Found domain name in blacklist :(

[Yahook]

That's not really fair to the other people who use the same IP?

Sure, that's why I don't ban IP's. But there are other way to protect you from that cheaters.

[Yahook]

There is more profitable for webmasters to use some of "banned" hosting companies, there are lots of reasons:

1) Possibility to pay from Fethard, CG Pay, Web Money and so on.
2) 24h ICQ support - how many hosting companies have it?
3) Good price policy
4) Reliability - they know this hosting companies for a long time and they work well.

[Yahook]

Now you posted your POV. Why don't you run your LL that way and let other people run their LL the way they want it?

Because I don't ban hosting companies...

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Yahook

Because I don't ban hosting companies...

Ok. Good for you

[RawAlex]

Sundiver, about a year ago, a discussion here lead to the revealing of a single host name that was banned. Within hours, certain webmaster chat boards were filled with ways to get around the ban, how to set up other name servers, the host tried to contract out boxes on another host to move people, etc. It wasn't to stop the reasons that they would have been banned for, but instead to help the exact set of cheaters that were banned to work their way around the blocks. They were not going to make their sites better, remove the toolbar downloaders, the geo redirections, or re-install the images that 404ed to console hell, but they were sure going to try to trick us into listing their shit sites again.

I don't think very many link sites used a shared host ban list. I think pretty much each link site owner arrives at the same place by themselves. When we see cheaters, we attempt to find out who they are and what relationship they may have with past cheaters. We INDIVIDUALLY look for the best ways to protect out sites against people wasting out time, resources, and fucking surfers over. In the end, that many link sites have come to the pretty much the same set of conclusions should tell you something.

There is a shared blacklist (that I don't use) for individual emails or domains. It isn't any different from the posts in the "possible cheater" section on this board, except that the effects are a little more regular. Only a very few sites at the top of the chain can actually add bans that affect all sites. Everyone else maintains their own list plus the main list - but they cannot add to that main list. THere is no chance that a link site with 50 hits a day total traffic can randomly ban you and stop you from getting listed at Richard's, Link-o-rama, or other sites using that particular blacklist.

Link lists are not bound to list you. Satisfaction is not suggested, implied, or offered. How they choose to not list you is up to them.

Alex

[Yahook]

link|penisbot.com shows 5 010 000 pages

Checking first one: http://www.dlink.com/ - I don't see link to Penisbot there.
The second one: http://www.theatre-link.com/ - I don't see link to Penisbot there too.

So this search doesn't work for me.

But thanks for giving info for me. I know you wanted to help

[Linkster]

Yahook - you are correct - Google has found their bug - so now using the pipe | symbol does almost the exact same thing as just typing in the domain.com - and choosing see all pages that contain domain.com
If you choose "see all sites that link to domain.com" it will only give a small sample of the backlinks (around 10% for a site I just checked)
However if you check using the link: command in Yahoo it seems to give almost all of the backlinks

[RawAlex]

sundiver, at the end of the day, if you live in a bad neighborhood, then you will have a hard time getting anyone to come to your door. You might be the most honest guy in the world, but you are surrounded by cheaters and scammers. I don't have the time or the will try to pick you out of that crowd.

I am currently looking at some other options that might help some webmasters out.

As for hosting, I don't use a credit card, I pay by check. You might want to consider that option (even if you have to get a company in the US to issue the checks for you) rather than limiting yourself to a very few hosts because of payment issues.

As Linkster siad, google has chosen to obscure or not show all of the results, and to provide variable information that is difficult to track and use for SEO. It makes it much more interesting to watch.

Alex

[Yahook]

Yes, but the number of links can't be more than the number of results for "domain.com".

[Linkster]

Yahook thats very true - but domain.com results arent all links