Trade shows, why don't we let in the general public?

[RawAlex]

grandma, there are any number of fools (especially younger) with a bit of money and a desire to be a "pimp" or a "playah" or whatever they are calling it this week. They live in their mom's basement but drive a leased mercedez with overpriced rims and wear oversized basketball shirts and "party madly". They really believe that they got the life. It is funny to spot them at shows, mostly because they are usually gone by the next show.

Alessandro, just like any business, I don't think it is YOU that the surfers would want to meet, but rather to be exposed to your product. So that would mean probably a decent booth, some booth bunnies, some give aways, promotional materials, CDs with free logons, whatever. I don't think a row of webmasters sitting in chairs signing autographs for the fans would bring in many people...

This sort of thing might start to happen if the programs ever feel that they can market themselves directly better than they can through the affiliate system.

Alex

[Trev]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

grandma, there are any number of fools (especially younger) with a bit of money and a desire to be a "pimp" or a "playah" or whatever they are calling it this week. They live in their mom's basement but drive a leased mercedez with overpriced rims and wear oversized basketball shirts and "party madly". They really believe that they got the life. It is funny to spot them at shows, mostly because they are usually gone by the next show.

"Still Fly" by BIG TYMERS

[Baby :]
Whats up Fresh , its our turn baby

Gator Boots, with the pimped out Gucci suit
Ain't got no job, but I stay sharp
Can't pay my rent, cause all my money's spent
but thats ok, cause im still fly
got a quarter tank gas in my new E-class
But that's alright cause i'm gon' ride
got everything in my momma's name
but im hood rich da dada dada da

[alessandro]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Alessandro, just like any business, I don't think it is YOU that the surfers would want to meet, but rather to be exposed to your product. So that would mean probably a decent booth, some booth bunnies, some give aways, promotional materials, CDs with free logons, whatever. I don't think a row of webmasters sitting in chairs signing autographs for the fans would bring in many people...

Not the big red eyes guys ( from the nights spent in front of the computer building pages, galleries, free sites, submitting etc. ) would be the attraction, not even for autographs as you say

[Greenguy]

Paul - you know what the problem is? You're asking this question on the wrong board. There are not a lot of program owners that are regular posters here on the board & of those, I can't think of too many that have a name/personality that surfers would want to meet. The one that I can think of that has a remote association to this board is jaYMan Cash & Raven Riley.

You've got to realize that you're asking a group of webmasters that, for the most part, work out of their house, building link lists & tgp's & free sites & galleries & helping/running the occasional paysite program where there is no big name associated to it.

You might get a favorable response over at Lightspeed's Solo Girl board, but in the end, I still think it's a stupid idea

[docholly]

Since Comdex folded here a couple of years ago, they have replaced the Adultdex with something called "Adultcon" which runs at the same time and across the street from the SEMA show, the automotive afterparts show. What is funny is to see the quick migration of girls that are holding hub caps in the SEMA show run in their 5" spiked heels across the street to the Rivera and be in their bikini in time to 'sign' autographs to the schmucks that pay 35.00 per person to see them.

Yes a case can be made that AVN is an adult extention of CES but truthfully AVN wants the 130K locked in audience that looks at digital widgets for 2 hours then rushes over to look at hot porn stars for the other 6. You can bet that a large % of those CES attendees rush home to their computers and google the name of the chick they just saw "in person" maybe join the website or maybe not, maybe buy a video, maybe not. And for the 10-20K whatever the exhibitor spent on their cost for the 3 days of AVN, think how much that money could have bought in google key words or other online advertising to meet the millions surfing the web.

....and if you mean by "in the life" that the people you associate with everyday in real time are also in the business count me in. I have no real life friends that aren't involved in the adult industry.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Paul - you know what the problem is? You're asking this question on the wrong board. There are not a lot of program owners that are regular posters here on the board & of those, I can't think of too many that have a name/personality that surfers would want to meet. The one that I can think of that has a remote association to this board is jaYMan Cash & Raven Riley.

You've got to realize that you're asking a group of webmasters that, for the most part, work out of their house, building link lists & tgp's & free sites & galleries & helping/running the occasional paysite program where there is no big name associated to it.

You might get a favorable response over at Lightspeed's Solo Girl board, but in the end, I still think it's a stupid idea

On this you have a point. In fact I think this is true of 99% of the industry. But I will let you buy me a beer when the 1% do it.

Lightspeed, Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Private, Vivid, Wicked, Evil Angel, Girls Gone Wild, Paul Markham, Bang Bros are names that come to mind immediately.

Nothing wrong though with the 1,000 who work from home. I was this morning.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

...Lightspeed, Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Private, Vivid, Wicked, Evil Angel, Girls Gone Wild, Paul Markham, Bang Bros are names that come to mind immediately...

Most, if not all of those names are already at the big AVN show where the general public has access to them, so why would they want to put up another booth at a different convention at the same hotel/venue?

[docholly]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Most, if not all of those names are already at the big AVN show where the general public has access to them, so why would they want to put up another booth at a different convention at the same hotel/venue?

10 out of 11 do..the other one

[Papa]

No surfers allowed !!!!!
Biz persons only. Anyways, some joesurfer's always get in here and there.

It should remain as it is.

[Toby]

I think the biggest point that hasn't been clearly stated in this thread is that there is a HUGE difference between adult models that only do online, and those that do production video for retail distribution. The latter are what most of us would consider to be Pornstars, public appearances is part of the job. The former may not be as comfortable being face to face with John Q, assuming that she's even a big enough name to draw attention.

[Greenguy]

docholly & emma got me thinking about this & I have a theory.

AVN's AEE show in Vegas allows the general public to come to the show & Internext doesn't. I have no hard numbers, but I'd bet that the cost of getting a booth at the AEE show is a lot more than the cost of getting a booth at Internext.

I think someone wants to pay the Internext booth prices & get access to the general public that you get when you have buy booth at AEE