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Old 2006-10-31, 06:48 PM   #1
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Who's the best?

Hi,

My namie is Nino and I started with my girlfriend a new webcam site with her only as a model. I bought traffic but no clients, no MONEY.

This website was a test, because I have 26 models who want to work as performers. They are my friends and they wanted to work for me. I didn't start with them because I wasn't sure about the success. So now my solution to continue in this business, is to work for an adult webcam compagny like :
Imlive.com, jasmin.vom, cam.com, flirt4free.com,etc....

with my 26 friends. Them as performers, me as a studio.

And I need absolutly your HELP, because my success depends of the help of People.
I need your experience in this business.

I want to know :
My models can ban their own country for privacy and discretion?
How much get a studio?
How much get a model?
Which compagnies are serious?
Which ones are not?

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Old 2006-10-31, 10:17 PM   #2
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My models can ban their own country for privacy and discretion?
How much get a studio?
How much get a model?
Which compagnies are serious?
Which ones are not?

Regards
1) Yes, if they can't then the site has some bad software/design. Keep in mind, these banning countries is done off a database. Most of the time the site has to either pay for the DB updates or just get the free one which is about 90% ok. But also keep in mind there are ways around it.
2) A few years back it was a 50/50 for payments. I know of some studios who would charge a fee to the hosts for cashing their checks. The fee was based on the amount. IE:10% on $100 25% on $1000.
3) Most websites are all serious. It costs a lot of money for the software, traffic, WM program etc. It's the new ones I would just test out with 1 model for a short period. But the big ones LJ, IML. You wont have much problems with. It's all about the traffic and how the model works the customer. She must treat every chatter as someone with money. Even if they are assholes. Remember something, even rich people are shitheads.
4) Don't know of any bad companies, like I said it's all about testing. I honestly have not heard of any sites not paying hosts over the last couple of years. The girls weed them out fast. But some tips are, stay away from companies that require the hosts to make way to much money before there is a payout. Most sites the hosts must make a minium of $50 to $100 before they will sent a check. And that's for every pay period.

One thing you can do to help increase your own money, is to make some freesites of the hosts and promo them. If you can get some traffic and sign ups it's a good deal, you not only get the money from the show the host performs but you also get the extra sign up $ from the websites WM program.. I will finnaly be getting some time and doing this for my wife.
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Old 2006-11-01, 11:05 AM   #3
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Contact the companies you mentioned, and ask them about their policies, as well as what you can mutually offer each other.
I'd also recommend contacting Stephanie at 2much.net
They are a great company here in Canada to work with, and very respectful of their models. I'll mention this thread to her and see if she can pop in to answer the questions you listed
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Old 2006-11-01, 01:49 PM   #4
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Hi!

Im Steph, from 2much. Thanks to Emma for having me hooking me up on this board

We might have what you are looking for if you are interested into a videochat solution software and run your own studio. I would need more information on what exactly you need to know in order to begin your project.

The first thing you should know though is that starting a livecam site that will belong to you means investment. We offer a software that you can look up on here : http://www.2much.net/whatislivecamnetwork.html

We offer you hosting, creation of your website, tech support, managing tips, fraud detection and our unique Mbase system allows you to share models with already existing sites that uses our solution.

As for blocking countries and provinces: it does help controlling a certain amount of traffic from viewing your girls locally although most webcam sites uses their content and videos to promote themselves on hundreds of affiliate sites wich can appear even in the block zones. To my knowledge, there is no sites that can assure a model to NEVER be seen in a certain area.

What we try to do with our own models is simply explain to them that if they wish to appear on the web, they have to cope with the idea that their image (still or video) can appear even if there is a very small possiblity. I have never had any problems recruiting girls for that matter.

If you want to contact me for more information it will be my pleasure to answer your questions. ICQ: 276456001
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Old 2006-11-01, 03:00 PM   #5
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Thanks

Thanks for your help.

But the best live cam streaming web site software of the world is NOTHING without advertise, marketing,etc...

SO I don't want to have my own website with my own system. I want to work as agent (or studio) which get commissions on each model I "employ" to be a performer for a big compagny.

Do you understand me?

SO I just want to know which compagny is the best? Imlive.com, flirt4free.com, livejasmin.com or another???

Thanks
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Old 2006-11-01, 03:59 PM   #6
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Thanks for your help.

But the best live cam streaming web site software of the world is NOTHING without advertise, marketing,etc...

SO I don't want to have my own website with my own system. I want to work as agent (or studio) which get commissions on each model I "employ" to be a performer for a big compagny.

Do you understand me?

SO I just want to know which compagny is the best? Imlive.com, flirt4free.com, livejasmin.com or another???

Thanks
Then thats different. I have been working with Ifriends for at least 5 years in the past. They are good but very hard to work with administration wise. At the time everybody was making money since there wasnt too many models online (about a hundred) now they are over 2000 24h/24...

Now the problem with ppl opening studios and working as an agent is that the income you will do at the end might not be too lucrative for you. If you have to split 2.00$ a minute into i.e. IFriends, a model, yourself and the studio expenses you might end up with a very irrelevent source of money.

You need equipment, programming support, space and cameras in order to operate 26 models at a time. Would you have your models working from home or exclusively into your studio?

I have heard good things about flirt4free conversions. I think what you need to check out is the number of models, the prices (is it by the minute, or do the clients buy credits/tokens?) the quality of the video stream; do they have a live free chat where models appear in order to bring costomer into pvt-vip chat? ARE the models OFTEN IN PVT MODE? Maybe signing up to their affiliate program would help you have an idea on the conversions (but you have to promote them properly in order to convert)

Just dont forget; as big as a site might be and have lots of traffic, if there is too much models online, it will make it harder for yours to take a place among the crowd and convert well.

On the other hand, I dont know how other sites and/or companies might renumerate you as an 'agent' to recruit girls, usually the cut that the girl is supposed to get is divided between you and her trough an arrangement you have agreed with your model OR you can just not pay her a cut but a hourly wage.
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Old 2006-11-01, 05:34 PM   #7
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Thanks for your help.

But the best live cam streaming web site software of the world is NOTHING without advertise, marketing,etc...

SO I don't want to have my own website with my own system. I want to work as agent (or studio) which get commissions on each model I "employ" to be a performer for a big compagny.

Do you understand me?

SO I just want to know which compagny is the best? Imlive.com, flirt4free.com, livejasmin.com or another???

Thanks
Look this is simple. If you want the two biggest traffic sites out there today. IMLive and Livejasmin. I know 1st hand as my wife works all of the sites you list here other then IMLive (she has worked for them in the past and maybe working for them again, soon). From what we see. LiveJasmin has a ton of models and a ton of traffic. A lot of the traffic is crap beggers but still to this day its the site she brings in most of her $$ with. She will average around $300 to $400 per pay period with the other sites but LJ is a consistant $2k. Have the girls work all the sites at the same time. I would not recommend purchasing your own software nor going with a company that RENTS you the software (most of the time when you role with companies that rent you can find the old sites that were using their product and they are no longer around for a reason). Before you go with any company you can search on the net about them. But you are basicly answering your own question. You know the sites already, just put the girls on them and have them start working. If you spend all your time trying to figure out who is best you will never make any money. What's best for my wife might not be best for your girls. But like I said the answer to your question, you already know. Stick with the big sites that have been around for over 4 years and you will do just fine. The traffic will be there, it's up to the girls to convert it.
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Old 2006-11-04, 01:09 PM   #8
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MARKET STUDY ADULT LIVE CAM BUSINESS

Hi,

I've already post a thread to ask help for livecam business. I have more than 20 performer who want to work in livecam show website. I want to get commission on each performer and subscribe for a live cam website as a Studio or "agent".

I ask information to the greatest site :
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*Studios are paid about $1.75/min, depends of your contry and it's only up to you how much you would pay your models. Models are usually paid not more then $1/min.

*For the momen't you can't ban a country for performer's privacy.

*Best models do more then 210 private minutes in 6-hour shift
great models do more then 160 private minutes in 6-hour shift
good models do more then 120 private minutes in 6-hour shift
average models do more then 60 private minutes in 6-hour shift
bad models are happy when they do more then 20 private minutes in 6-hour shift

*We strongly recommend (you will have the best video results) to use SONY EVI cameras because they include pan/tilt head and customers can control them remotely when they are on 1on1 show. I mean that they can move it up/down/left/right and zoom in/out.

*We also suggest to use OSPREY 210 as a capture card (www.viewcast.com).

*You will need to have internet bandwith at least 386Kbps (UPLOAD) per one broadcasting room.

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*Possible to ban country

*possible to work as a studio

*comissions?? --> waiting for the answer?

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------------------- LIVEJASMIN.com----------------------------------


*Possible to ban country

*You can be a studio and You can register the perfomer under your
Master Account. The performers can work from their home, You do not
need to rent a separate place for this business.
Unfortunately We do not offer any commissions for the performers You
bring us.

* The Performers can ask from 1.49$ to 5.50$ per minute. If they were
>> in the FREE CHAT then they'll get the 40% of the incomes. If they were
>> in the MEMBERS ONLY mode then they'll get the 33% of the incomes.

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WAITING ANSWER FROM webcams.com and cam.com

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If someone has information about this thread, please post a thread to make a nice and serious study for people who want to work as a studio for big compagnies. To get the girl is easy, to get traffic and customer...You need money!!


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Old 2006-11-04, 06:15 PM   #9
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NEWS FROM WEBCAMS.COM

You can contact me at jpbourgeois75000@yahoo.fr
msn : nino.buttez@hotmail.fr
icq : 200-914-870

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Regarding banning, I'm pretty sure jasmine and the other sites in the same
>league as webcams.com have the same sort of banning as us, where they are
>banned from chatting but only in member chat. If she is uncomfortable being
>viewed in guest chat she can disable access for that and then only members
>will be able to see her. Members from Holland will not be allowed.
>
>You can make the guest photos only body shots while the members only
>pictures can be full shots.
>
>Answering your questions one by one:
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>1. You can ban your own country (or country + postal code) from member chat
>2. You can create a studio if you'd like and set the commission for your
>performers for whatever amount you like. IT's completely up to you. We
>will either pay the payment directly to the studio or pay the models
>individually for you if you prefer. We'll pay them the exact percentage
>that you specify.
>3. The studio receives 40% of gross money earned and it is your decision
>what you want to pay your models out of that 40%
>4. Customers are charged $2.99 per minute for premium chat and can also tip
>the performer in free member chat (e.g. the model can say 'if you give me a
>$10 tip I'll do....'
>5. We use Adobe/Macromedia flash for software so there are no downloads and
>it's very easy to get started. It works with most every webcam
>6. No real need for documentation because it's pretty self explanatory
>
>When determining whether to use us or another webcam site, we can say that
>performers are very happy with the amount of money they make on our site.
>Only thing I can really suggest is to try several. It's just important that
>whichever one you try you stick with it for about 2 weeks so regular
>customers can be built up in the performers' rooms. We also recommend
>working on multiple sites simultaneously.
>
>Please let me know if you have any more questions.
>
>Regards,
>
>Webcams.com
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Old 2006-11-04, 06:23 PM   #10
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Thumbs up NEWS FROM IMLIVE.COM

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You can create up to ten Host accounts (if you want to create more, please contact us). Your Host won't see his earnings, only you will have access to the account.


You will earn 35% of the income generated from your Host's VideoChat room at ImLive .


You will earn 55% rather than 35% of your Host's income if you or your Host refer new members to ImLive, and they spend money in the VideoChat room of your Host. .

ImLive.com shall decide at its sole discretion whether a member is a new member or an existing one. In the case that ImLive.com suspects that an existing member was referred by you as a new member – you will risk termination of your account and forfeiture of all earnings as well as an additional fine of $500.


You will have full editorial control over the Host profile.


You will be paid twice per month.


You pay your Hosts as you see fit - we do not govern your payment structure to your employees.


You are responsible for your Hosts, their schedules, their conduct, and their adherence to the rules of ImLive.


You may have no more than one Agent account.
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