So..what can I do about a webmaster that copied word for word stuff from my site..

[amber438]

He took almost all the meta tags and copied word for word..
I emaild him and asked him to at least mix up the words a bit..
I am pissed to say the least..

[Surfn]

Originally posted by amber438
He took almost all the meta tags and copied word for word..
I emaild him and asked him to at least mix up the words a bit..
I am pissed to say the least..

Want the number for a knuckle dragging friend of mine?

[Fisty Palmer]

Hi Amber

Did he copy anything other than the meta tags?

You may already know this, but in the search engine world the "keyword" meta tag is almost obsolete now. The major SE's simply ignore them. The "title" tag is still very important, but the old days of sweating over the exact placement of keywords in the other meta tags are long gone.

If he hasn't stolen actual copy from your page, I wouldn't worry about it. Life is too short and the guy is just wasting his time.

On the other hand, if he's stolen more than just meta tag content, send him a cease-and-desist notice. I think you can find one at adultlaw.com, if I'm remembering the correct URL. A cease-and-desist notice, and a followup that threatens to sue someone for $250,000 in copyright infringement, will usually scare most people into agreeing to your demands. Sure, you're just bluffing him/her, but potential lawsuits can be powerful motivators.

[Bill]

I wrote a nice thorough reply but lost it to a damned "Cannot find server" error. Don't you just hate that?

Anyway, the gist of it was that it is probably not worth the trouble of doing everything you can do about it, like contacting his host and registrar and sponsors about copyright theft. And, since he is by definition a loser and an asshole already, be wary of his trying to get payback by variuous dirty tricks in response.

Send him a simple informal cease and desist email, record his whois info, copy the stolen pages to your hard file so you have proof if you want to follow it up later, and maybe publish the offense and the whois on whatever boards you frequent. Be ready to expose him if he shows his face and pulls more tricks.

[DangerDave]

but in the search engine world the "keyword" meta tag is almost obsolete now. The major SE's simply ignore them

and your proof is!???????????

DD

[Fisty Palmer]

Originally posted by DangerDave


and your proof is!???????????

DD

That info has been floating around the Internet for awhile. Many of the major SE's grew tired of attempts to spam keyword Meta tags, so they simply ignore them now. This has been verified by many of the SEO's in the business, not to mention various reports from the SE's themselves. I thought it was common knowledge.

Many still leave their meta tags in place for the smaller SEs that still use them, but Google doesn't use them at all, save for the title tag. The description tag is occasionally used for descriptive purposes in the search results (unless it uses the open directorie's description), but many agree it's no longer checked for keywords.

Now days most internet marketers optimize their pages with title tags, anchor text, page rank, and the distribution of a particular keyword throughout the body of the page.

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Fisty Palmer
That info has been floating around the Internet for awhile. Many of the major SE's grew tired of attempts to spam keyword Meta tags, so they simply ignore them now. This has been verified by many of the SEO's in the business, not to mention various reports from the SE's themselves. I thought it was common knowledge.

Many still leave their meta tags in place for the smaller SEs that still use them, but Google doesn't use them at all, save for the title tag. The description tag is occasionally used for descriptive purposes in the search results (unless it uses the open directorie's description), but many agree it's no longer checked for keywords.

Now days most internet marketers optimize their pages with title tags, anchor text, page rank, and the distribution of a particular keyword throughout the body of the page.

Your statement assumes that every web page is listed in the open directory. I can assure this is NOT the case.

[stuveltje]

its not worth worrie about this! i had a guy copy all my own made banners my text my pics(oke stealing) he did it 3 times he did with others, and the fucker is still on the net, contacted sponsors and his host, they saw the proof and still they kept him...........sooooo i thought it is not worth waisting my time, i can freak out and nag but it wont make me money and i will loose time, wich i use to build stuff.so leave it and spend your time wisely........you little porn empire!!!

[amber438]

I have hard copies of all my sites..
He did not take anything but all the meat tags, including the title word for word..

I put a lot of investigation and trial and error behind them..a month after putting them up they way they are, I was first place in goggle for specific targeted searches, and have been for a long time. I don't mind emulation, but down right copying I do mind..at least change the way the wording is a bit..

[Surfn]

Originally posted by amber438
I have hard copies of all my sites..
He did not take anything but all the meat tags, including the title word for word..

I put a lot of investigation and trial and error behind them..a month after putting them up they way they are, I was first place in goggle for specific targeted searches, and have been for a long time. I don't mind emulation, but down right copying I do mind..at least change the way the wording is a bit..

I can’t tell you how many times my sites, pages, galleries have been stolen or copied over the years (in the 1,000’s easily) because I work to get #1 word placement on the SE’s. The way I look at it is they are getting my cast off’s because I already have something newer and better ready to go

[Fisty Palmer]

Originally posted by Surfn
Your statement assumes that every web page is listed in the open directory. I can assure this is NOT the case.

I didn't say that. At least I didn't mean to imply it. Google will generally use the description provided by Open Drectory (plus some random text from your page) when it manufactures the description used for their search results. If you're not listed at Open Directory, then it uses your meta tag description. But this is meaningless in terms of page optimization since most experts now say that with the exception of the title tag, keywords are no longer harvested from meta tags.

I'm not trying to step on the toes of any time-honored optimization strategies here, but merely sharing what I've learned from my research. Of course, everyone is entitled to a different opinion, which is what makes forums like this so useful.

|tomatoe|

[Linkster]

DDave

I sure am glad people still disseminate that stuff around the internet - boy it makes it easy to get those top listings as long as people listen to rumors and "experts"

[amber438]

ok..I did have to bitch and let it out..it pissed me off..
so now I let it go and go on..

And I too disagree with the "experts"..been optimizing mainstream websites a long time..and as much as "they" say that meta tags are on the way out..well..,they aint dead yet by any means..not to say at all that keyword density, alt tags, linking, etc..are not on the way up too..

Just my 2 bitching moaning and complaining cents..

[Fisty Palmer]

Originally posted by Surfn
I can’t tell you how many times my sites, pages, galleries have been stolen or copied over the years (in the 1,000’s easily)

In the thousands??? That's outrageous! I'd be pulling my hair out if I got ripped off that many times. You must have great perseverance.

[Fisty Palmer]

Originally posted by Linkster
DDave

I sure am glad people still disseminate that stuff around the internet - boy it makes it easy to get those top listings as long as people listen to rumors and "experts"

Haha..Don't let my comments give the impression I removed my meta tags upon hearing about the latest trends. I keep everything in place...

just in case.

[The Other Steve]

Originally posted by DangerDave


and your proof is!???????????

DD

Dave you must learn to be more mellow - otherwise you will grown into a nasty shit stirrer and newbie hater like me

[digifan]

Funny,

I just peeped into the SEO-chat newsletter today and trashed it but the emphasis was on the description, meta tags and keywords...

[urb]

Even if Google ignores meta tags, I think it's still important to use them.

If Google does read 'em, then you will get an edge on sites which don't use 'em. If Google doesn't read 'em then you haven't lost anything by including them..... they may help with other engines.

As for people copying pages....... that's a temporary webmaster trick. They'll find another career quicker than they think doing that.