I'm As Mad As Hell, And I'm Not Going To Take This Anymore!

[Greenguy]

I tell people how to conduct their business all the time & everyone loves me!

Banning a sponsor is BIG, regardless of how big your site is. I've only done it twice: Epic Cash & Ultra Cash - and I think everyone can agree that I had VERY valid reasons for each.

I completely understand what Toby's doing. I sometimes wish there was an option to turn it off & take a lower payout like programs do with consoles.

But, this is a BIG part of the PPS business model & I'm a PPS kinda guy

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I tell people how to conduct their business all the time & everyone loves me!

Banning a sponsor is BIG, regardless of how big your site is. I've only done it twice: Epic Cash & Ultra Cash - and I think everyone can agree that I had VERY valid reasons for each.

I completely understand what Toby's doing. I sometimes wish there was an option to turn it off & take a lower payout like programs do with consoles.

But, this is a BIG part of the PPS business model & I'm a PPS kinda guy

That's because we dig the fact you have had the same haircut since 1989 ;-)

I understand what he's doing as well and truly do wish him well...I don't begrudge anyone conducting business the way they want. I also admire the fact he's arguing his point without resorting to name calling or anything like that. We could use more of that in this industry.

[ArtWilliams]

Epic Cash. Shit, I can type Epic Cash. Wasn't there a time when I couldn't type Epic Cash? I would just get **** **** or ********? Okay, I know I am bringing nothing to the thread here but I just wanted to say it.

Originally Posted by Greenie

I tell people how to conduct their business all the time & everyone loves me!

Banning a sponsor is BIG, regardless of how big your site is. I've only done it twice: Epic Cash & Ultra Cash - and I think everyone can agree that I had VERY valid reasons for each.

I completely understand what Toby's doing. I sometimes wish there was an option to turn it off & take a lower payout like programs do with consoles.

But, this is a BIG part of the PPS business model & I'm a PPS kinda guy

[plateman]

I believe that the people who dont see them when joining and find out later will become a non joiner later

I've looked at some and most are visible...

IMO if your worried about it, educate your surfers about it on your site on some pages of it, take care of your surfers and hopefully they will take care of you by keep joining your pay links

cross sales are a way of life for the PPS programs, if they hide them then it is not acceptable...

IMO it's far worse to have link trades with other sites that have those free join email sites that have aggressive popups on there tours

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I sometimes wish there was an option to turn it off & take a lower payout like programs do with consoles.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Twistys now has no-xsell link codes available for both their revshare and PPS programs, 60% vs 70% and $25 vs $30. They're in the process of adding FHG's with those same options.

BosBucks have said that they now also have a no-xsell option, and OCCash have said they will be adding one too.

It also appears that JuggCash (Brazzers et. al.) have now moved their pre-checks above the submit. Not sure if all the pre-check threads on the boards was the motivation or if perhaps a processor took them to task. Either way it's a step in the right direction, albeit a small one.

[CD Smith]

Originally Posted by Toby

Twistys now has no-xsell link codes available for both their revshare and PPS programs, 60% vs 70% and $25 vs $30. They're in the process of adding FHG's with those same options.

This is good to see happening.