Sig Whores, What Do You Think? - Page 2

BlueQuartz · 2005-03-09, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LB

Now ... I totally agree with your reasoning, however sigwhores (posters who really only add non-business discussions mostly) increase the activity in a board.

When you have an increase in activity you attract more regular contributors, and your visitors vist more frequently.

Eg, i can look at GG&J 2 times a week and take in all the discussions and threads quite easily. You get me hitting your forum twice and only seeing 2 sets of banners etc etc. I hit netpond constantly, and its not because there is more business related content ... but because its always moving.

I just believe sigwhores are a necessary evil.

no offence but theres not much logic to your case

I think the idea here - and why we all agree this board is best for business - is that there is not mad activity from soem guy posting 10 ' would you hit it threads' - if we want to see 'activity' as you call it we will head on over to gfy and join in the crap

old chinese proverb
" i take 10 se hits over 100 tgp hits every day"

my extrapolation of this proverb

" i like read 10 good post not 100 shit post"

Wenchy · 2005-03-09, 04:08 PM

My personal feeling about sig whores is that they need to find something constructive to do. Okay sure, some of them get paid, but overall I'd say that's probably not the case.

I know Greenie and a few others from way back and assume they know I'm not a newb, but if anyone else does... oh well. Post counts be damned!

I've been around this biz long enough to know that I can find better uses for my limited time than posting when I don't have an absolute need to do so, and I'm very selective about the threads I respond to. I'm a single mom working a full-time day job and raising a 16-year-old in addition to slinging porn... I barely have time to read the board a couple of times a week, let alone post a bunch of times about things that have nothing to do with me or my business.

I don't read other boards anymore. I can get everything I need, both business and entertainment, right here... and I don't have to deal with all the annoying BS in the process, which makes me a very happy wench indeed

Kath · 2005-03-09, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wenchy

My personal feeling about sig whores is that they need to find something constructive to do. Okay sure, some of them get paid, but overall I'd say that's probably not the case.

I know Greenie and a few others from way back and assume they know I'm not a newb, but if anyone else does... oh well. Post counts be damned!

I've been around this biz long enough to know that I can find better uses for my limited time than posting when I don't have an absolute need to do so, and I'm very selective about the threads I respond to. I'm a single mom working a full-time day job and raising a 16-year-old in addition to slinging porn... I barely have time to read the board a couple of times a week, let alone post a bunch of times about things that have nothing to do with me or my business.

I don't read other boards anymore. I can get everything I need, both business and entertainment, right here... and I don't have to deal with all the annoying BS in the process, which makes me a very happy wench indeed

OMG - is that THE Wenchy???

How the hell are you? What have you been up to?

You know, I love the way this board brings out so many people that we haven't seen around in years. It's like old home week around here all the time!

Glad to see you posting here Wenchy - you've been missed!

Dagwolf · 2005-03-14, 12:50 AM

I AM A SIGWHORE! But not here. In fact, I own gfysigwhore.com

lol

I have to agree with you on some points;

Sigwhores suck ass. Sigwhores get paid for quantity, not quality. We have to make massive amounts of posts in order to generate a significant income; unless you're Samuel Clemens it's almost impossibel to make 1000-3000 posts per month and still seem like an intelligent human being.

I try to be entertaining, but income has to come first. I am very grateful to TCG for the opportunity they've given me (again, they don't pay me for posting here, all I get is the refcode in my sig). The extra income is helping me and my family through a very rough time.

Still, I'm making a real effort to generate enough income from my webmastering that I'll no longer have to whore fulltime.

Is it bad for the boards? I don't think it's BAD, if it's limited. Uncontrolled whoring can be an ugly thing. It may have SOME positive impact if it's not overdone.

Is it good for the sponsors? It must be, they keep paying.

But still... when I need REAL information I come to greenguysboard.com! Which reminds me, I came here to ask about promoting Indian sites. In another thread.

Opti · 2005-03-15, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Sigwhores suck ass. Sigwhores get paid for quantity, not quality. We have to make massive amounts of posts in order to generate a significant income; unless you're Samuel Clemens it's almost impossibel to make 1000-3000 posts per month and still seem like an intelligent human being.

I don't really know a lot about this... but as a person that went looking to hire one, I can guarantee you quantity wasnt what I was looking for... was looking for soemone who was a known regular at a coulple of boards.. that made a useful informative posts.. Imho webmasters make a point of clicking the sigs of interesting people.. to find out more about the person, I do at very least.

(PS.. I didn't want to pay the prices needed to get the spot with either of the 2 suitable people that I did run across btw. 500-600/mth)

Dagwolf · 2005-03-16, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opti

I don't really know a lot about this... but as a person that went looking to hire one, I can guarantee you quantity wasnt what I was looking for... was looking for soemone who was a known regular at a coulple of boards.. that made a useful informative posts.. Imho webmasters make a point of clicking the sigs of interesting people.. to find out more about the person, I do at very least.

(PS.. I didn't want to pay the prices needed to get the spot with either of the 2 suitable people that I did run across btw. 500-600/mth)

If you DO buy a sig, and you want quality, don't pay per post.

Greenguy · 2005-03-08, 03:35 PM

Well be back to 7 or 8 by the weekend - just watch

Jim · 2005-03-08, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

Well be back to 7 or 8 by the weekend - just watch

Yeah, most likely. Boardtracker doesn't really keep up with the bullshit posts as they should. They do a great job for something so big but...some still get through.

Lemmy · 2005-03-08, 03:54 PM

Maybe this would discourage the sig whores. |cool|

BlueQuartz · 2005-03-08, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

Maybe this would discourage the sig whores. |cool|

man they need that mod on gfy, it would seriously fuck the sig whores up |cool|

Jim · 2005-03-08, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz

man they need that mod on gfy, it would seriously fuck the sig whores up |cool|

You might remember that Eric told us that their mods were much more professional because they don't get in the middle of the surfer fights

Jim · 2005-03-08, 03:55 PM

And I agree with you Greenie. I truly believe that both sig and post whores are the scourge of the resource business. They never have anything productive to offer the community and make it hard for real business people find useful information.

BlueQuartz · 2005-03-08, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

And I agree with you Greenie. I truly believe that both sig and post whores are the scourge of the resource business. They never have anything productive to offer the community and make it hard for real business people find useful information.

that sums it up very well jim

who is the biggest board whore of all time? that 'juicylinks' guy on gfy - 55,000 posts - all of them pics of himself

digifan · 2005-03-08, 03:59 PM

Sig whores... that's just too broad.. am I a sig whore for flying that button of a huge and reputable company advertising at this great board too?

PR_Tom · 2005-03-08, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by digifan

Sig whores... that's just too broad.. am I a sig whore for flying that button of a huge and reputable company advertising at this great board too?

I would say No, not at all.
Because you're a real, known person who contributes to the community. Ultimately I think thats the deciding factor.

Tommy · 2005-03-08, 05:44 PM

well if its a problem there would be a easy way of getting rid of sig whores

just make it so a person doesnt get a sig untill a certian number of posts like 250

my sig at the top of second page :-)

Greenguy · 2005-03-08, 05:47 PM

Hey Tommy! I think I owe you a

PM me your address

Greenguy · 2005-03-08, 07:44 PM

Our definition of a Sig Whore is one (male or female) who posts for the sake of posting & getting their sig file seen.

We have a few, but they tend to get picked on & either leave or are banned

Agent · 2005-03-08, 10:56 PM

I don't visit boards that allow large or annoying sigs. If I'm trying to read text and I see a large animating flash advert only a few pixels below what I'm reading I get distracted. If I see 20 of them I go nutty. Then I come back here.

Not allowing large obtrusive adverts also cuts down on the type of people who would abuse them - forum spammers, including those who consistantly only contribute to discussions using the words 'awesome', 'lol', and other insightful single-word remarks.

Some boards look like dirty webmaster whore houses. This one has class.

(I realize my sig is slightly annoying so I'm moving it down this page until I find a better one)

Bare · 2005-03-09, 04:21 AM

There's also something else to consider on the three letter board. Post count = "respectability" on that board. If you don't have a large post count you're a newbie and anything you say is basically ignored and/or challenged. So I think "serious webmasters" starting out pretty much have to start as post/sig whores to be taken seriously later.

Stever · 2005-03-09, 05:12 AM

Being new to the board, and adult boards in general, i must say that sponsor referal links in sig files are a great resource. I am happy to use them and hopefuly send a fellow webmaster a commish.

But I can be slightly selective in who's sig i click on. People who have been helpfull or at least nice in responding to my posts will likely get a click when im looking for new sponsors. Or others i see posting often and contributing good stuff in other discussions.

The sig whores probably have a very low conversion ratio from posting to boards, unless of coarse those scummy buisness practices attract more scummy webmasters. meanwhile us honest business people tend to stick with those that practice good honest business practices.

my two cents.

Greenguy · 2005-03-09, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bare

There's also something else to consider on the three letter board. Post count = "respectability" on that board...

That's true for every board, this one included. Unless you know the name of the poster before they came over here, most people automatically assume that the poster is a "newbie" (myself included)

I do think that the good part about this board (and a few others) is that legit webmasters with legit questions will get legit answers, regardless of post count

Kinky · 2005-03-09, 08:30 AM

I just clicked over to "Gotta Fuckin' Yell" just for the hell of it, hadn't been over there forever, and you see really quick why you never go there, sig whores fight and bring on confrontation just for the fact of making more posts which is just friggin' lame and every thread turns into a "fuck you you're wrong and I'm right" kinda bullshit just to bump up post counts

Certifiedbitch · 2005-03-09, 05:17 AM

some sig whores do the posting because they are getting paid by doing so but sometimes they come to a point of spamming instead of contributing to the board.

XXXPhoto · 2005-03-09, 08:41 AM

IMO sigwhores have been around since YNOT... difference is the good ones back then enjoyed a good success rate while the ones today folks generally just find annoying.

People in general resist change, just because we make our living from this new communication vehicle doesn't mean we are immune to this. Upgrades, patches... few look forward to those potentially hairpulling delights. Over the years have seen gripes about SEO changes, consoles, TGPs, email spam and more; yet all of those things are still with us dispite being unpopular with some people.

The sigwhore issue shares a commonality with those things above; someone is making money off it. When value of the return outweighs the cost will see a change because quest for the dollar seems to cancel out that natural resistance to change quite well.

2005-03-09, 04:08 PM	#2
Wenchy Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mile High City Posts: 120	My personal feeling about sig whores is that they need to find something constructive to do. Okay sure, some of them get paid, but overall I'd say that's probably not the case. I know Greenie and a few others from way back and assume they know I'm not a newb, but if anyone else does... oh well. Post counts be damned! I've been around this biz long enough to know that I can find better uses for my limited time than posting when I don't have an absolute need to do so, and I'm very selective about the threads I respond to. I'm a single mom working a full-time day job and raising a 16-year-old in addition to slinging porn... I barely have time to read the board a couple of times a week, let alone post a bunch of times about things that have nothing to do with me or my business. I don't read other boards anymore. I can get everything I need, both business and entertainment, right here... and I don't have to deal with all the annoying BS in the process, which makes me a very happy wench indeed __________________ I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"

2005-03-14, 12:50 AM	#4
Dagwolf They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 146	I AM A SIGWHORE! But not here. In fact, I own gfysigwhore.com lol I have to agree with you on some points; Sigwhores suck ass. Sigwhores get paid for quantity, not quality. We have to make massive amounts of posts in order to generate a significant income; unless you're Samuel Clemens it's almost impossibel to make 1000-3000 posts per month and still seem like an intelligent human being. I try to be entertaining, but income has to come first. I am very grateful to TCG for the opportunity they've given me (again, they don't pay me for posting here, all I get is the refcode in my sig). The extra income is helping me and my family through a very rough time. Still, I'm making a real effort to generate enough income from my webmastering that I'll no longer have to whore fulltime. Is it bad for the boards? I don't think it's BAD, if it's limited. Uncontrolled whoring can be an ugly thing. It may have SOME positive impact if it's not overdone. Is it good for the sponsors? It must be, they keep paying. But still... when I need REAL information I come to greenguysboard.com! Which reminds me, I came here to ask about promoting Indian sites. In another thread. __________________ Hey, what did I do this time?

2005-03-08, 03:35 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Well be back to 7 or 8 by the weekend - just watch __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-08, 03:54 PM	#9
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	Maybe this would discourage the sig whores. \|cool\| __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2005-03-08, 03:59 PM	#14
digifan ...and since we know an end will come it makes our living so much fun Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In your dreams, baby Posts: 3,835	Sig whores... that's just too broad.. am I a sig whore for flying that button of a huge and reputable company advertising at this great board too? __________________ Webair Rocks

2005-03-08, 03:55 PM	#12
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	And I agree with you Greenie. I truly believe that both sig and post whores are the scourge of the resource business. They never have anything productive to offer the community and make it hard for real business people find useful information.

2005-03-08, 05:44 PM	#16
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	well if its a problem there would be a easy way of getting rid of sig whores just make it so a person doesnt get a sig untill a certian number of posts like 250 my sig at the top of second page :-) __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-03-08, 05:47 PM	#17
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Hey Tommy! I think I owe you a PM me your address __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-08, 07:44 PM	#18
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Our definition of a Sig Whore is one (male or female) who posts for the sake of posting & getting their sig file seen. We have a few, but they tend to get picked on & either leave or are banned __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-08, 10:56 PM	#19
Agent You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 631	I don't visit boards that allow large or annoying sigs. If I'm trying to read text and I see a large animating flash advert only a few pixels below what I'm reading I get distracted. If I see 20 of them I go nutty. Then I come back here. Not allowing large obtrusive adverts also cuts down on the type of people who would abuse them - forum spammers, including those who consistantly only contribute to discussions using the words 'awesome', 'lol', and other insightful single-word remarks. Some boards look like dirty webmaster whore houses. This one has class. (I realize my sig is slightly annoying so I'm moving it down this page until I find a better one) __________________ Brihana.com

2005-03-09, 04:21 AM	#20
Bare A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 53	There's also something else to consider on the three letter board. Post count = "respectability" on that board. If you don't have a large post count you're a newbie and anything you say is basically ignored and/or challenged. So I think "serious webmasters" starting out pretty much have to start as post/sig whores to be taken seriously later.

2005-03-09, 05:12 AM	#21
Stever Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 208	Being new to the board, and adult boards in general, i must say that sponsor referal links in sig files are a great resource. I am happy to use them and hopefuly send a fellow webmaster a commish. But I can be slightly selective in who's sig i click on. People who have been helpfull or at least nice in responding to my posts will likely get a click when im looking for new sponsors. Or others i see posting often and contributing good stuff in other discussions. The sig whores probably have a very low conversion ratio from posting to boards, unless of coarse those scummy buisness practices attract more scummy webmasters. meanwhile us honest business people tend to stick with those that practice good honest business practices. my two cents.

2005-03-09, 08:30 AM	#23
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	I just clicked over to "Gotta Fuckin' Yell" just for the hell of it, hadn't been over there forever, and you see really quick why you never go there, sig whores fight and bring on confrontation just for the fact of making more posts which is just friggin' lame and every thread turns into a "fuck you you're wrong and I'm right" kinda bullshit just to bump up post counts __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-03-09, 05:17 AM	#24
Certifiedbitch You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 547	some sig whores do the posting because they are getting paid by doing so but sometimes they come to a point of spamming instead of contributing to the board. __________________ www.idealbandwidth.com Hosting Solutions Starting at $18 per Mbps ICQ: 223-034-292 siena@idealbandwidth.com

2005-03-09, 08:41 AM	#25
XXXPhoto If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Golf Course Posts: 33	IMO sigwhores have been around since YNOT... difference is the good ones back then enjoyed a good success rate while the ones today folks generally just find annoying. People in general resist change, just because we make our living from this new communication vehicle doesn't mean we are immune to this. Upgrades, patches... few look forward to those potentially hairpulling delights. Over the years have seen gripes about SEO changes, consoles, TGPs, email spam and more; yet all of those things are still with us dispite being unpopular with some people. The sigwhore issue shares a commonality with those things above; someone is making money off it. When value of the return outweighs the cost will see a change because quest for the dollar seems to cancel out that natural resistance to change quite well. __________________ \|shocking\| Go ALL IN with CamZ.com \|shocking\| PLUS- Get PAID to host with us! [details at HostCamZ.com]