Who does non-adult sites as well - Page 2

terry · 2005-07-04, 08:28 AM

Im doing a couple of mainstream products. Tons of stuff is selling now like the ever popular pills (viagra etc), travel, self improvement, making money, etc. Good luck!

2msacras · 2005-07-04, 11:02 AM

I remember when I first started I looked for a book on the subject and found one that was ok. I really would've loved to have a good one that explained a lot of the basics, summarys of everything etc etc. All the information is on the internet but I would've loved to have it in one place, a book that I could keep going backt to. But then I'm a journalist by trade so maybe I like the written word better than the digital word.

Stever · 2005-07-04, 11:50 AM

Tommy,

It will still sell even though the free info is out there. Some will not know where to look for free. Some would rather have it all in one place to learn it quicker and some wont even know what they are buying or why.

Just a matter of how long it would take to put all your information down in one organized fashion. Is it worth your time?

Smutferret · 2005-07-04, 03:19 PM

It's my feeling that an adult webmastering book would sell well, especially if it was written by a successful and well known adult webmaster like Tommy.

I'm not sure how experienced you are at writing Tommy, but a ghostwriter could be a viable option if you wanted to pursue the idea and didn't feel confident in your own writing ability.

Regards,
SF

Stever · 2005-07-05, 03:08 AM

thanks to those sending pm's so far

NotThatKevin · 2005-07-06, 11:17 AM

My main stream sites are all in the jewelry biz.
http://www.4loosediamond.com
http://www.nationwidediamonds.com

We have a few more and each targets different keywords.

ladydesigner · 2005-07-06, 01:41 PM

I keep a main stream design site up for all those busy-body neighbors of mine that wonder what I do all day.
http://www.siennawebdesign.com

T Pat · 2005-07-06, 11:01 PM

Hey Stever
I've been spending most of my time lately on mainstream.
I have never admitted to anybody in the adult webmaster community before but I was TraderPat in mainstream for a couple years before adult. The reason It's so embarrassing to mention is for two years I was so busy pissing money away in 100 different directions that I didn't make any money or learn anything. Using what I learned on this board and On The Bench has made a world of difference this time around.
My advice to anybody with a mainstream site (I don't care if the subject is Harley's or your Cat's) is to use googles adsense for two reasons
1, you can use adsense as a tool to help you improve your site by seeing what the surfer is looking for.
2, with adsense you can place a value on all of your traffic I'm getting a 3.8% click through.
I love it there paying me and showing me how to improve my sites at the same time. Another thing I'm doing is filtering some of my adult site traffic down to my mainstream sites if there not going to buy from me I'd rather have them go off surfing something Google is going to pay me for than them hitting there back button and not getting anything.
Give me a few days and I'll be begging for hard link trades right now I'm working on two new sites and a Ezine article both sites are being designed with the intent to get high paying keyword adsense ads (I want some of that viagra money).
The reason I've come out of the closet on TraderPat is the article I'm writing is on the ethics of Adult Webmasters verses Main Stream Webmasters, going back into mainstream after my two year education from GGandJ I see things haven't changed a newbies best chance of getting fucked is still mainstream.

Stever · 2005-07-07, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Pat

The reason I've come out of the closet on TraderPat is the article I'm writing is on the ethics of Adult Webmasters verses Main Stream Webmasters, going back into mainstream after my two year education from GGandJ I see things haven't changed a newbies best chance of getting fucked is still mainstream.

Can't wait to read that article.

pm sent. (well, sending after this reply is submitted)

N J · 2005-07-07, 01:47 PM

Do some realestate with a friend on the french riviera, but nothing where I directly sell products online.

rollergirl · 2005-07-07, 08:05 PM

I've had some mainstream sites on the back burner for quite sometime. I really, really want to devote time to it and get it fired up. I'm book marking this thread for future reference.

misty3k · 2005-07-07, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stever

I've been neglecting my adult site the past couple weeks while i build a few mainstream projects.

Who here does mainstream as well and want to exchange some ideas or even link exchanges?

chat by pm might be best probably.

I've pretty much abandoned my adult sites to concentrate on mainstream. Right now, I have some links sites that I am trying to form into something like a mainstream tgp niche thingy.

giftfinder4u

and

BestOnlineCasinos4U

also have a ringtone (and more) site. Gotta get a links page up for that one:

HighLifeRingtones

Getting traffic is so much more challenging than with an adult site, but I'm hoping things get easier, the more work I do on the sites. Looking forward to seeing how Christmas affects the giftfinder site.

Rui · 2005-07-10, 03:34 PM

I'm currently focusing on mainstream and am working on 4 different markets

Diversification is key

Will tell you how it worked out in 6 months

GunnCat · 2005-07-10, 04:00 PM

We do mainstream webdesign and content management, but with the amount of cms/portal software out these days it's not hard for anyone with db skills to be able to do a decent job setting up a self maintaining site.
I had a few ideas concerning marketing and selling (homemade)BBQ products (rubs, sauces, etc...) setting up the logistics and so forth, but I haven't persued it much.

ponyman · 2005-07-10, 06:31 PM

I got a question for those of you doing mainstream as well.

I have a bunch of adult domains on the same ip. Would there be any issues putting a mainstream site on the same ip? Could someone do a whois serach or something and find all of the adult domains? I'd like to keep things separate.

Also, what are some good commission rates to look for with mainstream sites/products?

neveremail · 2005-07-13, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyman

I got a question for those of you doing mainstream as well.

I have a bunch of adult domains on the same ip. Would there be any issues putting a mainstream site on the same ip? Could someone do a whois serach or something and find all of the adult domains? I'd like to keep things separate.

Also, what are some good commission rates to look for with mainstream sites/products?

In general having sites on IP mybe a bad idea - its possible that it can have a negatove effect on your SE renkings and may become more important in the future.

If you dont want ppl linking your adult site to your mainstream site then I would get them off that same IP - and possibly on different nameservers too if the nameserver it is currently on is mainly used for adult.

Smutferret · 2005-07-10, 07:17 PM

Hey ponyman,

Yes, someone could use whois.sc and get a list of all the sites on your ip.

As far as issues go, I guess it would depend on what kind of main stream site you were running and if it would be a problem if your target market knew about the adult sites.

Regards,
SF

nottslad · 2005-07-10, 11:48 PM

I have been in mainstream for almost 3 years, travel sites - tours, hotel reservations, message board etc. Have been dabbling with adult on and off for the last 8 months or so but now am looking at expanding in that direction more seriously. Been doing some freesites and dare I say there may well be yet another newbies link list coming soon.

The difference between adult and mainstream in terms of how willing people are to share their strategies and secrets and the networking involved is absolutely staggering. There simply is no other equivalent to this board in the travel game.

alessandro · 2005-07-13, 09:21 AM

I'm also an adult wm who's looking to open some mainstream domains. I've been studying several mainstream niches/markets/keywords to target and I think I got around 2 who may be easier to penetrate.
What I don't like at mainstream affiliate companies is the fact that ALL I found until now pay by check and only once a month.
I'd love to see an affiliate company/network who's paying it's affiliates via epassporte, moneybookers or ikobo. Btw, if anyone knows of something like this, please share it here or PM.

Surfn · 2005-07-13, 11:35 AM

I was in mainstream internet before coming to the adult side in 95. I still have too much work consulting on non-adult sites...

tickler · 2005-07-13, 03:50 PM

Anybody know a good shopping portal for traffic?

Currently trying to convince a client to let me suggest products for birthdays, anniversaries, etc. based on users personalized calendar DBs that track those things for them.

Also I generally try to pick up assorted products to go along with the adult sites. Like latex requires special maintenance, and there are also lotions and powders to be used when wearing it.

natalie · 2005-07-13, 05:29 PM

I have some mainstream and if you have related we may be able to trade links. Atm the niches are crafts, photography, adult toys (yeah i know not exactly mainstream), time related (ie sunrise, moon times etc) Pm me if you have related ones.

Jringo · 2005-07-19, 09:21 PM

99% of all Our online income is from mainstream but still keeping in mind that "Sex sells".... sites that would fall into something like "Maxim" magazine..... personals do well.....selling Your own products does well........ We just slowly have gotten out of giving away others free porn, except those that have made us money since 98.......

Mister13 · 2005-07-19, 11:21 PM

I have a mainstream site http://www.houstonvehicles.com and www.muzicfreedom.com (Still developing) , sadly dealing with porn and the evil 2257 is sometimes easier than dealing with PR firms of gaming companies.

Sarah_Jayne · 2005-07-20, 05:16 AM

I do but to be honest I need to do more...if only I had more hours in the day.

2005-07-04, 08:28 AM	#1
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	Im doing a couple of mainstream products. Tons of stuff is selling now like the ever popular pills (viagra etc), travel, self improvement, making money, etc. Good luck! __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2005-07-04, 11:50 AM	#3
Stever Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 208	Tommy, It will still sell even though the free info is out there. Some will not know where to look for free. Some would rather have it all in one place to learn it quicker and some wont even know what they are buying or why. Just a matter of how long it would take to put all your information down in one organized fashion. Is it worth your time? __________________ <a href="http://www.fioramall.com/click/sponsor.php?kw_userid=Stever"><img src="http://www.steverslinks.com/images/fiora.gif"</a>

2005-07-04, 03:19 PM	#4
Smutferret No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MA, USA Posts: 231	It's my feeling that an adult webmastering book would sell well, especially if it was written by a successful and well known adult webmaster like Tommy. I'm not sure how experienced you are at writing Tommy, but a ghostwriter could be a viable option if you wanted to pursue the idea and didn't feel confident in your own writing ability. Regards, SF __________________ Pornication Web Cams TGPX by JMB Software

2005-07-05, 03:08 AM	#5
Stever Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 208	thanks to those sending pm's so far __________________ <a href="http://www.fioramall.com/click/sponsor.php?kw_userid=Stever"><img src="http://www.steverslinks.com/images/fiora.gif"</a>

2005-07-06, 11:17 AM	#6
NotThatKevin Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 155	My main stream sites are all in the jewelry biz. http://www.4loosediamond.com http://www.nationwidediamonds.com We have a few more and each targets different keywords. __________________ <a href="http://www.pgbucks.com"><img src="http://www.pgbucks.com/images/pgbucks.jpg" width="120" height="60" border="0" align="left"></a><br><br><br> <a href="http://www.pgbucks.com">14 Paysites for One Great Price + FHG </a>

2005-07-04, 11:02 AM	#2
2msacras The sun? That's the hottest place on Earth Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 394	I remember when I first started I looked for a book on the subject and found one that was ok. I really would've loved to have a good one that explained a lot of the basics, summarys of everything etc etc. All the information is on the internet but I would've loved to have it in one place, a book that I could keep going backt to. But then I'm a journalist by trade so maybe I like the written word better than the digital word.

2005-07-06, 01:41 PM	#7
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	I keep a main stream design site up for all those busy-body neighbors of mine that wonder what I do all day. http://www.siennawebdesign.com __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2005-07-06, 11:01 PM	#8
T Pat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paridise Posts: 3,244	Hey Stever I've been spending most of my time lately on mainstream. I have never admitted to anybody in the adult webmaster community before but I was TraderPat in mainstream for a couple years before adult. The reason It's so embarrassing to mention is for two years I was so busy pissing money away in 100 different directions that I didn't make any money or learn anything. Using what I learned on this board and On The Bench has made a world of difference this time around. My advice to anybody with a mainstream site (I don't care if the subject is Harley's or your Cat's) is to use googles adsense for two reasons 1, you can use adsense as a tool to help you improve your site by seeing what the surfer is looking for. 2, with adsense you can place a value on all of your traffic I'm getting a 3.8% click through. I love it there paying me and showing me how to improve my sites at the same time. Another thing I'm doing is filtering some of my adult site traffic down to my mainstream sites if there not going to buy from me I'd rather have them go off surfing something Google is going to pay me for than them hitting there back button and not getting anything. Give me a few days and I'll be begging for hard link trades right now I'm working on two new sites and a Ezine article both sites are being designed with the intent to get high paying keyword adsense ads (I want some of that viagra money). The reason I've come out of the closet on TraderPat is the article I'm writing is on the ethics of Adult Webmasters verses Main Stream Webmasters, going back into mainstream after my two year education from GGandJ I see things haven't changed a newbies best chance of getting fucked is still mainstream. __________________ How To Keep An Asshole In Suspense I'll Tell You Later

2005-07-07, 01:47 PM	#10
N J Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 128	Do some realestate with a friend on the french riviera, but nothing where I directly sell products online.

2005-07-07, 08:05 PM	#11
rollergirl I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 82	I've had some mainstream sites on the back burner for quite sometime. I really, really want to devote time to it and get it fired up. I'm book marking this thread for future reference.

2005-07-10, 03:34 PM	#13
Rui WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Europe - €€€ land! Posts: 48	I'm currently focusing on mainstream and am working on 4 different markets Diversification is key Will tell you how it worked out in 6 months __________________ www.teendolls.com

2005-07-10, 04:00 PM	#14
GunnCat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 547	We do mainstream webdesign and content management, but with the amount of cms/portal software out these days it's not hard for anyone with db skills to be able to do a decent job setting up a self maintaining site. I had a few ideas concerning marketing and selling (homemade)BBQ products (rubs, sauces, etc...) setting up the logistics and so forth, but I haven't persued it much.

2005-07-10, 06:31 PM	#15
ponyman Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 422	I got a question for those of you doing mainstream as well. I have a bunch of adult domains on the same ip. Would there be any issues putting a mainstream site on the same ip? Could someone do a whois serach or something and find all of the adult domains? I'd like to keep things separate. Also, what are some good commission rates to look for with mainstream sites/products?

2005-07-10, 07:17 PM	#17
Smutferret No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MA, USA Posts: 231	Hey ponyman, Yes, someone could use whois.sc and get a list of all the sites on your ip. As far as issues go, I guess it would depend on what kind of main stream site you were running and if it would be a problem if your target market knew about the adult sites. Regards, SF __________________ Pornication Web Cams TGPX by JMB Software

2005-07-10, 11:48 PM	#18
nottslad Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 107	I have been in mainstream for almost 3 years, travel sites - tours, hotel reservations, message board etc. Have been dabbling with adult on and off for the last 8 months or so but now am looking at expanding in that direction more seriously. Been doing some freesites and dare I say there may well be yet another newbies link list coming soon. The difference between adult and mainstream in terms of how willing people are to share their strategies and secrets and the networking involved is absolutely staggering. There simply is no other equivalent to this board in the travel game.

2005-07-13, 09:21 AM	#19
alessandro I don't have to be careful. I got a gun Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The 3rd planet from the sun :) Posts: 365	I'm also an adult wm who's looking to open some mainstream domains. I've been studying several mainstream niches/markets/keywords to target and I think I got around 2 who may be easier to penetrate. What I don't like at mainstream affiliate companies is the fact that ALL I found until now pay by check and only once a month. I'd love to see an affiliate company/network who's paying it's affiliates via epassporte, moneybookers or ikobo. Btw, if anyone knows of something like this, please share it here or PM.

2005-07-13, 11:35 AM	#20
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I was in mainstream internet before coming to the adult side in 95. I still have too much work consulting on non-adult sites... __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2005-07-13, 03:50 PM	#21
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	Anybody know a good shopping portal for traffic? Currently trying to convince a client to let me suggest products for birthdays, anniversaries, etc. based on users personalized calendar DBs that track those things for them. Also I generally try to pick up assorted products to go along with the adult sites. Like latex requires special maintenance, and there are also lotions and powders to be used when wearing it. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-07-13, 05:29 PM	#22
natalie Whoo! 9/10 the way to buddy plays in "The Christ from Oz"! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 921	I have some mainstream and if you have related we may be able to trade links. Atm the niches are crafts, photography, adult toys (yeah i know not exactly mainstream), time related (ie sunrise, moon times etc) Pm me if you have related ones. __________________ No 2257 woes with Retroraunch Submit to my Punani And my Pink Pussy

2005-07-19, 09:21 PM	#23
Jringo Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 27	99% of all Our online income is from mainstream but still keeping in mind that "Sex sells".... sites that would fall into something like "Maxim" magazine..... personals do well.....selling Your own products does well........ We just slowly have gotten out of giving away others free porn, except those that have made us money since 98.......

2005-07-19, 11:21 PM	#24
Mister13 A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 51	I have a mainstream site http://www.houstonvehicles.com and www.muzicfreedom.com (Still developing) , sadly dealing with porn and the evil 2257 is sometimes easier than dealing with PR firms of gaming companies. __________________ -13 Affordable Adult Hosting Give them A Pants-Tent -Submit To "Porn-Folder"

2005-07-20, 05:16 AM	#25
Sarah_Jayne I hustle for Hustler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 526	I do but to be honest I need to do more...if only I had more hours in the day. __________________ HustlerCash.com Affiliate Manager ICQ: 232834291 \| Skype: sjayne76