Attn Adult FriendFinder Reps... - Page 2

Toby · 2006-01-31, 06:09 PM

Hey AFF,

It's WAAYYYYYY past Tuesday morning and it sure looks like this guy is still an active affiliate. Was all the talk on Sunday just lip service?

DangerDave · 2006-01-31, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

Was all the talk on Sunday just lip service?

I hope it wasn't!,... because AFF could really set themselves apart from the rest if they ACTUALLY enforced their own terms of service and worked to protect their legitimate affiliates.

DD

DangerDave · 2006-01-31, 10:24 PM

Ah ok it was just lip service...

..because AFF is in bed with the fucking password hackers!

http://www.ultrapasswords.com/

Along with a pile of other so-called legit sponsors

BrainCash
CashTitans
VideosZ
NastyDollars
DeeCash
PerfectGonzo
etc

DD

Toby · 2006-01-31, 10:30 PM

Perhaps it's time for TGP and LL webmasters to start adding to our banned sponsor lists.

Halfdeck · 2006-02-01, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

I'm giving him 24 hours from Monday morning (my time) to show me a license. As a policy I don't ban accounts on an accusations without talking to the affiliate first. We have had people try to get legitamite affiliates banned before by making false accusations. There is a slim chance that he might have a license for this.

Sagi, this one is a no brainer.

1. The content on that gallery from sweet-sin.com is indisputably from danni.com. As Toby suggested, if you're not convinced, contact JJSLIM from danni.com.

2. whois for sweet-sin.com:

Registrant Name: Pupkin Vasil
Registrant Address1: 123 Futineze st
Registrant City: Malin
Registrant State/Province: ZH
Registrant Postal Code: 11600
Registrant Country: Ukraine
Registrant Country Code: UA

3. AFF account ID: p69074

If your affiliate p69074 owns sweet-sin.com the case is closed.

By the way, it's Wednesday morning.

Linkster · 2006-02-01, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Ah ok it was just lip service...

..because AFF is in bed with the fucking password hackers!

http://www.ultrapasswords.com/

Along with a pile of other so-called legit sponsors

BrainCash
CashTitans
VideosZ
NastyDollars
DeeCash
PerfectGonzo
etc

DD

DDave - thats just spoof password sites - although in this case its the worst phishers out there to be in bed with - theyve had suits brought from Amazon and Microsoft in the last 1 1/2 years and dont know whats going on lately: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....icle&ID=618657 read about the Activsoft, Inc. and Cybertania, Inc. and their owner Leonid ("Leo") Radvinsky

He owns most of the fake password sites out there that these sponsors cater to - no wonder the news media labels our industry the way it does - because half the major sponsors out there still cut deals with this guy.

DangerDave · 2006-02-01, 08:02 AM

Linkster,

Its a SPOOF site up until it's YOUR PAYSITE that is listed on there, and your server comes to a grinding halt, and all your feeds get turned off, and you lose time, money, and members.....

Then it is 100% theft/damage and bullshit, supported by so-called legitimate sponsors...

I would just like to see one of these sponsors stand up, be pro-active and support the webmasters that have supported them for so long...

Everyone is looking for legit trustworthy sponsors... it just seems that very few exist

DD

Toby · 2006-02-01, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

3. AFF account ID: p69074

He also uses AFF account ID: g250656

Linkster · 2006-02-01, 08:51 AM

DDave - didnt know he was also listing legit paysites passwords - I know he also has tons of other domains that do the same thing ranging from luckyspasswords to some other distant past names I recognize on neighboring IPs

RawAlex · 2006-02-01, 10:14 AM

Sagi, while we are here, can we handle the fusker sites too?

Alex

Toby · 2006-02-01, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF on GFY (9:53 PM yesterday)

He is removing them or going to use them to promote the sponsor that he got them from.

I guess that clears up all doubt where AFF stands on content thieves.

My TGPs will no longer be accepting galleries promoting AFF.

swedguy · 2006-02-02, 03:18 AM

While we got AFF on the line.

How about these people: http://www.imagecash.net/ ?

A list with stolen Raven Riley content: http://imagecash.net/content.php?sec...&q=raven+riley
The actual content including AFF ad: http://imagecash.net/gallery.php?gid=170100&public=yes

A list with Playboy content: http://imagecash.net/content.php?sec...arch&q=playboy
The actual content including AFF ad: http://imagecash.net/gallery.php?gid=164578&public=yes

GonZo · 2006-02-02, 04:50 AM

Interesting..same answers both here and on GFY.

Surfn · 2006-02-02, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo

Interesting..same answers both here and on GFY.

Just words, their actions or inactions speak volumes |pissed|

Toby · 2006-02-02, 07:40 AM

It would appear that someone higher up the food chain at AFF has stepped up to the plate and overruled the prior decision and have banned this guy. No official statement here or on GFY, but both of his affiliate links are now redirectng to a banned affiliate message.

http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/g250656
http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/p69074

[edit] or perhaps John D. from DanniCash finally got the email I sent before I posted here on Sunday and contacted AFF? [/edit]

RawAlex · 2006-02-02, 10:12 AM

Based on the answer I got yesterday from Lars, without a valid legal claim sent to their legal department, they are not going to just remove affiliates. I am truly disappointed by this type of answer, and I don't think I will be listing any more sites promoting them on my link sites and such.

Not really much to say past that.

Alex

Halfdeck · 2006-02-02, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

both of his affiliate links are now redirectng to a banned affiliate message.

One down

Toby · 2006-02-02, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

One down

Don't cheer too loudly yet, it may only be temporary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF on GFY

For now his account is banned until he makes changes and shows them to me.

I'll be keeping an eye on this for awhile to see if he gets reactivated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Based on the answer I got yesterday from Lars, without a valid legal claim sent to their legal department, they are not going to just remove affiliates. I am truly disappointed by this type of answer, and I don't think I will be listing any more sites promoting them on my link sites and such.

Yes, it should not take four days of public discourse. When presented with irrefutable proof of content theft the appropriate action is quite clear.

RawAlex · 2006-02-02, 02:11 PM

The feeling I get Toby is that it isn't acceptable for you or I to report the theft, because it isn't out content. Even though we can clearly see a hotlink or trimmed content or whatever, it is not ours so we have no technical legal claim.

It is apparently an acceptable business practice to ignore obvious or likely shady activity until the victim comes to and calls the police. In the mean time we can all just walk around the virtual body and act like it isn't there.

Alex

Toby · 2006-02-02, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

In the mean time we can all just walk around the virtual body and act like it isn't there.

Excellent visual, you do have a way with words.

Surfn · 2006-02-02, 02:17 PM

Effective immediately all submits with links to AFF will be deleted.

swedguy · 2006-02-02, 03:15 PM

.... and they're gone. Good to see

RawAlex · 2006-02-02, 05:06 PM

In the end what I don't get is this: AFF / CAMS could just say "no hotlinked images ever" and that would be the end of it. No need to wait for the offended party to complain, anyone could report and things would be taken care of.

It just seems to me that this is all arranged the wrong way around.

I will give AFF credit for one thing: Once they shut down the affiliate, they don't accept the traffic any more at all. That is significantly better than the "cancel but take the traffic anyway" bullshit that other companies pull.

Alex

docholly · 2006-02-02, 06:48 PM

Karmetically speaking, I'm amused. Please excuse me while i do a bit of a 'happy dance'

DangerDave · 2006-02-03, 08:58 AM

NEXT!

http://fusker.wegotcandy.com/index.php

"JohnWebcams.com" dropped his signature on every thread he could yesterday... and guess what - webcams.com supports those lovely thieves at Fusker!

Lets see how quick his sig appears in this thread?

DD

2006-01-31, 06:09 PM	#26
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Hey AFF, It's WAAYYYYYY past Tuesday morning and it sure looks like this guy is still an active affiliate. Was all the talk on Sunday just lip service? __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-01-31, 10:24 PM	#28
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Ah ok it was just lip service... ..because AFF is in bed with the fucking password hackers! http://www.ultrapasswords.com/ Along with a pile of other so-called legit sponsors BrainCash CashTitans VideosZ NastyDollars DeeCash PerfectGonzo etc DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2006-01-31, 10:30 PM	#29
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Perhaps it's time for TGP and LL webmasters to start adding to our banned sponsor lists. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-02-01, 08:02 AM	#32
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Linkster, Its a SPOOF site up until it's YOUR PAYSITE that is listed on there, and your server comes to a grinding halt, and all your feeds get turned off, and you lose time, money, and members..... Then it is 100% theft/damage and bullshit, supported by so-called legitimate sponsors... I would just like to see one of these sponsors stand up, be pro-active and support the webmasters that have supported them for so long... Everyone is looking for legit trustworthy sponsors... it just seems that very few exist DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2006-02-01, 08:51 AM	#34
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	DDave - didnt know he was also listing legit paysites passwords - I know he also has tons of other domains that do the same thing ranging from luckyspasswords to some other distant past names I recognize on neighboring IPs __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-02-01, 10:14 AM	#35
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Sagi, while we are here, can we handle the fusker sites too? Alex

2006-02-02, 03:18 AM	#37
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	While we got AFF on the line. How about these people: http://www.imagecash.net/ ? A list with stolen Raven Riley content: http://imagecash.net/content.php?sec...&q=raven+riley The actual content including AFF ad: http://imagecash.net/gallery.php?gid=170100&public=yes A list with Playboy content: http://imagecash.net/content.php?sec...arch&q=playboy The actual content including AFF ad: http://imagecash.net/gallery.php?gid=164578&public=yes Last edited by swedguy; 2006-02-02 at 03:22 AM..

2006-02-02, 04:50 AM	#38
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	Interesting..same answers both here and on GFY.

2006-02-02, 07:40 AM	#40
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	It would appear that someone higher up the food chain at AFF has stepped up to the plate and overruled the prior decision and have banned this guy. No official statement here or on GFY, but both of his affiliate links are now redirectng to a banned affiliate message. http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/g250656 http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/p69074 [edit] or perhaps John D. from DanniCash finally got the email I sent before I posted here on Sunday and contacted AFF? [/edit] __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens Last edited by Toby; 2006-02-02 at 07:47 AM..

2006-02-02, 10:12 AM	#41
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Based on the answer I got yesterday from Lars, without a valid legal claim sent to their legal department, they are not going to just remove affiliates. I am truly disappointed by this type of answer, and I don't think I will be listing any more sites promoting them on my link sites and such. Not really much to say past that. Alex

2006-02-02, 02:11 PM	#44
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	The feeling I get Toby is that it isn't acceptable for you or I to report the theft, because it isn't out content. Even though we can clearly see a hotlink or trimmed content or whatever, it is not ours so we have no technical legal claim. It is apparently an acceptable business practice to ignore obvious or likely shady activity until the victim comes to and calls the police. In the mean time we can all just walk around the virtual body and act like it isn't there. Alex

2006-02-02, 02:17 PM	#46
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Effective immediately all submits with links to AFF will be deleted. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-02-02, 03:15 PM	#47
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	.... and they're gone. Good to see

2006-02-02, 05:06 PM	#48
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	In the end what I don't get is this: AFF / CAMS could just say "no hotlinked images ever" and that would be the end of it. No need to wait for the offended party to complain, anyone could report and things would be taken care of. It just seems to me that this is all arranged the wrong way around. I will give AFF credit for one thing: Once they shut down the affiliate, they don't accept the traffic any more at all. That is significantly better than the "cancel but take the traffic anyway" bullshit that other companies pull. Alex

2006-02-02, 06:48 PM	#49
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	Karmetically speaking, I'm amused. Please excuse me while i do a bit of a 'happy dance' __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2006-02-03, 08:58 AM	#50
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	NEXT! http://fusker.wegotcandy.com/index.php "JohnWebcams.com" dropped his signature on every thread he could yesterday... and guess what - webcams.com supports those lovely thieves at Fusker! Lets see how quick his sig appears in this thread? DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

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