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2006-10-14, 08:17 PM
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Lord help me, I'm just not that bright
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Zango on /.
Zango Under Fire From Adult Webmasters
Some interesting posts there... aparently many people feel that it's ok to steal in some cases. 
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2006-10-14, 09:59 PM
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Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push.
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Reminds me of the way so many people turned a blind eye when some passionate new power monger proposed eliminating the weaker members of society so everyone else could flourish... by the time the rest of the world was ready to cry out in protest, too many had already been killed...
 ... Nother thread about Zango, in case anyone missed it: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=35146
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2006-10-15, 02:52 AM
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Lord help me, I'm just not that bright
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 Everything about this crap should be kept up on top for everyone to get pissed off about every day IMO.  I started building and submitting sites very recently but I've been planing to get into this for a long time, and I've invested a LOT of time for virtually nothing so far! But that's fine... I have no problems with working for nothin' as long as I believe that it'll EVENTUALLY pay off... and I suspect that many, if not most, people who're getting into this feel the same way. However, If I would have had the slightest idea of what these mother fucking Zango kind of leaches are doing, I probably wouldn't have bothered with any of it... MY bad!!! And why the hell would some SPONSORS be on board with this?? That's GOT to be counterproductive in the long run... starving your affiliates like this, no? But maybe they're not in it for the long run.. huh? What I can't believe is that it's been going on somewhat since 2004 and it's getting lots of attention just now?.. or is it? How could I have missed it? I've been reading boards for a long time! There should be riots i every city and village of every nation on our dear globe by now!  Like you said virgohippy: Quote:
 So for all you vets with greater power and bigger brains, let me know where to sign up for the rally and I'm there... I'll even bring my own pitchfork! Btw, I found a post by SmokeyTheBear over at gfy.com with an idea of how to beat Zango. I've been doing some experimenting with it since last night but as I don't have a whole hell of a lot of traffic, I can't really say if it'll make a difference so far.. Did anyone else with some substantial amount of traffic see and try this solution yet? http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=zango     |chainsaw|Am I overreacting?
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2006-10-15, 04:44 AM
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Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push.
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Interesting idea... but if tactics like this are used wide scale then ultimately it'll just become a pissing match between coders as Zango adapts to webmaster tactics, and webmasters adapt to Zango adaptations... and the surfers still potentially suffer from yet even slower load times, more security holes, and non-loading pages.
Another thing too: as a matter of principle, Zango shouldn't be able to grab one dime the way they do, but it seems like a lot of webmasters who indicated this is the first time they've become fully aware of the issue almost immediately implied Zango is the reason. Let me go on record saying that I blame my lack of recent productivity on my far too long interlude from the fresh freesite crafting game.  And no, I don't think you're overreacting. You're venting your frustration on a public forum... that's healthy. If you bought a gun and a plane ticket then I'd say you might be overracting. 
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2006-10-15, 08:07 AM
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I can now put whatever I want in this space
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I doubt that Zango affiliates have stolen any of my sales, but it's hard not to point the finger when your numbers look so bad compared to previous months. The idea that another webmaster can simply muscle in on a sale that I'd generated is enough to make my blood boil, but the first person I'm looking at regarding bad ratios is me. Interesting reading on GFY, and I see that Legendary Lars has made a statement and has taken some stick about it. |
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2006-10-15, 08:35 AM
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The sun? That's the hottest place on Earth
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The best thing that could have happened was this getting the attention it's now getting. Some things will change. Most likely the sponsors that have been secretly using Zango will probably decrease from the heat they are now receiving.
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2006-10-15, 02:03 PM
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Solipsists of the world unite
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I know they're not the only ones involved - but your site is something of a litmus paper. |
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2006-10-15, 07:47 AM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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We are not so big masters, but if we can do something with this shit post here our actions, please. This is a real EVIL for all webmasters and we have to fight together everywhere at any time, i think.
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2006-10-15, 01:58 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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hello i'm new there (not US or UK so forgive about my bad english)
although i work in X biz for over 4 years now i just saw my sales were ... slow and traffic higher so i went on one of my sponsor's board and saw a link to there i realized i was affiliate at LOUDCASH two years ago ( just tried it like two months and stopped it, it sucked and in fact i did not like te whole process, anyway ....) and now i see that LOUDCASH became ZANGO CASH ... so by reading this thread i had a versy special feeling down my spine ... tried to go to loudcash and get in my "used-to-be-loudcash" account but "userd id is disabled" don't know if i'm really in trouble with this i mean : i don't run a freesite, i just post gals to TGPs, do you think these guys can suck my traffic and links ? anyway these kind of methods really piss me off, i hope they' ll be taken down in any possible way |
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2006-10-15, 03:06 PM
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You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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LARS WAS FORCED!!!
FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!!! |
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2006-10-15, 03:39 PM
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Solipsists of the world unite
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2006-10-15, 03:48 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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Zanga stupid bitch. I fuck his moyher in the ass.
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2006-10-15, 03:50 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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mistake, "mother"
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2006-10-15, 03:54 PM
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Solipsists of the world unite
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Hmmm
crackerseb = berserk cac analgetic = anal getic (it doesn't get any better) |
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2006-10-15, 06:46 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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*** I AM RUSSIAN CHEATER, FUCKING SHIT ***
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2006-10-15, 06:47 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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Sorry for my brocken english
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2006-10-15, 07:39 PM
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Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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Analgetic and eman - your posts are offtopic, please stop it.
I think that some of these methods can work: 1) Contact all antispyware software creators and ask them to make an update to delete this shit. It would be good to make Microsoft to delete Zango too in their windows updates, but I'm afraid it's impossible. 2) Ask big adverts like myspace do not promote Zango. 3) Ask sponsors do not pay Zango. |
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2006-10-16, 12:14 AM
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If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste!
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Ask all SEs to not link to sites that install this garbage.
Ask all hosting companies to auto-delete the malware. |
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2006-10-16, 04:20 AM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Use warning messages on our resources like: ZangaToolbar spying for you or Zanga steals money or Zanga eats you traffic or anything else The surfers must afraids to install or to have this ware
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2006-10-18, 12:11 AM
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If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste!
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Since these thiefs bring no new traffic to the sponsor:
It would only take one thief buying out a sponsors links, to cause a massive decline in traffic for the sponsor, as affiliates move to greener pastures. |
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2006-10-20, 08:29 PM
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Eighteen 'til I Die
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2006-10-20, 08:58 PM
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Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push.
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"Zango serves ads based on a consumer’s Internet use and search activity from browsing, including keywords from the websites a consumer visits." So first you read my page and deliver an ad based on what sponsors/ads I have on my pages... "Bruzzese claims Zango does not in any way overwrite cookies that are tagged with affiliate ID codes." But there's no cookie to overwrite because the surfer never went through my link because you read my page and sent the surfer to my sponsor first but with your id instead of mine... Bruzzese, was this response supposed to reassure me, as an affiliate, that you're not stealing from me? Because all I see is that you've confirmed exactly how you go about doing it.
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2006-10-20, 10:31 PM
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Lord help me, I'm just not that bright
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wow, I feel so much better now that he explained it all............ So he's totally ignoring webmasters concerns and is thus pretty much saying that, yeah, we're screwing sponsor affiliates deep and hard... but consumers are happy cos they're getting all the fucking ads they were so hoping and expecting to get..
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2006-10-21, 06:50 AM
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NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them.
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After seeing this and reading the article I see that we need a three pronged approach
First - naming any sponsor that supports this or benefits in any way from this activity - and I believe we should start a thread right here to do it. Second - and I will take the lead on this one - delete any sponsor that is confirmed to support this from all sites Third - and again I will try to take the lead here on this - work with a programmer to defeat this the same way we did with the MSN problem that did the same thing - if anyone wants to work with me on this one I will try to make sure there is some sort of compensation involved |
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2006-10-21, 08:22 AM
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NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them.
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Also noted that there are advertisers on this board that do take part in this venture so it will be up to the board mods to decide whether to pull any posts that may be made involving those sponsors
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