Are These New Piece Of Shit Options Now Standard In NATS?

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Not being a hater here - but yes you did bring it up

BV brought it up when mentioning he put in a script to do cascading. My post you quoted was in response to his. My apologies if my trying to provide a detailed explanation to him came off to you as me touting it as a "major feature"

I wouldn't doubt your "being a hater" has something to do with the fact that you use our competitors product. But don't worry, I don't expect you to actually have a constructive conversation with me. I expect you to just keep spitting things back at me and twisting it as you have been.

[Linkster]

Well - since I dont use any scripts from either you or anyone else - dont think Im being jaded here Im not employed by the people in my sig
And as far as being confrontational and twisting things - I just want the ability as an affiliate to see my real stats - not to have to depend on a sponsor to email me my correct stats or explain why the stats dont add up - that was the only point I think most of us were trying to make

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Well - since I dont use any scripts from either you or anyone else - dont think Im being jaded here Im not employed by the people in my sig
And as far as being confrontational and twisting things - I just want the ability as an affiliate to see my real stats - not to have to depend on a sponsor to email me my correct stats or explain why the stats dont add up - that was the only point I think most of us were trying to make

And I agreed with you and said it was a very bad problem to have and you threw it back at me twice

My apologies for assuming that since there was no ref code in your sig you were the owner of or related to the company.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

you were the owner of the company.

I wish

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I wish

Don't wish, work towards it (not that program specifically but one in general) One great thing about this biz is that anyone can achieve success

[Useless]

Boy, I wish I had something truly constructive to say about NATS, but I don't think I that I do. Is it OK for us to voice that we, as affiliates, simply don't like NATS and that we don't trust NATS - without the fear of being sued by Too Much Media? If someone did want to speak frankly to its developers, would that require the signing of a non-disclosure agreement?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

We all whisper to each other about the mysterious powers which NATS gives a sponsor; and the rumors of the possible 11-some ways an unethical sponsor could choose to screw its affiliates with its sparkling new 3rd-party toy. And many of us have seen conversions falter and fade into the abyss when a formerly solid program switches to NATS while promising us improved ratios. Woe is we.

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Boy, I wish I had something truly constructive to say about NATS, but I don't think I that I do. Is it OK for us to voice that we, as affiliates, simply don't like NATS and that we don't trust NATS - without the fear of being sued by Too Much Media? If someone did want to speak frankly to its developers, would that require the signing of a non-disclosure agreement?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

We all whisper to each other about the mysterious powers which NATS gives a sponsor; and the rumors of the possible 11-some ways an unethical sponsor could choose to screw its affiliates with its sparkling new 3rd-party toy. And many of us have seen conversions falter and fade into the abyss when a formerly solid program switches to NATS while promising us improved ratios. Woe is we.

When have we ever done anything to anyone for saying they have a problem with our products?

If you have something to say, please do so. Don't speak in riddles. This is exactly what I mean when I mention people complaining just to complain. If you have a problem with something or a suggestion let us know. If you're right, we'll work to fix the situation. Saying things with no substance doesn't help us or you.

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

When have we ever done anything to anyone for saying they have a problem with our products?

If you have something to say, please do so. Don't speak in riddles. This is exactly what I mean when I mention people complaining just to complain. If you have a problem with something or a suggestion let us know. If you're right, we'll work to fix the situation. Saying things with no substance doesn't help us or you.

To add to this. I just did a search here. You seem to have something personal against us. I don't know what it is. But I don't really care after reading all of your comments either.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

To add to this. I just did a search here. You seem to have something personal against us. I don't know what it is. But I don't really care after reading all of your comments either.

You know, John, it's the not caring that hurts.

Personal? If you consider watching one's income drop repeatedly when sponsor after sponsor decides to use your product as personal - well then, yes, maybe it is personal. I suppose one would find it really mysterious as to why one would actually earn less with cascading billing.

Just tired of the empty promises and bullshit - that's all.

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You know, John, it's the not caring that hurts.

Personal? If you consider watching one's income drop repeatedly when sponsor after sponsor decides to use your product as personal - well then, yes, maybe it is personal. I suppose one would find it really mysterious as to why one would actually earn less with cascading billing.

Just tired of the empty promises and bullshit - that's all.

So don't use the product. Like I said, I read your posts. I really have no desire to even try to work with you on it.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

So don't use the product.

I don't USE your product - your clients do. I, as an affiliate, haven't much choice in the matter. I have as of yet never seen a program ask for its affialiates' opinions on whether or not it should use NATS.

So now your sitting there all smug - just waiting to reply with "I meant don't promote our client's programs!" Well, when you've already built sites and galleries and SEOd pages promoting your clients BEFORE they switched to NATS, what are you supposed to do - just pull those pages? Get banned everywhere for yanking pages? Lose SE traffic? Yeah, okay - I'll get to work on that.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Like I said, I read your posts. I really have no desire to even try to work with you on it.

|shocking| I warned you that I didn't have anything constructive to say. It's all opinion, if you don't mind.