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Old 2005-06-25, 05:21 PM   #26
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This is one fucked up mess. How many of you feel comfortable in the hands of the FSC?
I caved to peer pressure earlier today and decided to become a member. Now I COMPLETELY regret that action. Damn, peers, couldn't you have pressured me into something good like, drugs, drink, porn...oh wait, ehem...okay.

So when I called I was prepared to pay $300...then the guy taking the info said, no I want the $100 corporate thing...so I say fine, okay...then I'm giving my info and he says, no wait, you want an individual account. Hmm, I said, okay...so back to the original amount of $300 right? WRONG...he says, $50...I go, umm, will I be covered under the FSC/DOJ agreement...to which he responds "Yes"...so I go fine...$50 it is...then at the end of the convo he goes, okay your Credit Card will be charged $50 a month WTF...so I'm signed up, he hangs up...and I'm thinking the FSC is a pack of fucking morons. I'm glad I have an ACLU membership...these guys are fucking tards.
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Old 2005-06-25, 05:28 PM   #27
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So you purchased the insurance? How did you inform them which domains are insured against a DOJ attach?
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Old 2005-06-25, 05:42 PM   #28
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So you purchased the insurance? How did you inform them which domains are insured against a DOJ attach?
They asked for one domain...when I said should I give all the domains I own, they said no that one will do...which I found to be a bit odd. Anyway, for $50 even if I'm not covered it's no biggie...I just honestly think as webmasters we need to get an organization together that will actually work...the FSC just stinks of an incompetent organization.

The scary thing in all this…they’re the ones that will be arguing the points of 2257 against the DOJ and they can’t even get their membership info correct. Can we all call the ACLU now and pressure them to get on this case? lol
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Old 2005-06-25, 05:44 PM   #29
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I am more and more convinced that these people couldn't find their ass with both hands.

They made it complicated as hell, hired a bunch of people last minute who appear to be totally uniformed, and a whole pile of people are going to pay $50 and find out that their domains aren't covered, only themselves as a webmaster or performer or something. Your company will still be wide open for a DOJ boning - all because the FSC can't seem to manage the simple stuff.

Three questions:

Do you own one or more domains?
What name(s) are they registered under?
Can I have your credit card to charge you $X?

How freaking hard is this?

I am starting to get an idea what is going on... and something smells bad in gotham city.

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Old 2005-06-25, 05:47 PM   #30
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I can only think of one word to properly describe this mess, and that would be CLUSTERFUCK!
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Old 2005-06-25, 05:53 PM   #31
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How freaking hard is this?

I am starting to get an idea what is going on... and something smells bad in gotham city.

Alex
Yep, I felt that before signing up with them and I've been really against joining them, but had a talk with someone on ICQ and then talked it over with my fiance...so, I did cave and after I got done calling with them it just reaffirmed my first impression that these guys suck and we've put our faith, industry, and 2257 in the hands of fools.
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Old 2005-06-25, 06:04 PM   #32
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Hey Blue, send an email with all your domains and your info to the email address in one of my earlier posts...that's what they actually want you to do, regardless of what the retards at the phone bank told you.
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Old 2005-06-25, 06:17 PM   #33
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Yes, there appears to be a royal mess, but based on the emails that MM and I received (and esentially they say the same thing) just let them know your domains/dbas by Monday (non-specified time limit) to be incuded in the Master List. Proper membership category, over/under payment issues will be sorted out later.

Like I said earlier, I hope they know their law better then their business administration.
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Old 2005-06-25, 06:29 PM   #34
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Like I said earlier, I hope they know their law better then their business administration.
I take a bit of solace in the fact that the lawyers aren't in charge of membership management, and the legal team includes some of the most respected adult biz lawyers out there.
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Old 2005-06-25, 07:12 PM   #35
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So Max is this what FSC wants?

execdir@freespeechcoalition.com

Dear Sir:

As a member of Free Speech Coalition, subscription number XXXXXXXXXX, I wish to inform you that dba Chop On The Lake Productions operates web sites containing sexually explicit content on the following 36 domains:

??Domain List??


Since the proposed revisions of the 2257 regulations, require record keeping for each primiary entry page including sub-domains, I am including the following 626 urls:

??URL List??

Since your membership records to the DOJ will be sealed, I assume that additional domains and urls will not be covered under your agreement with the DOJ. This in effect puts free site builders and tgp gallery submitters out of business or requires them to be in compliance with the revised regulations.

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Can anyone spell TRO?
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Old 2005-06-25, 10:09 PM   #36
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Ok it seems that many are too late anyways.



Question... if you are supposed to list every domain you have..............then what happens when you get more? Are you having to constantly update them?


Not that it matters now as I was too late even if I wanted to get involved. *LOL*
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Old 2005-06-25, 10:26 PM   #37
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I caved to peer pressure earlier today and decided to become a member. Now I COMPLETELY regret that action. Damn, peers, couldn't you have pressured me into something good like, drugs, drink, porn...oh wait, ehem...okay.

So when I called I was prepared to pay $300...then the guy taking the info said, no I want the $100 corporate thing...so I say fine, okay...then I'm giving my info and he says, no wait, you want an individual account. Hmm, I said, okay...so back to the original amount of $300 right? WRONG...he says, $50...I go, umm, will I be covered under the FSC/DOJ agreement...to which he responds "Yes"...so I go fine...$50 it is...then at the end of the convo he goes, okay your Credit Card will be charged $50 a month WTF...so I'm signed up, he hangs up...and I'm thinking the FSC is a pack of fucking morons. I'm glad I have an ACLU membership...these guys are fucking tards.
It's supposed to yearly membership. Are you sure they told you monthly? But they fail to mention the recurring part altogether. I didn't know it was recurring period, never mind monthly.
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Old 2005-06-25, 11:07 PM   #38
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Question... if you are supposed to list every domain you have..............then what happens when you get more? Are you having to constantly update them?
This list is only good until the court date in August, at which point it will become nothing more than trash. And with this immediate deadline, any additional domains won't be covered. Frankly, I'm convinced that no one is covered, just a few bucks poorer.

Giving to the FSC and expecting salvation is the same as dropping cash in the basket at church. You're money is gone and you are still going to hell.
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Old 2005-06-25, 11:17 PM   #39
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Giving to the FSC and expecting salvation is the same as dropping cash in the basket at church. You're money is gone and you are still going to hell.
I do believe we have the makings for another banner.
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Old 2005-06-26, 01:59 PM   #40
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So Max is this what FSC wants?

execdir@freespeechcoalition.com

Dear Sir:

As a member of Free Speech Coalition, subscription number XXXXXXXXXX, I wish to inform you that dba Chop On The Lake Productions operates web sites containing sexually explicit content on the following 36 domains:

??Domain List??


Since the proposed revisions of the 2257 regulations, require record keeping for each primiary entry page including sub-domains, I am including the following 626 urls:

??URL List??

Since your membership records to the DOJ will be sealed, I assume that additional domains and urls will not be covered under your agreement with the DOJ. This in effect puts free site builders and tgp gallery submitters out of business or requires them to be in compliance with the revised regulations.

Chop Smith
chop@choponthelake.com


Can anyone spell TRO?

They're asking for the root domains, abc.com, def.net, etc. If they want to inspect you for abc.com/pussy-farts/queef.html they'll look for abc.com on the list.

This is all just based on the info I have been given.
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Old 2005-06-26, 02:37 PM   #41
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We knew they were a fucked up organization from the beginning.

If anyone knows a better organization, name it now.

If you are joining to get some imaginary protection, you are a fool. The constitution is your only protection, not some sham deal.

This is about politics and power.

Join because you want to exercise your political power by aligning with the only existing group that will lobby and act legally for your benefit.

God fucking damn, americans have become such pussies.
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Old 2005-06-26, 03:45 PM   #42
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It's supposed to yearly membership. Are you sure they told you monthly? But they fail to mention the recurring part altogether. I didn't know it was recurring period, never mind monthly.
I dropped them an email...they basically said that the phone people fucked up...just to call their main office and pay the $100 a year thing...said they put my domains on the list, etc.

Only problem is, when I call them....I get a message saying to visit their website. Oi...lol, let's hope the lawyers know what they're doing.
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Old 2005-06-26, 06:50 PM   #43
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Damn flashbacks from the acacia Days is what this brings to mind Pay up or get fucked up

Im fucked anyhow so no matter to me since i only paid 50 a few weeks back
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