ATTN: Webmasters submitting to the hoes.com gay category

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Hoes declines sites if they have the incorrect category link/text in the recip?

There are a couple of places that do that. I don't sub to hoes anymore, but there are recip nazis in several places.

It doesn't make sense, knowing what we now know about the devaluing of reciprocal linking and repitition of anchor text, but it's very common to see people using search engine theories and language that are years out of date.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Bill

...I don't sub to hoes anymore...

What a strange coincidence.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Preacher

What a strange coincidence.

Hoes is excellent traffic and marc's a good guy. I'm the first person who replied to his initial post on greenies old board, annoucing the startup of hoes. I've always admired his project.

But, I don't approve of his policy on "Click Here" - and I can afford to do without his traffic, so I stopped subbing when he started that policy. It's nice being successful enough that you can say "I don't agree with your policy, so I won't sub to you because of it.". I recognize most people can't afford to do that.

That's the only reason I don't sub there anymore.

But, for search engine purposes, it doesn't make sense to only accept a site because the links point to another page on the site, especially if it is a related page. And it really doesn't make sense to demand one specific anchor text if the webmaster is willing to write unique anchor text.

Knowing what we now now about how google treats too-similar anchor text and recip links, the link list owners should be ebncouraging people to write their own anchor text, and should be happier to get a link to a non reciprocal page than to a reciprocal page.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Bill

But, for search engine purposes, it doesn't make sense to only accept a site because the links point to another page on the site, especially if it is a related page.

My writing error was bugging me, this should read:

"But, for search engine purposes, it doesn't make sense to _not_ accept a site _only_ because the links point to another page on the site, especially if it is a related page."

[mb]

Originally Posted by Bill

Hoes is excellent traffic and marc's a good guy. I'm the first person who replied to his initial post on greenies old board, annoucing the startup of hoes. I've always admired his project.

But, I don't approve of his policy on "Click Here" - and I can afford to do without his traffic, so I stopped subbing when he started that policy. It's nice being successful enough that you can say "I don't agree with your policy, so I won't sub to you because of it.". I recognize most people can't afford to do that.

That's the only reason I don't sub there anymore.

But, for search engine purposes, it doesn't make sense to only accept a site because the links point to another page on the site, especially if it is a related page. And it really doesn't make sense to demand one specific anchor text if the webmaster is willing to write unique anchor text.

Knowing what we now now about how google treats too-similar anchor text and recip links, the link list owners should be ebncouraging people to write their own anchor text, and should be happier to get a link to a non reciprocal page than to a reciprocal page.

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Thanks for the nice comment.

Care to post a link or two so I can see what we're missing? Maybe it's "close enough"

:-)

marc

[Bill]

Originally Posted by mb

Care to post a link or two so I can see what we're missing? Maybe it's "close enough" :-)

marc

Well, naturally I don't want to post my best niches, but here's a recent site in a niche that's pretty mediocre for me.

http://www.sexy-latina-girls.net/cummy-chica/

As you can see, I'm using 'click here' as agressively as I feel I reasonably can. So, I kinda hope it's not close enough. ;-}

In a lot of site designs I use it, and other gimmicks, even more agressively. I'm sure your reviewers were skipping my sites for too-agressive ads before you started the 'click here' policy.

Everybody here agrees with the basic principle of "your site, your rules". If I want to get listed with you, I should build a second version of each site that is adjusted to your rules and reviewers.

Doing that is one of those things I always think I should get around to doing, but I just haven't worked it into my daily schedule.

[mb]

Originally Posted by Bill

Well, naturally I don't want to post my best niches, but here's a recent site in a niche that's pretty mediocre for me.

http://www.sexy-latina-girls.net/cummy-chica/

As you can see, I'm using 'click here' as agressively as I feel I reasonably can. So, I kinda hope it's not close enough. ;-}

In a lot of site designs I use it, and other gimmicks, even more agressively. I'm sure your reviewers were skipping my sites for too-agressive ads before you started the 'click here' policy.

Everybody here agrees with the basic principle of "your site, your rules". If I want to get listed with you, I should build a second version of each site that is adjusted to your rules and reviewers.

Doing that is one of those things I always think I should get around to doing, but I just haven't worked it into my daily schedule.

Thanks for your kind understanding. Yes, my reviewers know not to accept free sites like this. The reason why I started this rule was because I was getting lots of comments from surfers about getting hit with popups, not getting free content from free sites, etc... It was because they couldn't find the ENTER link beneath the "click heres". Or they never made it that far down the page.

Thanks again for understanding.

marc

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by Bill

But, I don't approve of his policy on "Click Here"

What "Click Here" policy? All I see is no "Enter Here" on the index page, which is typical of most link list rules.

[Bill]

Licker4U, I don't know if it's listed in his rules.

But a bit more than a year ago marc came here and made a big post about 'click here' in sales text, and how hoes wasn't going to be accepting it any more.

I adjusted some test sites to remove 'click here' from the entry page, but reviewers rejected sites with 'click here' anywhere in the site.

It doesn't make sense to put hoes recips on a site, and lose the sales power of 'click here', when nobody else was using that rule.

Hoes already had the reputation of being the strictest LL. Some others have become more strict in the past few years, so it may make a lot more sense now to build a specialized site for the strictest linklists.