Greenguy's Stats Released For Jan 1 Thru Mar 31 2005

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART

2) Prior to removing these sites from our network or should i say not making them visible to grab new codes, ALL affiliates were notified 30 days prior. There were total of 3 Letters sent out to all of our affiliate partners along with a couple of newsletters informing them of this move.

I've searched thru all the newsletters & emails that I've gotten from your program & I looked in your admin area & I do not see where you sent or posted this info.

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART

3) You say how can we change codes numerous times in less than 10 months? EASY! We are trying to accommodate our webmasters by giving them flexible programs and higher payouts. DON'T YOU WANT TO GET PAID MORE?

Like I said before, my biggest problem with the changing of the codes is that Adult Lounge never told anyone they were changing the codes. While I was looking for the newsletter/email about the 34 sites that are being "removed" I also looked for info on the changing of the link codes. I don't see it anywhere in the newsletters you sent nor do I see it in your admin area.

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART

4) All this could have been resolved very simple, all you had to do is email me or just him me up on ICQ. I'm sorry i dont come here every day and check post after all i do have an affiliate program to run.

If you don't want people to reply to your posts, then maybe you should not post here.

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART

5) I dont know why you have such animosity towards AdultLounge. Is it to create drama to get views? Did i step on your toes? I really would like to know. Its funny how you dont talk about the great conversions you get with our sites & that we pay on time and are always around to answer questions. You are trying to make AdultLounge to look bad for no reason.

I would be saying the same thing to any program that did the things you are doing. ANY PROGRAM!

BTW - here's screen caps of the Adult Lounge newsletter archive in the admin - based on #2, one would think there's have been an announcement about the link codes & "removed" sites on or around March 11th

http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge01.jpg
http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge02.jpg
http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge03.jpg

[Extreme Nate]

awesome stats GG

[Greenguy]

Raffi - you're proving my point!

Here are the quotes once again:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART 4-13-05

those sites and codes are still active, if you are using old linking codes they will work but you cant get new codes for those sites because we are removing them from the adultlounge network.

Please pay special attention to the part where Art says we are removing them from the adultlounge network

12 days later, it's a different story:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART 04-25-05

No! That is not the plan... those codes are active and will work AS LONG AS AdultLounge is around. As i said before if you are sending traffic to those codes they will work and we are not planning to dissolve them. As a matter of fact those sites will be redesigned and re-launched at a later time. If anyone has any questions or concerns feel free to contact me art@adultlounge.com or ICQ:282499836 |viking|

So are you saying Art was lying? Misinformed? Did the company change their mind about those sites in the 12 days between posts?

You are obviously NOT a webmaster, because if you were, you'd understand how fucking annoying it is to change all your link codes to an affiliate program.

On March 19th, I went in & grabbed all the link codes because you had changed them (I don't know when because I didn't get the email or there wasn't an email sent) So then on April 12th you announce another change in the link codes & I go to grab the new ones. I find that there are 34 sites that were there 3 weeks before that have vanished form the affiliate admin without any notice from you. Can you honestly tell me that's not really fucking confusing?

I can understand that programs have to change codes from time to time, but I've had 3 sets of link codes with your program since I signed up 10 months ago. To me, that's just fucking annoying & I can't think of any of the other 350 programs that I promote that have changed their codes as much as you have and if they have, I doubt it was over a 10 month period.

Maybe we need to hear from Art as to why he posted what he did.

[urb]

You have to admit Raffi, that there is a little contradiction in the statements that Art made.

[AdultLoungeRaffi]

Originally Posted by urb

You have to admit Raffi, that there is a little contradiction in the statements that Art made.

Its all a big misunderstanding...

What Art meant by saying " removing it from the AdultLounge network " is that we wont have it available for new affiliates to promote, meaning they wont see new codes for it, meaning it wont be on the sites list of the AL homepage....but for everyone that already had the codes, it will still be good and work and thats why we didnt need to inform anyone.

The company never changed its mind, i guess it was all just a misunderstanding on how Art said it and how Greenguy understood it...

[MrMaryLou]

Changing codes is one thing but removing sites and not telling your webmasters is another And it looks to me the Raffi and Art are not even on the same page

[murray]

programs that change link codes and remove sites get instant delete on mega porn links. glad i never signed up, saves me deleting cheaters

[Tommy]

Wow, AdultLoungeRaffi getting stomped on the board again

[Ramster]

I've never tried AdultLounge at all so I have no beef but I have to say changing link codes 3 times in 10 months would be a huge pain in the ass!!!!!

Raffi, Greenguy might be the only one complaining publically but I can tell you that if I had to change link codes that often I would be very pissed!!! I understand trying to improve a program but changing link codes that often is a reason in itself to drop a program unless it sells like hotcakes.

And obviosuly Art made an error but it read to me that the codes would be useless soon too.

[RawAlex]

While I am not promoting this program, I would say that around the third change of link codes in a year I would pretty much be gone. Easier to just delete you stuff and move on than it is to try to follow. Having 30+ sites just disappear from a program without notice or indication is another great step that would surely inspire confidence.

There was an asian program I was promoting. In the period of a year, they went from this link to that link to that link... I admit, one of those was a good one (ibill fucked them) but by the third change, they lost me. Too bad, the sites are really nice sites, but I can't take the chance they will once again change the links and kill my revenue with them.

Things convert badly enough these days don't need to be sending clicks into ether.

Alex

[Greenguy]

Raffi - I think my biggest beef is that when you released Version 4.0 you didn't bother to mention that there were new link codes nor that those 34 sites were not going to be part of the program as they were in the past.

I'd bet that none of your affiliates are complaining like me because they don't know that the link codes have changed & because they think those 34 sites are still in the program the way they were prior to Version 4.0....and they don't know because no one at Adult Lounge bothered to tell them.

I don't think I'm alone in thinking that information like this should really be passed on to the affiliates.

[Jim]

The only thing that would bother me Rafi is not notifying webmasters of link changes. What was the thinking on that?

[Rocco]

didn't hear from some of those sponsors yet