need tips and pointers

[StuartD]

Originally posted by DangerDave
StuartD,

... the point of that was??? to add another off-topic post to the thread??

Nowhere! did Ernie ask for sponsors, he asked for advice... and unless things have changed wildly in the last week.. dropping a list of sponsors on someone is not "advice".

DD

As far as I know, I could tell him not to piss in the the wind and it's still advice.

Advice is in the eye of the beholder bud. And if you can look at a list of 88 sponsors and not see any help, then you close your eyes to great potential.. because a person who makes opportunity for themself is one who sees great potential in everything set in their path.

You want to know what people do when someone asks for advice? They tell them to do what they're doing. "go with this sponsor because they've always worked for me." or "buy traffic and only from these guys because it worked for me" or "do what I did with this script and make trades" and so on and so forth.

Every piece of advice anyone has ever received on any message board can be considered spam.

If you want to be a hater, and want to see conspiracy in every post you see, then have at it. Be my guest. I hope it serves you well. I couldn't use the stress myself.

I prefer to help out where I can, and that means providing people with choices. Lots of choices. Unbiased choices not based on likes, dislikes, past experiences or by people who tell me what I should or shouldn't post.

It's not intended for you... and I couldn't care less if you like, don't like, use it, don't use it or if you feel the need to attack myself or anyone else simply because there's a big ass damned list of sponsors to use at everyone's disposal.

Ernie wants advice... but he's not retarded. He doesn't need you insinuating that he won't be able to put that to use. And neither do I.

Have a nice day DangerDave. Hope you can find something to smile about somewhere along the way.

[DangerDave]

Talk about reading bewtween the lines???

He doesn't need you insinuating that he won't be able to put that to use

Where did that come from??

if you feel the need to attack myself

Attack?? where?

If you want to be a hater

I am not a 'hater', I am a 'Nazi', but that is old news.

there's a big ass damned list of sponsors to use at everyone's disposal

Heres a bigger one! http://www.greenguysboard.com/resour...ors/index.html
which happened to be here before you posted. That sort of makes your post superfluous.

DD

[StuartD]

Originally posted by DangerDave
Talk about reading bewtween the lines???

Where did that come from??

Attack?? where?

I am not a 'hater', I am a 'Nazi', but that is old news.

Heres a bigger one! http://www.greenguysboard.com/resour...ors/index.html
which happened to be here before you posted. That sort of makes your post superfluous.

DD

Really, I see 34 sponsors in there in the pornstar niche. infact, none of those niches have as many sponsors as the niches on sponsorslist. Superfluous huh?

And yes, just because you jumped the gun and got called on it, doesn't mean that you can just play it off now like you didn't really mean it. As I said, this thread has been amusing.

[MrMaryLou]

Here we go |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight

[StuartD]

nice, like to see that you're so willing to go out of your way to help people out around here.

So let's get this straight.. I post a list of 88 sponsors, no referal codes, no link to the site they came from, not even a sig... and you remove it to give a resource that has less sponsors, but of course, has all of your own referal codes instead.

I'm glad to see that chivalry isn't dead after all. By the way, how much have you all gone out of your way to advise young Ernie anyway? Must have been in private messages huh?

[hershie]

Originally posted by StuartD
nice, like to see that you're so willing to go out of your way to help people out around here.

So let's get this straight.. I post a list of 88 sponsors, no referal codes, no link to the site they came from, not even a sig... and you remove it to give a resource that has less sponsors, but of course, has all of your own referal codes instead.

I'm glad to see that chivalry isn't dead after all. By the way, how much have you all gone out of your way to advise young Ernie anyway? Must have been in private messages huh?

I guess you went against the "group think" around here. How dare you post something helpful when it doesn't comply with their agenda. The USSR at its height had less censorship.

[hershie]

They didn't just remove my link StuartD, a mod even went as far as mis-quoting the original poster to make me look like a spammer. I never even got an apology for that so don't hold your breath for a rationale for the edit they did to you.

[StuartD]

it's simple, capitalism.... remove everything and replace it with your own to increase self worth, or at least, perception there of.

It's ok, it's to be expected, it's business. I don't mind... Microsoft does it, except they actually have resources to take over the competition and not just to limit what they say on a message board.

I suspect this thread will be closed or edited even more by the time I wake up.

I couldn't care less... no skin off my back. But I feel for poor Ernie. So far the only advice he's learned is to not try to help anyone else with anything other than GG&J links, resources or products.

Go forth young Ernie and use what you have learned, for I'm sure it will take you far and make your future a prosperous one.

[Surfn]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
Here we go |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight |goodnight

So it would seem MML. I never understood why spammers, when exposed, turn into lamers that whine on and on...

[hershie]

Originally posted by Surfn
So it would seem MML. I never understood why spammers, when exposed, turn into lamers that whine on and on...

I'll accept the label of spammer as you want so badly to be able to pin on me as exhibited by your antics of having to create facts by mis-quoting others in a rush to create facts that aren't there so you can get on your high-horse and call me names, if you'll accept that some people actually care enough to defend themselves from accusations from self-important board mod's thumping their self-righteous chests calling people lamers. Or in your simpleton mind, was I just supposed to bend over and take it because you are the one administiring it.

[Mental Ernie AKA Hotlinker]

Well I'm still new here so I don't know what you guys consider spam here, but the in other forums I post on that handle about adult stuff it was always allowed to give your referal code along with the non-ref link when someone asks for affiliate programs. It was considered as scratching each others back, like 'you did the trouble for getting what I wanted, now I'll sign up under you'.
So I don't mind signing up under hershie or whoever (unless ppl are not allowed to post any other referal links except green guy and jim's, don't know the policy of this board), as long as I get the stuff I need I'm happy.
So in conclusion: thanks to all that replied in here for the help, and sorry if I caused some sort of flamewar in here.

[DangerDave]

Ernie,

Let me point out this is in no way "caused" by you.. I hope you got your answers and some help in the other threads!

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..and as for you two..

StuartD/Hershie, grow up and get with the programme.. this board is not a fuckin democracy, you dont have rights here, you dont say what happens and what doesn't... and you don't say what's right and whats wrong..

This board is owned and run by Greenguy and Jim, with the assistance of the moderators - which include.. myself,Mr Mary Lou, and Surfn.

So...

Fact #1 - If "we" say you cant post sponsor links with ref codes.. - thats it! - You CAN'T!

Fact #2 - If "we" say you are spamming and off topic with your replies... - You ARE!

Fact #3 - If we feel we need to edit your posts we will.

Fact #4 - We NEVER go looking for fights... we follow guidelines and the responsibilities we have.

These things do not require justification, nor are they open for discussion... they just ARE.

Live with it and move on



DD

[Cleo]

Originally posted by DangerDave

This board is owned and run by Greenguy and Jim, with the assistance of the moderators - which include.. myself,Mr Mary Lou, and Surfn.

Don't forget the token female of the group. Actually I'm more of the family pet, one that has never been house broken. |confused|



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[Jim]

Welcome to GreenguyandJim, Mental Ernie

If anyone needs a refresher of what the boards rules are, and what they agreed to when they signed up, look here.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/rules.html

I think we have everything spelled out.

[Greenguy]

I have actually been sitting back & laughing about this for the last week

Mental Ernie - as soon as I post this, I'm going to start another thread with your name in the subject so that we can get your questions off of this thread & into a place where we can chat a bit I do apologize for not participating in this thread sooner, but the ball was already rolling when I got to it on Tuesday

hershie - I said it before & I'll say it again - I feel that Surfn was correct in his replies to your posts. Mental Ernie stated:
"I dunno what I'm doing wrong, bad traffic or sponsors, bad gallery building, I have no clue."
You replied with:
"If you are looking for new sponsors with PornStar sites..."
Problem #1 - Where do you see Mental Ernie asking for a list of Pornstar Sponsors?
Problem #2 - Even if he was asking for a list, do you really think it's ethical to promote your resource site over ours while you are on our board?
That is where you were wrong & that is why Surfn posted what he did.

StuartD - Your post with all the sponsors (with or without referral codes) was also OFF TOPIC (see Problem #1 & #2 above)
You seem to be looking for a pissing match & I'm up for it if you are

We are not that strict around here, but it is our board & we do have the final say so. I'm not sure if either of you have ever run a board that gets a decent amount of posts, but I have for the last 5 years. I ran the Condom/Netpond Newbie board for a few years. I ran my board on Netsurprise for a few years. We've been open here for over 10 months. I know what I want on a board - I know what I want from a board - and dare I say, from the amount of posts & members here on the board, I know what other webmasters want from a board. We do our best to provide this for our members.

Every now & then, someone comes by & posts off topic - hell, I stopped counting how many time on the TGP board someone posted asking for submission & some asshole sponsor came by & posted that they have hosted galleries.

Keep things on topic & no one will bother you at all.

Get off topic & you'll be labeled a spammer.

[urb]

hershie,

Your first post in this thread was a drive-by spam. There's no other description for it.

I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

And as for StuartD talking about capitalism.... what the fuck has this got to do with capitalism?

There's no conspiracy here... just moderators trying to contain parasites.

[hershie]

I specifically mentioned "pornstars" in my post, as Ernie's first tour, before he changed it, must have had a heavier emphasis on pornstars when I went to look at it before I replied to him.

That said, I can see that my initial post could be considered drive-by spam. I apologise to the mods and board if I was breaking any T&C. I respect whatever actions you feel are needed to run your establishment.

In Vegas, I came up to your hospitality suite as I wanted to introduce myself and get to know some of the people here in person. I only have one reputation to live by, and I guess the way I felt treated in this thread must have caused a bad reaction. In my 2+ yrs. in the business and my thousands of posts on boards and hundreds of my clients I have had dealings with, this was the very first time I ever engaged in such heated argument. I just don't think things were handled well on either side obviously. I look forward to showing you that I have a bit more substance then a few of the labels being tossed my way here.

[Greenguy]

Appology accepted & I'm sorry if the board mods came off a little harsh in your eyes.

Now let's put this all behind us & do some business