Freesites - New thought for me at least!

[Sodo]

JustRobert,

I was not talking about those kind of blind links, I was more talking about links not mentioning that it leads to something you have to pay for, that is not blind linking especially not if it's connected to a banner. A blind link is more a link on the last gallery page saying "For More Extremely Fat Girls - Click here" and then leading to a paysite.

kind regards
Sodo

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by Sodo

A blind link is more a link on the last gallery page saying "For More Extremely Fat Girls - Click here" and then leading to a paysite.

That will also get you rejected at most of the big LL's as well.

Some people can entice and sell a surfer in a sentence or two, others need 4 pages. Neither is right or wrong because some surfers are easy to sell to, some are not and some will never buy. No one method works on ALL surfers in every niche. Thats why experimenting to see what works best for you, in the niche you are working, is the only way to go. Mix it up and find your happy medium

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

That will also get you rejected at most of the big LL's as well.

Really? I have'nt done much free site submitting in the past couple of years, but my experience was that a single link like that for exit traffic always used to be allowed, as long as it did really lead to a relevant sponsor link and not to some sort of trash.

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by lassiter

Really?

I apologize, just checked with the best reviewer I know and I am mistaken.

btw Sodo, in 15 minutes (3pm est) OTB will start and today's topic is about selling. You may want to listen in for ideas.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

I apologize, just checked with the best reviewer I know and I am mistaken.

no your are not making a mistake, there are enough linksite owners who will reject you if you use a text link like you mentioned, alot of linksite owners dont like the "check or click here for more bla bla" if the paysite name isnt mentioned in the text link.

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

I apologize, just checked with the best reviewer I know and I am mistaken.

No apologies needed. I know submission standards are getting tighter, so it wouldn't have surprised me much.

[Beaver Bob]

I'm going to try a little bit of negative advance on my next freesite and in a couple blog posts, thanks for the tip Simon.

[caringneo]

Sodo,
I am not very active in freesite game now. But when I was a regular freesite submitter I used to get most of my sign-ups from the index/warning page. During those days LinkLists ruled the search engine results for almost all major keywords and were getting tons of traffic from Google. Many of those surfers who come from Google have no idea about the structure of a freesite. They click a link on the LinkList and expect to see porn. When they hit a Sponsor Link on your warning page and reach at the paysite they are more likely to get sold. On the other hand bookmark surfers know where to find the free porn and they will ignore all your sponsor links and hit the Enter link and go to gallery pages. Now let me give you couple of tips as a past freesite submitter.

You need different sales approach on index page and on gallery pages. On index/warning page, you need place a custom banner (you can also choose a pre-made sponsor banner if they are good) or place some teaser pictures (some one already mentioned it) along with good sales text. The idea is to grab the fresh search engine traffic and lead them to sponsor site.
If they hit your Enter link, they probably know where to find freeporn. So on gallery pages you tease and warm them up with your pictures/videos and sell them. Build the gallery like how you will build them for a TGP/MGP. You know how hard it is to convert to those freeloaders from TGP. Link List traffic will convert better.

If you are using two different series of pics/videos on the 2 galleries, then place best one on the first gallery. If the surfer hit your second gallery page then most likely he is not going to pay for porn. So on the second gallery page you must have a prominent link which will take the surfer to your hub where you can show him more of your freesites. So you got another chance of selling him.

Always use one main sponsor on your freesite. Place the secondary sponsor ad on your main page so that if the surfer hit a back link after viewing the second gallery and look around for more galleries on your "main page" you can show him a different paysite on the same niche which he might be interested.

-Neo

PS: All the above tips are from my experience and are not hard and fast rules. Other might have different opinions and thoughts.

[Sodo]

Thanks for the the info Maj. Stress and everyone else - I have started my new strategy today - 3 weeks from now I will hopefully see a good result. :o)

Kind regards
Sodo

[Sodo]

Hi All,

I believe I can post my results now, Unfortunately I will be kinda comparing bananas to potatoes or oranges or orangutangs!

I changed to a strategy that did work 5 years or so back.

The only strategy change was to make it absolutely clear that the surfer went to a paysite, this reduced click throughs dramatically, which I expected, but unfortunately it did not generate a single signup. I made about 10 sites using this strategy, here's a couple of them to give you an idea of how I tried to make it absolutely clear that they were going to a paysite:

http://www.maturewetandhorny.com/fin...ngmaturewomen/
http://www.timeforcunt.com/cuntlickers/

The reason I'm saying that I am comparing bananas to oranges is that I used a different sponsor this time around.

They could still produce signups and catch up, but right now it just does not seem to work anymore and I am a bit disappointed that this sponsor has not generated a signup yet, my total stats for them(not only using the new strategy) is: 0:2748

Time to think of a new way for me, thankfully I get a few signups here and there with another couple of sponsors.

Kind regards
Sodo