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Old 2008-11-20, 10:28 AM   #1
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The problem is that, once you involve money and/or prizes, it can no longer be thought of as "fun" It's not a "for fun" pool. Pussy Cash is giving away cash, which means there should be rules.

I've been in a couple of pools on Pool Host and each had different rules. Based on that, why would I read what their admin says? I go by what you posted the week before the season started:
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...The season opener (game 1) begins on Thursday Sept. 4th. Players have right up until the kickoff of the first game each week to make their picks (Eastern Standard Time)...
And even if I did read that Pool Host post:
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If your pool includes Thursday games and you forgot to enter your picks, then CONTACT YOUR POOL ADMIN! The pool admin can enter picks for you if they choose.
It says that you can enter them if you choose. Why would anyone think that you would do that based on your posts that "ALL picks must be in before that game"?

As far as your poll, it's your contest, so you make the rules. All I'm saying is that you have 2 sets of rules posted in various places & it should have been decided & posted before the season started as to which ones were the official rules.

I understand that you're in a tough place now because of this, but you can't expect to say 2 different things & then not catch shit about it.
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Old 2008-11-20, 05:33 PM   #2
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The problem is that, once you involve money and/or prizes, it can no longer be thought of as "fun" It's not a "for fun" pool. Pussy Cash is giving away cash, which means there should be rules.
Which there are. (rules)

I do see your point though. I'm hoping you also see mine. For one, there are rules, always have been. Also policies, and one of those policies which I've had from the beginning was modelled after other webmaster pools I've participated in, that being that although it's not widely blasted around everywhere, if you miss an early games week deadline you can still get the rest of your picks in as long as you submit them to the admin before the Sunday games start, and you lose any points from the early games you missed.

That right there is what keeps the pool's integrity intact... that every pick entered was made before the start of the games, doesn't matter if it's thursday or sunday. The JBM pool doesn't blast this policy around all over either but I'm quite certain that people have contacted their admin and gotten their picks put in during early game weeks. I've seen them post about it to that effect.

As well, yes there is money being given as prizes, BUT... there is no entrance fee, something worth pointing out if the "fun" factor is to be argued. Prizes aside, one of the biggest factors of importance is that the pool be fun for people.

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And even if I did read that Pool Host post:

It says that you can enter them if you choose. Why would anyone think that you would do that based on your posts that "ALL picks must be in before that game"?
As I said I was attempting to strongly urge all players to get their picks in on time rather than become lax about it. I don't mind manually entering the picks of a few who missed the early game and wanted to get the rest of theirs in, but to do so for dozens or 40 or 50 people is another matter. Do you see where I'm coming from?

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As far as your poll, it's your contest, so you make the rules. All I'm saying is that you have 2 sets of rules posted in various places & it should have been decided & posted before the season started as to which ones were the official rules.
No, not two sets of rules. One set of rules that have always been in place. I just haven't made this one policy so openly and widely known, for the reason stated above. I am here now trying to correct any error that may have been made, thus the poll.

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I understand that you're in a tough place now because of this, but you can't expect to say 2 different things & then not catch shit about it.
To be honest GG, there has only been one other person who has raised this issue with me (other than Twiceshy, who has indicated that the matter for her is now settled). That person posted on the GFY board and was the one who suggested that people who miss the early game deadline must also forfiet their top weight as penalty for it. I agreed with that suggestion and will do it that way from now on. He seemed placated by that, so unless there are others who are for some reason remaining silent on the subject that just leaves yourself. The thing is I want everyone happy, so even if just one person is disgruntled about something I'm going to definitely listen and try to find out if anything can be done to make things right, or at least better.

Let's give that poll a week or so, and see what happens. Deal?

Again, we're not talking about a ton of people here, only a very small handful have missed early games and submitted the rest of their picks. I think last year it happened maybe two or three times. This year so far it's been maybe five. And ALL of their remaining picks were made prior to the start of the Sunday games... which is key. Remember, I'm also a player in the pool too. I don't want anyone getting unfair advantage over me or my picks either. But niether do I want to come off as some kind of hardass when someone forgets about an early game.

Please consider everything I've said as a whole before replying. And as always thank you for the input.
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