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Old 2006-07-26, 04:34 PM   #1
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Why are people so surprised by this - these primary producers have been subject to these inspections for 10 years - just because the DOJ hasnt done any inspections shouldnt all of a sudden trigger any new widespread panic - damn I hate people that take advantage of peoples fears
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IMO. Since most of us here are secondary procducers, our concern should not be on inspection. However, if you are not up to snuff on 2257 and are a secondary producer you might want to take a close look at HR 4472 in which Congress is attempting to do an end run around the courts. If Bush signs 4472 into law, secondary producers are back to square one on federal record-keeping requirements.

The bottom line is if you are in this business your are going to keep 2257 records. Is it a pain in the ass but so is keeping records for IRS especially knowing that a national sale tax could destroy that agency.

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Old 2006-07-26, 05:10 PM   #2
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Is it a pain in the ass but so is keeping records for IRS especially knowing that a national sale tax could destroy that agency.
One can only hope.


until that time, there is always consular status.


XXXJay, what significance do you see this precedent setting?

Or was it a premonition to those who participate in FSC?
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Old 2006-07-26, 10:40 PM   #3
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One can only hope.


until that time, there is always consular status.


XXXJay, what significance do you see this precedent setting?

Or was it a premonition to those who participate in FSC?
Its not likely they will fuck with secondarys yet...not with the origanal version in court. It's mostly a primary's problem for the short run.
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Old 2006-07-27, 09:51 PM   #4
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XXX Jay, given this article http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=16215 which states in part
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Free Speech Coalition attorney Jeffrey Douglas, who said that the law mandates that so-called secondary producers — a group that likely includes adult webmasters — will be required to comply with 2257.

In addition to expanding liability to secondary producers, the proposed law also mandates record-keeping for films and images containing depictions of “lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person.”

According to Douglas, that means that exhibitions of mere nudity could fall under the 2257 record-keeping regime.
Does it sound like we can still just hand them a form that we are secondary producers only?
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Old 2006-07-26, 05:43 PM   #5
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If Bush signs 4472 into law, secondary producers are back to square one on federal record-keeping requirements.
Since 4472 affects more than just this industry, I seriously doubt Bush will ever sign it. It also affects both the entertainment and broadcast industries and with Fox already having stated they are opposed to it, do you really think the GOP will risk upsetting their propaganda machine? If Bush did sign it, it would immediately go to the courts so even then there would be plenty of time to prepare. To worry about it now seems pretty premature to me, but what do I know, I'm just a blogger! Oh, who also happens to work in the broadcast and entertainment industries...I'd be screwed!
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Old 2006-07-26, 07:51 PM   #6
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Since 4472 affects more than just this industry, I seriously doubt Bush will ever sign it. It also affects both the entertainment and broadcast industries and with Fox already having stated they are opposed to it, do you really think the GOP will risk upsetting their propaganda machine? If Bush did sign it, it would immediately go to the courts so even then there would be plenty of time to prepare. To worry about it now seems pretty premature to me, but what do I know, I'm just a blogger! Oh, who also happens to work in the broadcast and entertainment industries...I'd be screwed!
Exceptions have already been carved out for Hollywood. Mainstream producers get to make an appointment in advance to show their records (no surprise snap inspections) and there are no actual penalties for their non-compliance.
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Old 2006-07-26, 08:27 PM   #7
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Exceptions have already been carved out for Hollywood. Mainstream producers get to make an appointment in advance to show their records (no surprise snap inspections) and there are no actual penalties for their non-compliance.
I wouldn't be so sure thats true since, like I said, Fox has already gone public with their opposition. They wouldn't be doing that if they were not affected. Other than that, I say
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