resist...I'm baaaad
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Old 2006-07-25, 04:24 PM   #3
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Now take a look at Preacher's, MrYum's, and Greenie's post and compare and contrast it with yours. What they are using is called 'reasoned argument'. They have not convinced me of their point, and I don't expect I have managed to convince them of mine. But at least we all tried. But a post like "fuck you......Piss in your tea" is an insult to everyone who visits this board, you are not just insulting me you are urinating in their playground as well. If you want to swear at me, feel free to PM me, I do read all PM's. It is just as effective (or ineffective) as posting on the board, but that way 'innocent parties' don't have to read it.
Fuck you - go piss in your tea.

You aren't new here. If you've read my posts and found my manner expression in poor taste in the past, then you could have said something then. But no - it's only wrong when I say it to you. And how anyone else on this board would take it as an insult towards them is beyond my scope of comprehension. I did, after all, say "You know what, ecchi - fuck you."

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Old 2006-07-27, 01:49 PM   #4
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And how anyone else on this board would take it as an insult towards them is beyond my scope of comprehension.
Sorry, I don't think I was clear enough about why I objected to your post, both you and a couple of other people seemed to have misunderstood what I meant:

I was NOT saying that I felt personally offended by your post, or by being told to 'piss in my tea'. You are entitled to your opinion, and I have a worse said to me. The point I was making was that just posting comments like that rather than making a point is beneath this board. I would not have objected if you had said something like "Ecchi you are (insert favourite insult here) because when you say......you do not realise that....". Just posting "You know what, ecchi - fuck you. I'm not in the mood to argue. I'm right. You're wrong. Piss in your tea." is the sort of response you see on some boards, but not usually here. The reason I said it was "an insult to everyone who visits this board" was not because they may be offended that you used these words, but because this ain't that kind of board.

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From Greenie's rules page: "27. If we just plain do not like the site (this happens when I'm in a bad mood)" I guess the green part of his refers to him being new at this whole linklist thingy.
Read my original post through again.

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By that logic, where the Hell will we get our News from now....foxnews.com Fox News Network, LLC
You are listing Fox News as a good source of news???? Please tell me you are joking!
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Old 2006-07-27, 03:18 PM   #5
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Just posting "You know what, ecchi - fuck you. I'm not in the mood to argue. I'm right. You're wrong. Piss in your tea." is the sort of response you see on some boards, but not usually here. The reason I said it was "an insult to everyone who visits this board" was not because they may be offended that you used these words, but because this ain't that kind of board.
I'm going to ask cd34 to check VBulletin for bugs. No way can you have 767 posts here and be surprised that I would respond that way.

Take note that I wasn't at all offended or insulted by:
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Well that is called Cheating. Any webmaster who does not list a site for reasons he does not state in his rules is a linkback thief.
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Anyone who actively works against whois protect, is at best encouraging spammers, and at worst a spammer himself.
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Any webmaster who submits to a LL or TGP that he believes has this rule is a fool.
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you are sending your email address to someone you know is likely to sell it.
I'm still not in the mood to argue the original point though. I'm shocked that you didn't realize that that is pretty much a general policy amongst mature link lists, but I don't give two (or even one) shit(s) whether or not you agree with it.
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Old 2006-07-27, 04:57 PM   #6
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I'm going to ask cd34 to check VBulletin for bugs. No way can you have 767 posts here and be surprised that I would respond that way.
I never said I was surprised by it, just disappointed by it.
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What this usually means is 'So don't try to be clever and get round my rules on a technicality'
See I always thought it meant that we list your sites at our discretion, I guess I must have read too much into that.


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Also, although some have this rule, "Always" is an exaggeration.
And so is "by the law of averages I would say that people who don't use whois protection are more likely to be 'untrustworthy' "

By that logic, where the Hell will we get our News from now?!?!

cnn.com
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1 CNN Center
One CNN Center
Atlanta, GA 30303

csmonitor.com
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THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE PUBLISHING SOCIETY
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Well, one or two say this, not most. The 'unattractive' part is a rule like any other rule, they are saying 'your sites must look good' so fair enough, that is their rule. The 'bad mood' part I have only seen a few times. Once on a site that listed everything I submitted, so presumably this was a joke, and all the other sites that said it (or something similar) sent so little traffic when they did list that I now take it to mean "I'm a newbie, don't bother to submit unless you have a lot of time on your hands"
From Greenie's rules page: "27. If we just plain do not like the site (this happens when I'm in a bad mood)"

I guess the green part of his refers to him being new at this whole linklist thingy.

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Then you are either the luckiest webmaster on the planet or only submit to sites that were recommended by someone you knew.
Awesome, must be why I won $125 when the Steelers won the Superbowl.

Actually when I used to submit to a ton of linklists I used to grab LL names off of the Resource page here and on occassion SecurityMan's trade script that runs on the bottom of submit pages. Unless something has drastically changed in the last year, I guess those are the only completely safe places to choose Linklists from, which is cool because I'm listed on the resource page here.

Oh, and Useless Warrior is amazingly sexy and witty. I just thought I'd add my two cents about him here.

{edit - swapped in greenie's new nickname instead of his old one}
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