My Beef with TGP owners

[HowlingWulf]

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

[deleuze]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

I still own two. I also own 2 non-skim ones. So I speak from experience when I say skimming is practically worthless.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

So how many people knocking skim tgps have ever owned one? I'm guessing none.

Used to own two, but I yanked the trading scripts when I saw the correlation between installing the scripts and my sales coming to a screaming halt. Months later and I'm still trying win back the surfers. But at least I get the occasional sale.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Stever

OK. Whats the deal with pic TGP's. It seems that, much more so, lately, when i click on a pic and expect to see a gallery i get redirected to another TGP. Click on a pic here and get sent to another TGP. and so on. What the Fuck?

Surfers expect to see a gallery with pics of the chic they saw when they clicked. Sending them through 3-4 or more TGP sites before they get to see a gallery with a link to a sponsor must drive down conversions. I find it very annoying, others must too.

So whats up? Are these TGP owners just using shitty scripts to automate things (but dont actually work very well) or do they not get enough submitters so they fill the blanks with links to sites they share traffic with. Or are the submitters cheating and throwing in a link to their TGP instead of a gallery? or all the above?

Very curious about this.

Millions of dollars are being made using skim. Should these TGP owners just stop doing this so that you can get free porn more easily?

[fireorange]

A skimmed TGP/MGP makes no money.

Tell that to the owner of http://www.spermshack.com/

[deleuze]

Originally Posted by fireorange

A skimmed TGP/MGP makes no money.

Tell that to the owner of http://www.spermshack.com/

You know how much he makes? Obviously a lot of skimmed TGPs make money but it is nothing compared to what a non-skimmed TGP of equal size makes. Skimmed traffic for the most part is garbage as most of the money a site makes is from bookmarkers, SEs and perm links. The only reason to keep up a skim is to increase traffic - you may be able to double your traffic by skimming but the revenue increase would be minimal. Most TGP owners either; a) have an ego so big that it clouds their judgement thus preventing them from seeing the long term benefits of running a clean site; or b) skim to increase traffic so they can sell off gallery spots easier. It doesn't mean that the gallery spots will generate more sales - it's just that it is much easier to sell them if you can say your site has 300K as opposed to 150K.

[Undisputed1]

Originally Posted by deleuze

You know how much he makes? Obviously a lot of skimmed TGPs make money but it is nothing compared to what a non-skimmed TGP of equal size makes. Skimmed traffic for the most part is garbage as most of the money a site makes is from bookmarkers, SEs and perm links. The only reason to keep up a skim is to increase traffic - you may be able to double your traffic by skimming but the revenue increase would be minimal. Most TGP owners either; a) have an ego so big that it clouds their judgement thus preventing them from seeing the long term benefits of running a clean site; or b) skim to increase traffic so they can sell off gallery spots easier. It doesn't mean that the gallery spots will generate more sales - it's just that it is much easier to sell them if you can say your site has 300K as opposed to 150K.

I agree, but I personally don't care if my site is 300K or 150K if the money is the same. I am happy. I am also happy if my bookmarkers are happy and not getting jerked around. Plus I'd rather save the bandwidth, and when my site gets big enough to charge for gallery spots or whatever. It will be for a very small fee.