These people love Richards-Realm a lot! - Page 2

absix · 2005-03-16, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

So you bought a site, threw it online & never bothered to check what was in the html coding. Not too fucking bright if you ask me.

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RawAlex · 2005-03-16, 10:50 AM

An accident is "woops, I dropped my coffee"... you don't accidentally ADD about 100 very specific words to your meta tags. "Oops, I typed Richards Realm twice"...

Come off it.

Your guy attempted to steal traffic from others be misleading SEs. When faced with it, he only removed a very small part of the problem.

Sad.

Alex

AdultMasterCash · 2005-03-16, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

An accident is "woops, I dropped my coffee"... you don't accidentally ADD about 100 very specific words to your meta tags. "Oops, I typed Richards Realm twice"...

Come off it.

Your guy attempted to steal traffic from others be misleading SEs. When faced with it, he only removed a very small part of the problem.

Sad.

Alex

I'm giving up. We steal traffic from worldsex and richards-realm, then trying to "escape" when catched out. And Hun or any other big TGP/Linklist are trying to steal money from sponsors every time they list gallery using stolen content - and trying to "escape" by deleting it from listing when it is discovered.
Get real. We had no reasons for such a stupid speculations. No reasons ever - just pure pragmatism tells that most optimistic income from such an idiotic action would not overcome a threat of appearing in a thread like this.
It is up to you to believe us or not. I'm not going to argue any more. Just follow your common sence - ask yourself would you risk 3,5 years business for possible few thousands hits and if not ask yourself again why do you consider people to be more stupid than you.

edit: Ups, sorry - I just noticed you typed "your guy" not "you guys". What can I say - I can just repeat that it was foreign site which we have invited to our program about a year ago (15 jan 2004 if I remember all correct). Our fault was that we have not noticed these words, not adding them cause they already existed when site appeared in our program - and I have described all the reasons why we did not noticed them earlier. We've got the site with those words already and I think about the guy who has added them that he is an idiot. Only idiot would do such a thing.
Our fault is that we were not attentive enough - and I admit it in full. However, I barely can imagine what can we do now to undo all the time these words were on site.
So I can't understand what do you want from us now - can anyone say it exactly?

Kinky · 2005-03-16, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultMasterCash

I'm giving up. We steal traffic from worldsex and richards-realm, then trying to "escape" when catched out. And Hun or any other big TGP/Linklist are trying to steal money from sponsors every time they list gallery using stolen content - and trying to "escape" by deleting it from listing when it is discovered.
Get real. We had no reasons for such a stupid speculations. No reasons ever - just pure pragmatism tells that most optimistic income from such an idiotic action would not overcome a threat of appearing in a thread like this.
It is up to you to believe us or not. I'm not going to argue any more. Just follow your common sence - ask yourself would you risk 3,5 years business for possible few thousands hits and if not ask yourself again why do you consider people to be more stupid than you.

the point is that the site is in your program and it was/is doing complete bullshit which gives your whole program a BAD NAME... if you aren't responsible (and see my previous post for that excuse) then you need to police your program a bit more.... I don't care if you are in business for 3,5 years 3.5 years or 35 years.... it doesn't really matter if you stole 1 hit or 100,000 hits it is stil 100% wrong to do especially when you are a SPONSOR, and the "we didn't know but now it is fixed" excuse has been used too many times

RawAlex · 2005-03-16, 12:50 PM

Adultmastercash, TGPs and link sites CANNOT and DO NOT control the content of the sites they link to. They review them when the list them, and some dishonest fuckers actually go back and change the sites. It isn't the TGP owner or his "employees" doing it... it is a third party. THEY DON'T CONTROL IT. When they spot it, they pull it down.

Your site. Your program. Your responsiblity. Your thieving meta tags. Nobody else to blame (unless you want to use the standard "outside contractor" BS that often seems to be the case).

You tried, you got caught, be a man, live up to it, fix it, and try to move on before more people decide not to list your stuff.

Alex

AdultMasterCash · 2005-03-16, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You tried, you got caught, be a man, live up to it, fix it, and try to move on before more people decide not to list your stuff.
Alex

I will not argue with this "you tried".
You want to believe it - it is your holy right.
I admitted all the faults we have done and we have fixed them once have been awared of this thread. I will never admit we could even think to put these words on our site - because we couldn't. It has a bad side - we could not think anyone will do it as well. We were wrong - it was the lesson we have learned well. But if you expect me to shot myself because of this - I won't do it, sorry. I have admitted all our own mistakes but I won't feel sorry for every single thing you could think about me personally or our team.

It is up to you to work with us or not. Want to think we're "fucking russian cheaters" - think it and be happy. People who work with us for some time and had an opportunity to ensure we're fair partners will not allow this stupid incident to confuse their oppinion about us.

Good luck.

Kinky · 2005-03-16, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultMasterCash

Want to think we're "fucking russian cheaters" - think it and be happy. People who work with us for some time and had an opportunity to ensure we're fair partners will not allow this stupid incident to confuse their oppinion about us.

Good luck.

WTF? who said ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIA???? you admitted that it was a mistake that should not have happened, but people that have been in this business for a long time and have VERY VERY close relationships with some of the sites that were infringed upon will not take it lightly.... if you run a sponsor program KNOW WHAT YOUR PROGRAM IS DOING as you are liable for it

AdultMasterCash · 2005-03-16, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kinky

WTF? who said ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIA???? you admitted that it was a mistake that should not have happened, but people that have been in this business for a long time and have VERY VERY close relationships with some of the sites that were infringed upon will not take it lightly.... if you run a sponsor program KNOW WHAT YOUR PROGRAM IS DOING as you are liable for it

Okay. I have been awared about this issue - ETHICAL issue like SirMoby mentioned - and it was fixed immediately. I have admitted we're fucked up being not knowing what is placed to one of our site's metategs. I brought my apologies to every webmaster who have been offended with it. I am serious about financial compensation to any party involved.
However you guys continue to blame on us. Fine, seems the matter is not in the problem itself because problem itself is resolved already. It was a single and quite an unique case that will not happen in future in any way.
But it seems you are upset with so simple solution

Ok, let's make 20 pages thread about fucking adultmastercash program which has absolutely no control on it's stuff. You know it is not true but for some reason you continue to repeat this complaint again and again.

So what else do you (personally you) want from us? If you can say exactly what is so wrong to you I will try to resolve this problem as well. I can't reverse time to the moment we have not noticed these metategs and make fix on them in time - it is the thing I really would love to do but I can't. So it has happened and was fixed later than it should. What now? You want me to promice "mom I will be good boy"? I supposed we are mature people here and saying I am sorry about this happening is enough to understand that I am sorry.
So either say exactly what do you want us to do now or visit my post above as well.

Pervypete · 2005-03-16, 08:53 PM

I've had this sucker blacklisted for some time now. Try using their FHG's after having signed up using CCBill as processor, and not the standard processor of AMC...
I remember some interesting correspondance I had amonth ago about this problem, as discussed with AMC and CCBill...

Look at my blacklist of who's NOT welcome at my TGP's. Just a suggestion... how to spend a lot of work, and then later, nothing but trouble and some very wrong answers.

How I just hate that feeling of beeing so deply fother mucked.

AdultMasterCash · 2005-03-17, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervypete

I've had this sucker blacklisted for some time now. Try using their FHG's after having signed up using CCBill as processor, and not the standard processor of AMC...
I remember some interesting correspondance I had amonth ago about this problem, as discussed with AMC and CCBill...

Look at my blacklist of who's NOT welcome at my TGP's. Just a suggestion... how to spend a lot of work, and then later, nothing but trouble and some very wrong answers.

How I just hate that feeling of beeing so deply fother mucked.

Ah, hi Pete. I thought I explained everything to you in my last email. Seems not... Ok, a little explanation about this misunderstanding. Possibly not only you get this issue.
We had an issue with our FHG for those who use CCBill affiliate program with our sites - traffic sent to FHG was not count in CCBill. All signups going from FHG were counted to CCBill affiliate account although. The issue was based on the problem we could not determine who uses our own stats and who uses CCBill directly at the moment of opening our FHG - but we were able to determine it when surfer reached join page and submit webmaster's affiliate code to CCBill. We have resolved this problem by adding one more option to FHG link codes and now all webmasters using CCBill affiliate program with our sites getting link codes which allow CCBill to count all traffic correctly.

Again: no signups were lost in any way - just traffic stats (FHG/FHS links for CCBill affiliates only) before we have added additional link code option. And traffic stats do not miss now as well.

It is up to you to decide what do you want to do. However, it was just a misunderstanding from your side, not an our mistake or malicious action.

2005-03-16, 10:50 AM	#2
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	An accident is "woops, I dropped my coffee"... you don't accidentally ADD about 100 very specific words to your meta tags. "Oops, I typed Richards Realm twice"... Come off it. Your guy attempted to steal traffic from others be misleading SEs. When faced with it, he only removed a very small part of the problem. Sad. Alex

2005-03-16, 12:50 PM	#5
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Adultmastercash, TGPs and link sites CANNOT and DO NOT control the content of the sites they link to. They review them when the list them, and some dishonest fuckers actually go back and change the sites. It isn't the TGP owner or his "employees" doing it... it is a third party. THEY DON'T CONTROL IT. When they spot it, they pull it down. Your site. Your program. Your responsiblity. Your thieving meta tags. Nobody else to blame (unless you want to use the standard "outside contractor" BS that often seems to be the case). You tried, you got caught, be a man, live up to it, fix it, and try to move on before more people decide not to list your stuff. Alex

2005-03-16, 08:53 PM	#9
Pervypete Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western Europe Posts: 5	I've had this sucker blacklisted for some time now. Try using their FHG's after having signed up using CCBill as processor, and not the standard processor of AMC... I remember some interesting correspondance I had amonth ago about this problem, as discussed with AMC and CCBill... Look at my blacklist of who's NOT welcome at my TGP's. Just a suggestion... how to spend a lot of work, and then later, nothing but trouble and some very wrong answers. How I just hate that feeling of beeing so deply fother mucked.