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		 I was in fact asking the question you thought I was asking -- in a way. Working on some TGP/LL scripts that I want to put out on the market as it were, and sort of figuring out what I can get away with on the framework end of things.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			CGI isn't necessarily bad, just that Catalyst using it's CGI engine is a slow bitch to start up, takes about 1 second for it to start generating output (and this is just a simple test template that doesn't do anything much), so it does sort of work for an admin interface for a TGP/LL (since it builds static files). The big problem with Catalyst though is that it needs a shitload of modules to be there for it to work. Catalyst::Runtime isn't installed on most hosts that I know of, and then you get all the things like Template::Toolkit, DBIx::Class, the Unicode/Authentication/Session/etc. plugins for Catalyst, and so on. I did my initial stuff on Catalyst 5.70 which was a lot better in that regard, 5.80 has been Moose-ified which means you get to deal with another 50 modules purely for Moose. Ahhh anyway.. ranting here... yes, question answered, thanks   Time to dig up my old hand-rolled framework I guess ![]() 
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