My personal thoughts on 2257 - Page 4

Jim · 2005-06-10, 08:34 AM

Oh yeah
Fuck these fear mongers...Get a fucking life and figure out a different way to make money. You remind me of a holy man asking for donations to go to heaven.

Jim · 2005-06-10, 08:42 AM

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Special "Ed" · 2005-06-10, 09:10 AM

I agree Jim...its nice to see someone bringing some relief to all this bullshit.

mrMagoo · 2005-06-10, 01:54 PM

Well said Jim and thanks for saying what needs to be said

Jim · 2005-06-10, 05:41 PM

And as I said a million times...Some of us have been through much worse than this. Maybe when everyone sees this is just bullshit, people I thought would never get paranoid will stop being paranoid.

I hope so at least.

Jim · 2005-06-10, 08:17 PM

I'm sure it is out there but could someone post a link to a mainstream news site that talks about 2257. Nothing old...something current. Like I said, I'm sure it's there but I can't anything. Probably just my poor searching abilities.

Greenguy · 2005-06-10, 10:20 PM

The problem with that is that the term "2257" is only one that we as porn webmasters use - if you look at the mainstream articles on that dipshit that got sentanced last week, they just stated that he violated a Federal Law.

I'm sure every Federal Law has a number, but how often do you see it in the newspaper?

airdick · 2005-06-10, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

The problem with that is that the term "2257" is only one that we as porn webmasters use - if you look at the mainstream articles on that dipshit that got sentanced last week, they just stated that he violated a Federal Law.

I'm sure every Federal Law has a number, but how often do you see it in the newspaper?

That guy wasn't originally charged with a 2257 violation anyhow, he worked out a deal to plead guilty to a 2257 charge. From what little I could find about the story, I'm not even sure he ever actually published any of the photos he took.

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=229352

madleinx · 2005-06-10, 11:10 PM

Jim, you are the man!

I wonder what DOJ would do if the entire online adult industry simply refused to comply

I wish I had the money to take on this fight....

Here's the link to CNN's coverage of the signing of the regulations:

New rules to crack down on child pornography

What a crock.....

Greenguy · 2005-06-10, 11:07 PM

I didn't see that article by AVN - glads they posted the truth on that

But back the the current topic of this thread - here's the articles published by the mainstream media:
http://www.uticaod.com/archive/2005/...ews/29758.html
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...gion-apnewyork

Quote:

...Federal law requires photographers to verify their models' ages through identification documents and keep records. ...

"2257" was not mentioned, but we all know that's the law they are referring to.

BTW - "1182" is the law for Inadmissible aliens

Mavic · 2005-06-11, 01:47 AM

US Gov is fucking with everything right now, I'm close to giving up broadband. Tring to cut out porn and p2p sharing, what else is broadband for? Might as well revert back to 300 bps and Compuserve.

troy · 2005-06-11, 06:31 AM

Thanks Jim Finnaly someone talking some sence in this whole bullshit.

Please Stu relax to what sponsors are you reffering?

Can't we all focus on the fact that the conversions are way down and what is cousing this

stuveltje · 2005-06-11, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy

Thanks Jim Finnaly someone talking some sence in this whole bullshit.

Please Stu relax to what sponsors are you reffering?

Can't we all focus on the fact that the conversions are way down and what is cousing this

lets see i got an email from squirtingcarly.com (i use them )saying:
Effective June 23, 2005 Affiliates will no longer be able to use SEXUALLY EXPLICIT content of Carly to Promote her site. If you have any images of Carly that are Sexually Explicit, they must be removed. This decision is set for 100% of our affiliates, no matter where you are located. SEXUALLY EXPLICIT means, the showing of Pink or pubic area, and actual Sexual Acts. If you have a special project planned, contact me about hosting it for you. I apologize for the inconvenience, the new regulaltions are forcing all of us to make changes. Thank you, Carly.
--------------------
Now since i have sites and galleries around from her with her sexual content i need to rmove those.

Then i got ATK cash email:

If you are hosting any ATKINGDOM content (including banners) that is hardcore in nature, we respectfully ask that you remove this content immediately. While in itself, we would consider hardcore promotional materials from our site to be a violation of our TOS and subject to closure of your account, the new 2257 regulations mean the penalties for noncompliant US webmasters are MUCH worse than just having your account terminated.

Then extreme paychecks is dropping some paysites , well i promoot soe of those dropped paysites with their content, so i need to remove that too.
and i expect more emails from sponsors about it.

stuveltje · 2005-06-11, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje

lets see i got an email from squirtingcarly.com (i use them )saying:
Effective June 23, 2005 Affiliates will no longer be able to use SEXUALLY EXPLICIT content of Carly to Promote her site. If you have any images of Carly that are Sexually Explicit, they must be removed. This decision is set for 100% of our affiliates, no matter where you are located. SEXUALLY EXPLICIT means, the showing of Pink or pubic area, and actual Sexual Acts. If you have a special project planned, contact me about hosting it for you. I apologize for the inconvenience, the new regulaltions are forcing all of us to make changes. Thank you, Carly.
--------------------
Now since i have sites and galleries around from her with her sexual content i need to rmove those.

Then i got ATK cash email:

If you are hosting any ATKINGDOM content (including banners) that is hardcore in nature, we respectfully ask that you remove this content immediately. While in itself, we would consider hardcore promotional materials from our site to be a violation of our TOS and subject to closure of your account, the new 2257 regulations mean the penalties for noncompliant US webmasters are MUCH worse than just having your account terminated.

Then extreme paychecks is dropping some paysites , well i promoot soe of those dropped paysites with their content, so i need to remove that too.
and i expect more emails from sponsors about it.

so Troy after reading those emails, still say fuck the 2257? yep i can say that , so i will loose my accounds i am not gonna fuck up 4 years of hard work...i realy dont see a point in that, do i agree with the 2257 hell not, and i am not an US person, yep i have US host (they cant be blamed for the things i do) but the sponsors are trying to protect themselfs and do follow the rules, and since those sponsors send me an paycheck...i have to follow their rules.Easy pick!

Jim · 2005-06-11, 06:37 AM

Remind me Greenie in July when I see you that I owe you 1 ass kicking

Jim · 2005-06-11, 06:39 AM

I just wonder why it is only us talking about 2257 and no mainstream media...None. It is called 2257, not some federal law. Find me some mainstream media that is talking about "2257".

And if I need to, I will ask Sparky to help me with the pictures.

Greenguy · 2005-06-11, 07:56 AM

madleinx posted a link to CNN - how much more mainstream can you get?

I will agree that it's not getting the coverage that they give a brain dead lady in Florida or a kid touching pop star, but then again, this stuff is rarely talked about in polite conversation outside of our little world

BTW - I did want to say one thing to everyone - Jim has his opinions & I have mine & a lot of time we disagree - this one just happens to be in public & that's fine with me, because that's what this board is for - discussion.

I don't advise anyone to take Jim's or my opinion on this subject to heart - neither of us our lawyers.

Be With You

Jim · 2005-06-11, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

madleinx posted a link to CNN - how much more mainstream can you get?

I will agree that it's not getting the coverage that they give a brain dead lady in Florida or a kid touching pop star, but then again, this stuff is rarely talked about in polite conversation outside of our little world

BTW - I did want to say one thing to everyone - Jim has his opinions & I have mine & a lot of time we disagree - this one just happens to be in public & that's fine with me, because that's what this board is for - discussion.

I don't advise anyone to take Jim's or my opinion on this subject to heart - neither of us our lawyers.

Be With You

I still owe you an ass kicking

Jim · 2005-06-11, 08:10 AM

One last thing...I promise.
Back in the day when there was a real threat, it was on the news daily.

Cleo · 2005-06-11, 08:17 AM

Did someone say ass kicking?

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tickler · 2005-06-11, 07:22 PM

Stu, I'm starting to see quite a bit of that stuff.

Sponsors forcing non-US WMs to follow US rules, 'cause they don't want them to have an unfair advantage over US WMs. Guess my foreign sponsor content is going to go up.

Trev_UK · 2005-06-11, 07:59 PM

Excellent advice Jim!!!

Hell lets all go and break all the laws we feel are unjust!

You’ve just made onto my morons list!

Jim · 2005-06-11, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev_UK

Excellent advice Jim!!!

Hell lets all go and break all the laws we feel are unjust!

You’ve just made onto my morons list!

Nice first post
Thank you for your informed comments.

Jim · 2005-06-11, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev_UK

Excellent advice Jim!!!

Hell lets all go and break all the laws we feel are unjust!

You’ve just made onto my morons list!

I suppose with your thinking, Gandhi would have made your moron list as well. Or, the gentlemen that participated in the Boston Tea Party. Or, any Vietnam war protester that peacefully broke the law by not moving when being told to.

Trev_UK · 2005-06-12, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

I suppose with your thinking, Gandhi would have made your moron list as well. Or, the gentlemen that participated in the Boston Tea Party. Or, any Vietnam war protester that peacefully broke the law by not moving when being told to.

Jim you are a world away from those people!

I do apologise for pumping one off so quickly but after all the years I would never have expected you to give such novice advice, albeit your view and you’re entitled to it.

Saying that you feel all unjust laws should be broken is all well and good, but how many people reading this board (that actually have sites) will see you as a hero and follow you?

Breaking the law peacefully is still breaking the law, it would have been better to advise them to comply imho.

2005-06-10, 09:10 AM	#3
Special "Ed" Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lake St. Clair, Michigan Posts: 151	I agree Jim...its nice to see someone bringing some relief to all this bullshit. __________________ ICQ: 114784140

2005-06-10, 10:20 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	The problem with that is that the term "2257" is only one that we as porn webmasters use - if you look at the mainstream articles on that dipshit that got sentanced last week, they just stated that he violated a Federal Law. I'm sure every Federal Law has a number, but how often do you see it in the newspaper? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-10, 11:10 PM	#9
madleinx Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Big Easy, or Disneyland for Grown-Ups Posts: 120	Jim, you are the man! I wonder what DOJ would do if the entire online adult industry simply refused to comply I wish I had the money to take on this fight.... Here's the link to CNN's coverage of the signing of the regulations: New rules to crack down on child pornography What a crock..... __________________ <A HREF="http://apps.ClickCash.com/cgi/cc_refer.exe?acct=JUSTMARIE" target="_top">$40 PPS and up on FREE signups! All niches and tons of promo content!</A>

2005-06-11, 01:47 AM	#11
Mavic Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 8	US Gov is fucking with everything right now, I'm close to giving up broadband. Tring to cut out porn and p2p sharing, what else is broadband for? Might as well revert back to 300 bps and Compuserve. __________________ Mavic ICQ 65833720

2005-06-11, 06:31 AM	#12
troy I can spearhead the whole begging thing Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: nederlands Posts: 414	Thanks Jim Finnaly someone talking some sence in this whole bullshit. Please Stu relax to what sponsors are you reffering? Can't we all focus on the fact that the conversions are way down and what is cousing this __________________ Cumshot Specialist Great Porn

2005-06-10, 08:34 AM	#1
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Oh yeah Fuck these fear mongers...Get a fucking life and figure out a different way to make money. You remind me of a holy man asking for donations to go to heaven.

2005-06-10, 08:42 AM	#2
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Harley Davidson memorabilia if you are interested in a gift

2005-06-10, 01:54 PM	#4
mrMagoo Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 96	Well said Jim and thanks for saying what needs to be said

2005-06-10, 05:41 PM	#5
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	And as I said a million times...Some of us have been through much worse than this. Maybe when everyone sees this is just bullshit, people I thought would never get paranoid will stop being paranoid. I hope so at least.

2005-06-10, 08:17 PM	#6
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I'm sure it is out there but could someone post a link to a mainstream news site that talks about 2257. Nothing old...something current. Like I said, I'm sure it's there but I can't anything. Probably just my poor searching abilities.

2005-06-11, 06:37 AM	#15
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Remind me Greenie in July when I see you that I owe you 1 ass kicking

2005-06-11, 06:39 AM	#16
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I just wonder why it is only us talking about 2257 and no mainstream media...None. It is called 2257, not some federal law. Find me some mainstream media that is talking about "2257". And if I need to, I will ask Sparky to help me with the pictures.

2005-06-11, 07:56 AM	#17
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	madleinx posted a link to CNN - how much more mainstream can you get? I will agree that it's not getting the coverage that they give a brain dead lady in Florida or a kid touching pop star, but then again, this stuff is rarely talked about in polite conversation outside of our little world BTW - I did want to say one thing to everyone - Jim has his opinions & I have mine & a lot of time we disagree - this one just happens to be in public & that's fine with me, because that's what this board is for - discussion. I don't advise anyone to take Jim's or my opinion on this subject to heart - neither of us our lawyers. Be With You __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-11, 08:10 AM	#19
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	One last thing...I promise. Back in the day when there was a real threat, it was on the news daily.

2005-06-11, 08:17 AM	#20
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2005-06-11, 07:22 PM	#21
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	Stu, I'm starting to see quite a bit of that stuff. Sponsors forcing non-US WMs to follow US rules, 'cause they don't want them to have an unfair advantage over US WMs. Guess my foreign sponsor content is going to go up. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-06-11, 07:59 PM	#22
Trev_UK Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 21	Excellent advice Jim!!! Hell lets all go and break all the laws we feel are unjust! You’ve just made onto my morons list!

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