Traffic - I need good advice on buying traffic

[Simon]

Cool...some good feedback!

UW - Thanks for jumping in. That sounds like what I'm wanting to try. No blind clicks, or 404, or skimmed or anything like that. I'm interested in surfers who click a link which send them exactly where they think they're going. Mostly I'm looking to build bookmarkers, faster, but I wouldn't mind if some of them turned into spenders too. I'll take a look at what Traffic-out offers.

Toby - I don't think I have the whole gallery paradigm nailed well enough to try sending traffic directly to one of my galleries. I'd rather feed traffic into a MLL/MGP site if we can. I sent a note to AskJolene to see if they take anything besides galleries and paysites. I'll check out Spotbrokers to see how their setup works too. Breaking even would be fine if we can pick up some bookmarkers even at the breakeven point.

Bluemoney - Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at AdultGalleria and see how their PPC system might do for us.

Babymaker - Interesting that you found the least expensive traffic did well for building bookmarkers. I took a quick look at TrafficHolder and I'll drop them a note to see if they have traffic that isn't quite so blind. But it might be interesting to test how that kind of traffic likes it when they don't find any more blind links once they get here. Maybe that does turn into bookmarkers because they don't want to forget the site that didn't send them somewhere else.

Juggernaut - That's exactly the statement I've heard many times. But I've taken to wondering about whether it's just too broad a statement to apply across the board. For instance, you mentioned that the traffic you were sending to you paysite was generating signups. If you're not getting enough signups to breakeven on the cost of the traffic, then I'd stop too. But I'd be sure I was tracking the lifetime value of the member. Hell, if I could get near breakeven on initial signups that would be excellent, since the rebills would be gravy.

I'd still like to hear more people weigh in on the "if someone is selling it, then how good can it really be?" theory. I'm still a little surprised that no traffic sellers have replied with any rebuttals to that premise.

UW Part II - I've always accepted the baseline that forced traffic isn't worth much of anything. I'm still not interested in popunder and 404 traffic, but I'm thinking that it might be worth testing how traffic from cj-type sources sticks around when they find a non-cj site with plenty of content pages to entertain them.

Okay, so far I have these sources that someone here has tried:

Traffic-Out
TrafficHolder
AskJolene
Spotbrokers
Jugg's secret source

Has anyone use chokertraffic.com? I thought I'd seen some people post that they'd used them with some success. Are they the same as chickentraffic.com?

Any other good sources for traffic?

Any sources that are definitely ones to avoid?

More feedback sought, for anyone who'd still like to chime in here.