WTF?

[NY Jester]

I myself just think there is a fine line. And all depending on how its perceived/received is going to make the difference.

[Greenguy]

Ok - let's try something.

http://www.getporn24.com/?cat=Unifor...ge=0&type=both

On the uniform page, there's a link to an Extreme Paycheck gallery:
http://galleries.filthynurses.com/hg...ree=milfseeker

I'll hit up Extreme John & then he can post if he's ok with this company charging surfers to view his hosted galleries.

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Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Ok - let's try something.

http://www.getporn24.com/?cat=Unifor...ge=0&type=both

On the uniform page, there's a link to an Extreme Paycheck gallery:
http://galleries.filthynurses.com/hg...ree=milfseeker

I'll hit up Extreme John & then he can post if he's ok with this company charging surfers to view his hosted galleries.

Yes, please do that, i would like to get some more opinions
Im legally backed up, but still i dont want to step on anyones toes.
But please dont forget to mention to him, that he is getting targeted traffic to his galleries for free

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Originally Posted by Greenie

Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

Well actually it is, it really searches through the database, since the index is updated constantly

It's realised like a dropdown search because thats the only way to have everything properly categorised, and pretty much improves the user experience. Also its easier to see the wide range of categories we offer

[docholly]

Actually a few years ago I thought it would be a great concept for a LL owner or TGP owner to have a Portal system where the bookmarkers/surfers could pay a monthly fee (like 4.95) and subscribe to their particular 'fetish'/fetishes. Fresh new content would be delivered to their portal, depending on what they subscribed to. Running along side, could be banner ads etc for other things..like paysites, toy stores, etc. Interviews from pornstars, or live cam shows. etc.

the advantage would be a filtered search delivered to the surfer while still making money via the click throughs or joins.

I got this idea when Tommy was toying around with charging his bookmarkers a small fee. I still think in the right delivery system (MS wouldn't let me use theirs) it could be a new powerful way to get specific niches in front of the right eyes.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Fking

Also what about discusssing this normally, without hate-oriented comments? You are grown man, long enough in the biz, lets keep it professional and in a good manner?

What on Earth are you talking about? Hate-oriented? Where? Quote me!

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What on Earth are you talking about? Hate-oriented? Where? Quote me!

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

"potentially illegal conglomerated hunk o' shit"
"It's so stupid, it's almost genius"
"responded in your SPAM thread"
"same shit they could find at any large link list for free. Is your program really doing so poorly that you needed to find another way to profit off of the efforts of affiliates?"


well its not big deal but it isnt too professional as well
i have a rule, when talking on the boards, dont say anything you wouldnt say in the face of the person

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering.

Check 1. Check 2. Is this thing on?

Fking, do you truly employ a bot to spider for your listings? How does the bot know that the galleries are clean?

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Side Note: does anyone else giggle when they read that this site has a "search" option? Since when is a drop down menu of category pages a "search"?

Yeah, that's not really what I would call a search... Maybe the button should read Browse.

[Fking]

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Yeah, that's not really what I would call a search... Maybe the button should read Browse.

with "browse" it wont be innovative, hehe

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Fking

with "browse" it wont be innovative, hehe

But it would be truthful

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Fun Fact: one of the many things that ePassporte was supposed to do is something very similar to this (sorta like a token system where you bought access to individual clean gallery pages)

[Extreme John]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Ok - let's try something.

http://www.getporn24.com/?cat=Unifor...ge=0&type=both

On the uniform page, there's a link to an Extreme Paycheck gallery:
http://galleries.filthynurses.com/hg...ree=milfseeker

I'll hit up Extreme John & then he can post if he's ok with this company charging surfers to view his hosted galleries.

Thank you GG.

Ive been reading through this thread and one thing that hasnt seemed to change as I continue to read on is that feeling I got when I first read the 1st few responses. It goes back to that old saying, "If it doesnt feel right, it's probably not right."

And well, this doesnt feel right. From a sponsors stand point (and many sponsors may vary on this), I have a HUGE issue with even my preview thumbs or thumbs from my exclusive soley owned (never sold as plug ins or anything else) content being used as a lead in for the purchase of some $4.99 month charge to view galleries.

Our sales tools or meant for our affiliates to use in order to generate traffic and send that traffic to us, not for our affiliates, one of their friends or a buddy to pre-sale that possible customer in hopes they might buy to our site.

Using any of the content from any of our sites to upsell or sell any membership other than our's will result in a cease order, regardless of which way the product is trying to be pushed.

Now let me ask you a question. Since your numbers reflect that 99% of surfers dont buy memberships, answer this for me:

1) If they dont buy, what makes your stuff so special that they will buy from you? I mean buying access to a bunch of non-jerkable material doesnt really solve any issue.

2) If surfers are so sick of being jurked around and they will jump at this chance to get galleries without the jerk around... Why couldnt they just visit The Hun and so many other quality sites like GG&J, etc.

3) Assuming that 99% of the surfers dont buy or that ratio's are 1:1000 might be somewhat of a mistake on your part, where is this data coming from? What research?

4) If your so confident that your system and the results it displays are so excellent, than why dont you just lose the fee idea, go with having ad's (google does and they seem to do pretty good last time I checked) and everyone will be happy.

I have always been about creative idea's and marketing, however I think this idea balances on the fence, on one side of the fence there is this site and it's creators, on the other side of the fence is everyone else in the adult webmaster community.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Extreme John

Using any of the content from any of our sites to upsell or sell any membership other than our's will result in a cease order, regardless of which way the product is trying to be pushed.

So how do you feel about thumb TGPs sending skimmed traffic to trades or traffic brokers?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

So how do you feel about thumb TGPs sending skimmed traffic to trades or traffic brokers?

good point, thank you

[spookyx]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

So how do you feel about thumb TGPs sending skimmed traffic to trades or traffic brokers?

Thats a whole different ballgame.

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Extreme John

Thank you GG.

1) If they dont buy, what makes your stuff so special that they will buy from you? I mean buying access to a bunch of non-jerkable material doesnt really solve any issue.

2) If surfers are so sick of being jurked around and they will jump at this chance to get galleries without the jerk around... Why couldnt they just visit The Hun and so many other quality sites like GG&J, etc.

3) Assuming that 99% of the surfers dont buy or that ratio's are 1:1000 might be somewhat of a mistake on your part, where is this data coming from? What research?

4) If your so confident that your system and the results it displays are so excellent, than why dont you just lose the fee idea, go with having ad's (google does and they seem to do pretty good last time I checked) and everyone will be happy.

I have always been about creative idea's and marketing, however I think this idea balances on the fence, on one side of the fence there is this site and it's creators, on the other side of the fence is everyone else in the adult webmaster community.

1) That's answered in the first post
"Well maybe if you offer them, all the free porn on the net, neatly categorised and easy to browse and search, updated daily with thousands of fresh pics and movies. Providing them only clean galleries, no pop-ups, no wrong redirects.....they may be willing to pay few bucks per month for that convenience, to have all this handy."

2) Yeah, there are plenty of other clean sites, and there is always room for one more

3) No research, that's more like an example. I just took a common conversion ratio.
If its 0.5% or 0.1% doesnt really matter, its the point

4)We decided to try something different, ads free site providing the quality of service and sequrity of a paid site

[NY Jester]

Do me a favor and let me know how your bot identifies itself when it's spidering

Yeah that sounds like a good idea U.W..

J-

[Jel]

Proven credit card users viewing galleries hosted on the original servers of the gallery builder?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Jel

Proven credit card users viewing galleries hosted on the original servers of the gallery builder?

Originally Posted by nekrom

I reckon it's a great concept.

Credit Card verified surfers using a tool to search out and find my galleries/freesites with all my sales/marketing text & linkcodes still in place.

Spider my sites thanks.

-N

absolutelly correct, thank you



@SheepGuy

[nekrom]

I reckon it's a great concept.

Credit Card verified surfers using a tool to search out and find my galleries/freesites with all my sales/marketing text & linkcodes still in place.

Spider my sites thanks.

-N

[NY Jester]

are the top results always the same? Is it weighted? Or do the rotate out randomly?

[Fking]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

are the top results always the same? Is it weighted? Or do the rotate out randomly?

it shows the newest results on top
they are mostly sorted by date

[Jeka]

1 out of 1000 is not 0.01% but 0.1% or 0.001 without %

Furthermore, you cannot say that just because only 1 out of 1000 joins all 999 others are free loaders. Many of these 999 might have joined other paysites in the past or will join in future.

In my opinion your system is a nice idea and I wouldn't mind getting proven credit card owner traffic or even free niche targeted traffic to my galleries at all.
I don't see a problem with sponsor content neither. You don't offer the people anything different than any other tgp, mgp, et al. And sponsors had no problem with tgps with banner ads to other sponsors or dating or pills upsales on the galleries neither. Additionally you don't offer full movies / picture sets but just galleries with short 30 sec clips. Thus it's not really a problem in my opinion.

As you mentioned above you don't host the content but only sell a database with links to free public content basically.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Jeka

In my opinion your system is a nice idea and I wouldn't mind getting proven credit card owner traffic or even free niche targeted traffic to my galleries at all.
I don't see a problem with sponsor content neither. You don't offer the people anything different than any other tgp, mgp, et al. And sponsors had no problem with tgps with banner ads to other sponsors or dating or pills upsales on the galleries neither. Additionally you don't offer full movies / picture sets but just galleries with short 30 sec clips. Thus it's not really a problem in my opinion.

As long as you don't mind someone else profiting from your work/content/property without you getting a cent, I suppose it's no big deal. But for me, if someone thinks that they can charge for access to my web properties, well, they have another thing coming.

And I love how you slow thinkers bring up "proven credit card owner traffic" when they are deliberately marketing to "freeloaders". Yup, that makes sense.

[Jeka]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

As long as you don't mind someone else profiting from your work/content/property without you getting a cent, I suppose it's no big deal. But for me, if someone thinks that they can charge for access to my web properties, well, they have another thing coming.

And I love how you slow thinkers bring up "proven credit card owner traffic" when they are deliberately marketing to "freeloaders". Yup, that makes sense.

But you still get free niche traffic to your galleries and you could even make money yourself by promoting the site with 404 traffic etc.

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Jeka

But you still get free niche traffic to your galleries and you could even make money yourself by promoting the site with 404 traffic etc.

yes
btw, 404 traffic works pretty good for that
because if a surfer hits a 404 page, it means that he is looking for something which isnt there, well give him a search engine to find it