How's The Board Loading? - Page 5

RockDaddy · 2003-11-14, 04:34 PM

It was still pretty slow. I turned off sigs and avatars and it's better, not the fastest but a lot better than it was.

Some pages seem a lot faster than other for some reason

Greenguy · 2003-11-14, 05:36 PM

Kezza - Call it petty of you like, but there are many, many outside issues on that subject that will never become public knowledge.

MrsHackula - I am having the exact same problem, but the more I'm in here, the % of times it occurs drops (so read more messages I guess - LOL)

RawAlex · 2003-11-14, 06:05 PM

For me at this point, I see this:

main page and sections list fairly quickly today. The "new items" icon seems to take a long time to load, it is last.

Individual threads are REALLY slow to load. I sourced this thread as an example, and I am seeing a few signatures that are very long (cleo's randomizer thing is a pile of code, example), and the various grpahics added in the signature files add to the number of DNS lookups that need to be done. You might want to limit taglines to maybe 200 bytes and a single graphic, example, no more than 120 X 120.

replying takes time to load the form and such. Since it reloads part of the thread without signatures, I guess the sig files aren't the biggest hog. You might want to add some flush() commands in the PHP code to have it dump out at certain points so you can get a better idea of WHERE the slowdowns are occuring.

IMHO, it still looks like DB issues, either not having indexes for certain items that are being sorted on, or because of some limit (real or artificial) in the number of people able to access the database at the same time.

It's getting faster in some places, and that's good... keep at it :-)

Alex

RawAlex · 2003-11-14, 06:11 PM

Okay, I spotted a potential issue....

The avitars are being processed through the board, called by avitar.php - I am wondering how much work this has to do by itself to load a thread. I have seen some other board that just seem to use "direct" links rather than processing for this.

Just a thought...

Alex

EDIT: I went and disabled avitars, signatures, and inline graphics, and this runs at a good speed now. HOWEVER, the graphics for edit, reply, and such as the last to arrive. I went though a couple of threads, and they are WAY faster.

lbbv · 2003-11-14, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex
Okay, I spotted a potential issue....

The avitars are being processed through the board, called by avitar.php - I am wondering how much work this has to do by itself to load a thread. I have seen some other board that just seem to use "direct" links rather than processing for this.

snip...

Hi RawAlex, the avatars should not cause a slowdown, but I have noticed that page-loading will pause on certain signatures. A few people like to use javascript and remote invocation of phpAds in their sigs.

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Greenguy: We have discovered that phpAdsNew remote invocation is hella slow (which caused problems before at the top of the page). My best bet for a quick fix to this would be to enclose the sigs in an iframe (this will cause them to load after the page, and any broken or slow javascript won't cause the page to hang). I will talk to the _real_ lbbv on Monday, as he's at our datacenter today. We're keeping an eye on things

Stephen
NationalNet

RawAlex · 2003-11-14, 08:22 PM

The way you refer to objects in PHP also greatly affects the speed of apache. If you access graphics, php Ads, or others via an HTTP style reference rather than as a relative directory reference, you will be adding another process. Apache as normally configured has a limited number of processes, and as a result, this can bog the server while trying to get ads and such.

The sheer number of little graphical items on the pages makes me think that there is either not enough processes available, or the child processes for each user is too low, and is causing the machine to process them sequentially rather than in one big block. Not sure how to avoid this, except maybe to cache the graphics earlier in the page...

Alex

MrsHackula · 2003-11-14, 08:58 PM

Turning off sigs helped some!

Kezza · 2003-11-14, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Kezza - Call it petty of you like, but there are many, many outside issues on that subject that will never become public knowledge.

No sweat Greenguy... as I said I was just surprised

I hope you get your board issues sorted out... it is still painfully slow here, and I have turned off everything I could turn off

Surfn · 2003-11-15, 06:29 AM

The board is loading at a near normal rate for me now

A couple more tweaks and it will be fast

Sumrpal · 2003-11-15, 12:36 PM

I turned off signitures, avatars and image attachments. The board fairly zooms now, compared to the 8 to 10 seconds it used to take for a page to load.

And I don't have to scroll right/left to read the posts

(I know, I know ... I'll put the word in to Santa for a new monitor

)

Snowone · 2003-11-15, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lbbv
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Greenguy: We have discovered that phpAdsNew remote invocation is hella slow (which caused problems before at the top of the page).

Stephen
NationalNet

Really... I pointed that out and got slammed...

xxxjay · 2003-11-17, 03:18 AM

This board is still slow as hell - even after the redesign.

boneless · 2003-11-17, 05:01 AM

you got avatars and sigs turned off in the users panel? i did and the board (or at least the threads) are much much faster now....this thread loaded fast as lightening overhere ;-)

LilBiggz · 2003-11-17, 06:35 AM

What ever you guys did to it has made it much faster over here...

urb · 2003-11-17, 08:35 AM

My animated avatar is now 838 bytes |skull| (per hour).

Seriously...... the new text links for PM/WWW/edit/quote.. etc are making a difference.

Surfn · 2003-11-19, 04:08 PM

All afternoon I have been experiencing some strange stuff with this board. Typically I'll read a post and the little icon doesn't change when I come back to new topics. However, even stranger and more irritating is see a thread started by someone and seeing a couple of replies to the original post then seeing the original post/thread starter. I'm going to wait until the board returns to a more normal state for me before I continue to post.

Cleo · 2003-11-19, 04:19 PM

This is what happens when you have people posting from the future, just messes up the board.

Guess that e-mail about the time traveler was real after all.

Damn looks like it's time to upgrade the board software again, shit it was working so well too.

So is the update for out yet for the board that deals properly with time travel? Guess if it isn't we can just have it sent from the future.

PS: Could you send me the winning lotto numbers for all of next year for the state of Florida please?

Greenguy · 2003-11-19, 04:40 PM

Well, the time was wrong on the server (it was an hour off) so I adjusted the time for the board admin, but then they rebooted us & corrected the time problem on the server, so for 45 min or so, there were posts that had a time stamp on them of 1 hour ahead.

This is why some posts are jumbled around & why some of the buttons for "new posts" & whatnot still showed active.

It should have corrected itself a little while ago

GeorgeTH · 2003-11-19, 05:02 PM

Actually: the board is a lot slower for me since you first posted the question...
Like really sticky, sometimes sits for several seconds before loading buttons (on AU ADSL - I say this because 'our standard adsl' is slower than I experienced IDSN in Europe), or when 'posting' I don't get a scrollbar and posting field for a long time, or this thread "Preview Reply" sat there with the post showing, but no posting field, for about 25 seconds (status bar on about 15%)...

Jim · 2003-11-19, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeorgeTH
Actually: the board is a lot slower for me since you first posted the question...
Like really sticky, sometimes sits for several seconds before loading buttons (on AU ADSL - I say this because 'our standard adsl' is slower than I experienced IDSN in Europe), or when 'posting' I don't get a scrollbar and posting field for a long time, or this thread "Preview Reply" sat there with the post showing, but no posting field, for about 25 seconds (status bar on about 15%)...

There really is nothing more we can do. We have a monster machine, optimized to the max, 2 gigs of ram, no more unnecessary buttons...this is as good as it is going to get.

But...looking at your connections, they aren't really the fastest anyway.

Surfn · 2003-11-19, 05:53 PM

I just checked a couple new threads and a couple posts to existing thread. I don’t see any juxtaposition at this time, everything seems fine now. I wasn't referring to the time stamp. Trying to figure who was asking and who was answering was driving me nuts (a very short drive btw).

GG I still can't get your link in the resources to work.

Greenguy · 2003-11-19, 06:18 PM

Surfn - the time stamps cause the posts to display our of their posting order (but as far as the board script was concerned, they were posted in the right order)

If that makes sense?

& hopefully I can get a hold of Anne soon to get the other problem corrected

NotThatKevin · 2003-11-19, 06:59 PM

The board is rocking for me lately so GG must have improved the data pipe from Australia for us LOL

AussieWebmaster · 2003-11-19, 09:52 PM

I am getting a great speed in Manhattan

GeorgeTH · 2003-11-19, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
But...looking at your connections, they aren't really the fastest anyway.

Don't you dare saying this |raygun|

This is "Top Of The Line BEST AVAILABLE Speed in Rural Australia" - it can't get any better than this!
It must be 'Top Quality': I'm paying AU$139 per Gigabyte of bandwidth (yes: that's right: just over U$100/gig...)
And it's not even raining - then it's a lot worse due to line noise...

I know it can - as I said: Euro ISDN was faster 3 years ago than my current ADSL - but don't tell that Telstra.com - - - They never believe any complaint!

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2003-11-14, 05:36 PM	#102
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Kezza - Call it petty of you like, but there are many, many outside issues on that subject that will never become public knowledge. MrsHackula - I am having the exact same problem, but the more I'm in here, the % of times it occurs drops (so read more messages I guess - LOL) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-11-14, 06:11 PM	#104
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Okay, I spotted a potential issue.... The avitars are being processed through the board, called by avitar.php - I am wondering how much work this has to do by itself to load a thread. I have seen some other board that just seem to use "direct" links rather than processing for this. Just a thought... Alex EDIT: I went and disabled avitars, signatures, and inline graphics, and this runs at a good speed now. HOWEVER, the graphics for edit, reply, and such as the last to arrive. I went though a couple of threads, and they are WAY faster. Last edited by RawAlex; 2003-11-14 at 06:14 PM..

2003-11-17, 03:18 AM	#112
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	This board is still slow as hell - even after the redesign. __________________ Circle Of Violence

2003-11-17, 08:35 AM	#115
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	My animated avatar is now 838 bytes \|skull\| (per hour). Seriously...... the new text links for PM/WWW/edit/quote.. etc are making a difference. __________________ Last edited by urb; 2003-11-17 at 08:37 AM..

2003-11-14, 04:34 PM	#101
RockDaddy Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 65	It was still pretty slow. I turned off sigs and avatars and it's better, not the fastest but a lot better than it was. Some pages seem a lot faster than other for some reason

2003-11-14, 06:05 PM	#103
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	For me at this point, I see this: main page and sections list fairly quickly today. The "new items" icon seems to take a long time to load, it is last. Individual threads are REALLY slow to load. I sourced this thread as an example, and I am seeing a few signatures that are very long (cleo's randomizer thing is a pile of code, example), and the various grpahics added in the signature files add to the number of DNS lookups that need to be done. You might want to limit taglines to maybe 200 bytes and a single graphic, example, no more than 120 X 120. replying takes time to load the form and such. Since it reloads part of the thread without signatures, I guess the sig files aren't the biggest hog. You might want to add some flush() commands in the PHP code to have it dump out at certain points so you can get a better idea of WHERE the slowdowns are occuring. IMHO, it still looks like DB issues, either not having indexes for certain items that are being sorted on, or because of some limit (real or artificial) in the number of people able to access the database at the same time. It's getting faster in some places, and that's good... keep at it :-) Alex

2003-11-14, 08:22 PM	#106
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	The way you refer to objects in PHP also greatly affects the speed of apache. If you access graphics, php Ads, or others via an HTTP style reference rather than as a relative directory reference, you will be adding another process. Apache as normally configured has a limited number of processes, and as a result, this can bog the server while trying to get ads and such. The sheer number of little graphical items on the pages makes me think that there is either not enough processes available, or the child processes for each user is too low, and is causing the machine to process them sequentially rather than in one big block. Not sure how to avoid this, except maybe to cache the graphics earlier in the page... Alex

2003-11-14, 08:58 PM	#107
MrsHackula I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 86	Turning off sigs helped some!

2003-11-15, 06:29 AM	#109
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	The board is loading at a near normal rate for me now A couple more tweaks and it will be fast

2003-11-15, 12:36 PM	#110
Sumrpal If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 241	I turned off signitures, avatars and image attachments. The board fairly zooms now, compared to the 8 to 10 seconds it used to take for a page to load. And I don't have to scroll right/left to read the posts (I know, I know ... I'll put the word in to Santa for a new monitor )

2003-11-17, 05:01 AM	#113
boneless A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 56	you got avatars and sigs turned off in the users panel? i did and the board (or at least the threads) are much much faster now....this thread loaded fast as lightening overhere ;-)

2003-11-17, 06:35 AM	#114
LilBiggz No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 281	What ever you guys did to it has made it much faster over here...

2003-11-19, 04:08 PM	#116
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	All afternoon I have been experiencing some strange stuff with this board. Typically I'll read a post and the little icon doesn't change when I come back to new topics. However, even stranger and more irritating is see a thread started by someone and seeing a couple of replies to the original post then seeing the original post/thread starter. I'm going to wait until the board returns to a more normal state for me before I continue to post.

2003-11-19, 04:19 PM	#117
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	This is what happens when you have people posting from the future, just messes up the board. Guess that e-mail about the time traveler was real after all. Damn looks like it's time to upgrade the board software again, shit it was working so well too. So is the update for out yet for the board that deals properly with time travel? Guess if it isn't we can just have it sent from the future. PS: Could you send me the winning lotto numbers for all of next year for the state of Florida please? __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-11-19, 04:40 PM	#118
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Well, the time was wrong on the server (it was an hour off) so I adjusted the time for the board admin, but then they rebooted us & corrected the time problem on the server, so for 45 min or so, there were posts that had a time stamp on them of 1 hour ahead. This is why some posts are jumbled around & why some of the buttons for "new posts" & whatnot still showed active. It should have corrected itself a little while ago __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-11-19, 05:02 PM	#119
GeorgeTH Don't let a programmer design your front-end pages! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: currently on the road in CA Posts: 781	Actually: the board is a lot slower for me since you first posted the question... Like really sticky, sometimes sits for several seconds before loading buttons (on AU ADSL - I say this because 'our standard adsl' is slower than I experienced IDSN in Europe), or when 'posting' I don't get a scrollbar and posting field for a long time, or this thread "Preview Reply" sat there with the post showing, but no posting field, for about 25 seconds (status bar on about 15%)... __________________ Have a nice day!

2003-11-19, 05:53 PM	#121
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I just checked a couple new threads and a couple posts to existing thread. I don’t see any juxtaposition at this time, everything seems fine now. I wasn't referring to the time stamp. Trying to figure who was asking and who was answering was driving me nuts (a very short drive btw). GG I still can't get your link in the resources to work.

2003-11-19, 06:18 PM	#122
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Surfn - the time stamps cause the posts to display our of their posting order (but as far as the board script was concerned, they were posted in the right order) If that makes sense? & hopefully I can get a hold of Anne soon to get the other problem corrected __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-11-19, 06:59 PM	#123
NotThatKevin Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 155	The board is rocking for me lately so GG must have improved the data pipe from Australia for us LOL __________________ <a href="http://www.pgbucks.com"><img src="http://www.pgbucks.com/images/pgbucks.jpg" width="120" height="60" border="0" align="left"></a><br><br><br> <a href="http://www.pgbucks.com">14 Paysites for One Great Price + FHG </a>

2003-11-19, 09:52 PM	#124
AussieWebmaster I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 81	NYC Speedy I am getting a great speed in Manhattan __________________ Try a new affiliate program. http://www.rawfuckingcash.com www.pornstarpostershop.com good add on www.exoticimages.com needs gallery submissions

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