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Old 2005-04-15, 12:46 PM   #1
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without spending quite a bit more then the target of $6K I would say it is almost impossible. If your going to start with a LL or TGP then be prepared to be an extremely small fish in a rather large and stormy pond. If you gonna go at it from the paysite own side then.......well, you have lost your mind......but if ya really want to do it from that side then the start up cost nessesary to generate the kind of interest in your program to interest affiliates is going to be monumental, not to mention the amount of time, planning and effort nessesary. for our new re release we started working on it in earnest in Dec 04 and did our release in Apr 05 (and two week late I might add) and we are still refining (read spending money) to make it as attractive as possible.
Money, money, and a lot of time.
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Old 2005-04-15, 01:46 PM   #2
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What do you mean fast? 1 month, 6 months or a year? You can start now and make $6k a month but you did not mention an acutal time frame. I don't know what fast to you means.

You will need to purchase a good bit of content. You will beeds to work hard and you will need to refine your graphic skills.

Selling AVS memberships can still be very profitable but you can't depend on them for the traffic any more but generating your own traffic can be profitable when selling an AVS.
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Old 2005-04-15, 02:32 PM   #3
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6000 $ is about 13 to 14 sales per day, if one sale is for 15 $. That doesnīt sound very much, but it is.

If your traffic converts 1 to 250 - and Iīm afraid most of the traffic doesnīt - youīll need 3500 visitors per day on your sponsorīs sites. Those visitors are not easy to get.

So the only way is to invest a lot of money. But where to invest it. If I would know where, I would do it, probably...
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Old 2005-04-15, 03:56 PM   #4
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If you want to make $6000/month easy... Start a paysite.

Only downside, a paysite requires previous comprehensive knowledge of the business and a good amount of startup funds.
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Old 2005-04-15, 04:28 PM   #5
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If you want to make $6000/month easy... Start a paysite.
How many paysites are making 6K/month after expenses? Not many.
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Old 2005-04-16, 03:14 AM   #6
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I can't wait until I earn 6K a month. Some people said it's not that hard to do - really? For someone new coming in without any capital? I've been at this around 18 months now, no capital, started part time, the usual story, and I reckon (read 'hope' ) I'll hit that target in another 12 months time.
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Old 2005-04-16, 08:19 AM   #7
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I reckon (read 'hope' ) I'll hit that target in another 12 months time.
I wonder how much US$ 6000 will be worth in pounds sterling in 12 months time? Probably less than three grand I would bet
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LOL! 6K a month! damn! I would suck midget tranny cock with a but plug up my ass all day for that kind of cash - LOL!

Like an idiot, I started my little pay site and 2 tgp's without knowing crap about this business. I'm really a photographer playing the role of webmaster as I do have some graphics/design skills. Since I know a bunch of models personally, I was able to get some content for free. So far I get about 2 or 3 sign ups per week - lol! So I guess this is just still an expensive hobby.

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Old 2005-04-16, 09:26 AM   #9
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I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
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Old 2005-04-16, 11:57 AM   #10
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I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
For a newbie, the only place left that can send good traffic and doesn't charge anything nor require a partner account is the Hun. I don't think it's possible for a newbie to get more than 50K hits daily to their galleries now without paying. So there's no way they can start off making 6K/month submitting galleries.
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Old 2005-04-16, 12:12 PM   #11
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I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
Convince me that it can be made.

I wonīt say it canīt, but itīs a matter of the tgp that you submit to. There are not many of them where a newbie can submit to and gets quality traffic in exchange.
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Old 2005-04-16, 05:57 PM   #12
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I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
I'm sure one could make quite a decent amount submitting and getting their gallery accepted everyday at Tommy's.

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Old 2005-04-22, 12:31 PM   #13
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I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
Even more could be made if part of it wasn't wasted on content.

When the affiliate programs give you free content, why buy?
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Even more could be made if part of it wasn't wasted on content.

When the affiliate programs give you free content, why buy?
Because unless you know the market very well you'll end up with over used affiliate content, won't be able to get partner accounts and won't get listed by many other places.
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Old 2005-04-16, 02:11 PM   #15
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Build and submit 5 tgp galleries a day (ie:richards takes 5 doesnt he still?) build at least 1 free site a day and submit. If LL will take more, do the maximum. Have tgp and link list sites of your own to link back to, where you also list the submitted ones for a fair trade.

Use custom banners and tours as much as possible. Have paysite reviews on your link pages, tons of text and personal recommendations etc.

Just get busy building like crazy and dont slack off and you can do well off the bat if your marketing is good.
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Just get busy building like crazy and dont slack off and you can do well off the bat if your marketing is good.
And what if your marketing sucks?
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Useless Warrior well then .....

I am sure in the used car lots around the world there are salesmen that make bank and there are salesmen that worry about putting food on the table

deleuze, so what..... apply for some partner accounts
I think partner accounts are great for the submitters,
it gives you a real chance of getting listed

frankthetank, I have a friend that does a lot of tgp submiting and 2 months ago he told me that he made 100k that month
I shit you not


Thank you Joe :-)
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Old 2005-04-17, 01:01 PM   #18
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deleuze, so what..... apply for some partner accounts
I think partner accounts are great for the submitters,
it gives you a real chance of getting listed
For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. That was my point - the only way a newbie has a chance to make significant money submitting galleries is by paying for the traffic and that isn't exactly a wise thing for someone inexperienced to do.
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Old 2005-04-17, 01:40 PM   #19
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[quote=deleuze]For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. QUOTE]

I would have to agree with this.

Why is it so hard for the newbies to make good money, even if your sites are comparable to the ones listed?

Because of all the scamming fucks that hide behind there computer screens in the comfort of there own home thinking it is ok to steal something from you cause you can't see them.
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Useless Warrior well then ..

frankthetank, I have a friend that does a lot of tgp submiting and 2 months ago he told me that he made 100k that month
I shit you not

Thank you Joe :-)
No, indeed not, not with tgpīs. Of course you can develop tgping - as you can develop every business. But the question was can you do it within short time.

So first you have to develop partner accounts which send decent traffic, then you have to handle your traffic amd I think that will take some time - but maybe Iīm wrong.

By the way: 100000 $ per month is a good amount of signups. Very nice work of that guy, congratulations.

How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I donīt think that you made such amount of money"?
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How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I donīt think that you made such amount of money"?
You need the whole phrase - "I shit you not" - it means "I am not making this up" or "I am telling the truth". We'll have to wait for Stuvelte to read this and translate into Dutch for you, I'm sure you must have an equivalent expression
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What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)
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What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)

Yes, references.. where to submit to? thatīs the most important question, I think.
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Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to pro
Trying to suppress the competition, eh?
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Old 2005-04-17, 07:51 PM   #25
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I think Pstar changed his/her mind about selling porn.

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