Zango? - Page 3

Greenguy · 2006-10-21, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

Also noted that there are advertisers on this board that do take part in this venture so it will be up to the board mods to decide whether to pull any posts that may be made involving those sponsors

Jim & I will be addressing this issue on Monday.

SheepGuy · 2006-10-21, 06:33 PM

[quote=Linkster;307630]
First - naming any sponsor that supports this or benefits in any way from this activity - and I believe we should start a thread right here to do it.
Second - and I will take the lead on this one - delete any sponsor that is confirmed to support this from all sites
/QUOTE]

My knowledge of programming is limited to say the most, but I will definitely dump any sponsors using this crap, and will post on my submit page saying that I will not allow submissions for sites promoting sponsors who use this crap.
But where can I find a list of sponsors using Zango or similar?

plateman · 2006-10-21, 07:02 PM

if zango keeps growing users, eventually there will no longer be a need for the webmaster or any webmaster boards...

I bust my ass trying to hit the right SEO on my LL, and the spammers and scammers walk there way right through google and knock all my listing out, and it dont take a genius to see they are flat out robbing us...

And its certain sponsors who knowingly take there traffic, even after they been reported, if they would close there accounts down, a lot less would spam as there's no one to pay them...

I been reading other boards about zango and from what I read a whole shit load of site owners are ready to fight, tgp LL owners and so on...

when this list is shown and confirmed any sites with sponsor content on them, I hope I can leave them and never ever promote them again and delete all links on my LL's and drop all trades to other LL's When they know that program is a zango cheater...

also I would never post on any boards that advertise any zango sponsors or click on any ads or sign up to any other programs on there board....

I am barely scrapping by and to hear what zango and some sponsors do is mind boggling, a lot I talk to mostly say how bad sales are and click throughs are to for them...

I am not no king producing traffic god but put a few 1000s of webmasters who think like me and others and the message may get accross

EzRyder · 2006-10-22, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

After seeing this and reading the article I see that we need a three pronged approach
First - naming any sponsor that supports this or benefits in any way from this activity - and I believe we should start a thread right here to do it.
Second - and I will take the lead on this one - delete any sponsor that is confirmed to support this from all sites
Third - and again I will try to take the lead here on this - work with a programmer to defeat this the same way we did with the MSN problem that did the same thing - if anyone wants to work with me on this one I will try to make sure there is some sort of compensation involved

I'm in also!

My traffic is up but clicks are way, way down to sponsors and signups, well, in 8 years this is the worst period I have ever had saleswise.

DangerDave · 2006-10-21, 04:18 PM

- I am 100% with Linkster on this one... and will also kill any sponsor confirmed on the list.

In my opinion we should also "out" the sponsors that support SE spammers and the webmasters that use install/codec program like VideosCash

.. but Zango is a good place to start...

DD

Jel · 2006-10-22, 05:21 AM

Count me in. I'll gladly state on my submission pages that sites with sponsor xyz will not be accepted if it's proved they support this zango fiasco, and will yank any links down of my own, and swap freesites including content if necessary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

- I am 100% with Linkster on this one... and will also kill any sponsor confirmed on the list.

In my opinion we should also "out" the sponsors that support SE spammers and the webmasters that use install/codec program like VideosCash

.. but Zango is a good place to start...

DD

Agreed also - I recently had a bunch of shit from a large sponsor when I pointed out an affiliate was scraping my sites to rank for phrases (including my domainname.tld) and redirecting straight to them, and was given the usual BS we'll warn the affiliate yadda yadda yadda. Unsurprisingly after a few days new domains cropped up from the same aff, same technique, same BS answer. Anyway, geting off track slightly so I'll shut up, but again, count me in to do whatever is necessary :thumb

tickler · 2006-10-22, 01:17 AM

Don't miss this page there either:
http://www.benedelman.org/cookiestuf...ch-110404.html

Code:

<IMG border='0' width='1' height='1' src='http://www.qksrv.net/click-1515738-8066398'>

Looks like you can stuff cookies across domains by burying the link in a 1x1 pixel.

iMan · 2006-10-22, 05:44 AM

I'm thrilled to see that you big beards (or experienced small stubs) are doing something about this

I'm just a peeon pissing my pants of excitement to see that the zango daemon might, by the power of ALL, be brought to his crusefiction... and that in the span of MY porno lifetime

I've got 'bout 10-20 sponsors (a bunch on the same CCBill account so I'm not sure if those counts as a separate ones..)
But Linkster, How can I know if the sponsors I promote is on the long and impressive list of zango sponsors?
I've looked everywhere on zangcash's site and I can't find any list what so ever... do I need to sign up with this vermin to be able to access all this info?
Is there any chance that I could somehow get this list anyway?
I'd HATE to be building sites for dirty ass sponsors without knowing!

Thanks!

eman · 2006-10-22, 10:50 AM

As far as I can tell my sites are now clean of any direct links to AFF/LL. FWIW I've never promoted sexsearch.

I'll gladly remove links to any other sponsors as and when they are implicated in the zango bid-fest.

I have a very loyal base of surfers and I will not knowingly betray their trust.

Simon · 2006-10-22, 12:53 PM

Jim, that movie won't play for me but I poked around the 1source4.info site and found this page talking about Netflix and BestBuy...

http://www.1source4.info/0504-hb2-netflix/netflix.html

--
(edit: ... which I now realize was already posted in this thread but since I can't delete this post I'll just make it longer.)
--

Maybe the .wmv file shows something else, but the html page talks about how both BestBuy and Netflix are both being stolen from in their example.

Platinum Dave · 2006-10-22, 02:44 PM

Great thread, where do I get an install to test if this company is stealing any traffic from my sites.

I have heard stuff about a dozen spy ware companies stealing traffic,
I always never believed it until I saw that link.

http://www.teamclickcash.com/tmp/jayxxxlinks.html

Now I need to start serious investigations Monday morning.

GonZo · 2006-10-23, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

Great thread, where do I get an install to test if this company is stealing any traffic from my sites.

I have heard stuff about a dozen spy ware companies stealing traffic,
I always never believed it until I saw that link.

http://www.teamclickcash.com/tmp/jayxxxlinks.html

Now I need to start serious investigations Monday morning.

Dave....

Not sure if youve seen this or not but I figured Id make you aware of it.

http://www.platinumdork.com

Platinum Dave · 2006-10-23, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo

Dave....

Not sure if youve seen this or not but I figured Id make you aware of it.

http://www.platinumdork.com

Yes I saw that, it was Mayor who created that site.

Platinum Dave · 2006-10-23, 11:29 AM

Don't forget the other site http://www.platinumdave.com

some people have to much time on their hands.

GonZo · 2006-10-24, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

Yes I saw that, it was Mayor who created that site.

Sure has been a lot of strange marketing coming out of this industry as of late. Lawsuits...defamatory web pages... it often makes me wonder what sponsors go around saying about each other.

I guess we have a good example with this Melissa Midwest lawsuit from those guys.

Poor marketing...almost as poor as the "leaked" Jordan Capri Honeymoon video.

Sexvilly · 2006-10-24, 02:19 PM

do you know you can actually check if your site has Zango infected users or not?

go to your WebAlizer / AwStat and watch Browsers, Zango infected users look like this Mozilla5.0;ZangoTlbr

this from russian forum, one guy had out of 9000 visitors 2000 (or was it 2%?) infected with Zango. I know many russians have CJ traffic where differen spyware is popular. they trade traffic between each other so all get infected surfers. check your stat if you have any. if you don't trade with CJ or TGP where this also popular no reason to worry then?

eman · 2006-10-24, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

do you know you can actually check if your site has Zango infected users or not?

go to your WebAlizer / AwStat and watch Browsers, Zango infected users look like this Mozilla5.0;ZangoTlbr

this from russian forum, one guy had out of 9000 visitors 2000 (or was it 2%?) infected with Zango. I know many russians have CJ traffic where differen spyware is popular. they trade traffic between each other so all get infected surfers. check your stat if you have any. if you don't trade with CJ or TGP where this also popular no reason to worry then?

Good tip

I've never paid too much attention to that section of my stats.

My stats list just the top 15 browsers and there's no sign of Zango but over 5% of the browers are infected with Fun Web Products stuff.

If zango does feature at all it will represent less than 1% of my surfers.

kenny · 2006-10-24, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman

Good tip

I've never paid too much attention to that section of my stats.

My stats list just the top 15 browsers and there's no sign of Zango but over 5% of the browers are infected with Fun Web Products stuff.

If zango does feature at all it will represent less than 1% of my surfers.

I got the funweb problem too.

What the hell is that?

Platinum Dave · 2006-10-25, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper

I got the funweb problem too.

What the hell is that?

Fun web products is Smiley Central, maybe they changed their policy because they decided it's time to make money.

Linkster · 2006-10-25, 06:14 PM

If I remember correctly funwebproducts is distributed by ask(ask jeeves) and most spyware programs treat it as spyware - it also installs 13 other applications when it loads including specific search toolbars that pop ads, although they claim that none of it is "malware". Thye are covered by their TOS but just a smost toolbar installs - its what comes with it that hurts the most

EzRyder · 2006-10-24, 04:41 PM

According to Fun Web Products web site:

http://help.funwebproducts.com/webmaster.html

Fun Web Products:

Does NOT "spider" websites
Does NOT contain any malicious software
Does NOT collect any personal information
Does NOT monitor the sites visited
Does NOT monitor behavior on the Internet
Does NOT log or track keystrokes
Does NOT "hijack" home pages
Does NOT serve or facilitate ads

I see a ton of references to them in my stats so who knows?

juggernaut · 2006-10-25, 11:25 PM

Sorry have not been around much. Busy as hell and just got to reading this thread which should make my 430am wake up fun. But for those of you who want to help your members on stopping alot of this crap. I have seen GG put up a page to help. If people are going to do the same remind or let your surfers know how to set up their browsers.
a few settings that have always helped me. in IE 6

1) go to tools, internet options, and make sure install on demand is UNCHECKED. this is MS little way of make some old side cash by allowing 3rd party companies they do business with to install some of their shit on your system. Most of the time it's harmless but "install other" and not knowing what it is, is bad.

2) go to tools, internet options, privacy, advanced. Place a check mark in "Override Automatic cookie handling" Accept first party cookies, Block 3rd party cookies, and always allow the session cookie.

I don't know if this will stop this, I know I have never ever gotten a toolbar or anything else installed on my system other then what I want. If you want to play and see how much shit is really out their, set the privacy to prompt for 3rd party. You will be surpised how many people try to sneek shit in your system. Also just on a note of those of you who are concerned how these settings would affect your bottomline. They will not! If you are a legit wm and not trying to pullshit over on someone, your cookie will stay in their system. Try this on some of your test systems by removing your mouseovers and you will see the cookie tracks you just fine to the sponser. Anyway hopes this helps some of you..

shaman · 2006-10-26, 07:54 AM

Zango is distributed via ClickZs.com script! Read this thread (Removed fro more information (in russian)

Jim · 2006-10-26, 07:57 AM

shaman
I went to the url you posted and there was something trying to install software on my pc. I have removed the url.

shaman · 2006-10-26, 08:04 AM

It's strange 4 me because i put link on Master-X forum (Kit from Penisbot is owner of it) and when i read it thera are no any installations.

2006-10-21, 06:33 PM	#2
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	[quote=Linkster;307630] First - naming any sponsor that supports this or benefits in any way from this activity - and I believe we should start a thread right here to do it. Second - and I will take the lead on this one - delete any sponsor that is confirmed to support this from all sites /QUOTE] My knowledge of programming is limited to say the most, but I will definitely dump any sponsors using this crap, and will post on my submit page saying that I will not allow submissions for sites promoting sponsors who use this crap. But where can I find a list of sponsors using Zango or similar? __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2006-10-21, 07:02 PM	#3
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	if zango keeps growing users, eventually there will no longer be a need for the webmaster or any webmaster boards... I bust my ass trying to hit the right SEO on my LL, and the spammers and scammers walk there way right through google and knock all my listing out, and it dont take a genius to see they are flat out robbing us... And its certain sponsors who knowingly take there traffic, even after they been reported, if they would close there accounts down, a lot less would spam as there's no one to pay them... I been reading other boards about zango and from what I read a whole shit load of site owners are ready to fight, tgp LL owners and so on... when this list is shown and confirmed any sites with sponsor content on them, I hope I can leave them and never ever promote them again and delete all links on my LL's and drop all trades to other LL's When they know that program is a zango cheater... also I would never post on any boards that advertise any zango sponsors or click on any ads or sign up to any other programs on there board.... I am barely scrapping by and to hear what zango and some sponsors do is mind boggling, a lot I talk to mostly say how bad sales are and click throughs are to for them... I am not no king producing traffic god but put a few 1000s of webmasters who think like me and others and the message may get accross __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here Last edited by plateman; 2006-10-21 at 07:06 PM..

2006-10-22, 01:17 AM	#7
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	Don't miss this page there either: http://www.benedelman.org/cookiestuf...ch-110404.html Code: <IMG border='0' width='1' height='1' src='http://www.qksrv.net/click-1515738-8066398'> Looks like you can stuff cookies across domains by burying the link in a 1x1 pixel. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2006-10-22, 05:44 AM	#8
iMan Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 101	I'm thrilled to see that you big beards (or experienced small stubs) are doing something about this I'm just a peeon pissing my pants of excitement to see that the zango daemon might, by the power of ALL, be brought to his crusefiction... and that in the span of MY porno lifetime I've got 'bout 10-20 sponsors (a bunch on the same CCBill account so I'm not sure if those counts as a separate ones..) But Linkster, How can I know if the sponsors I promote is on the long and impressive list of zango sponsors? I've looked everywhere on zangcash's site and I can't find any list what so ever... do I need to sign up with this vermin to be able to access all this info? Is there any chance that I could somehow get this list anyway? I'd HATE to be building sites for dirty ass sponsors without knowing! Thanks! __________________

2006-10-22, 12:53 PM	#10
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	Jim, that movie won't play for me but I poked around the 1source4.info site and found this page talking about Netflix and BestBuy... http://www.1source4.info/0504-hb2-netflix/netflix.html -- (edit: ... which I now realize was already posted in this thread but since I can't delete this post I'll just make it longer.) -- Maybe the .wmv file shows something else, but the html page talks about how both BestBuy and Netflix are both being stolen from in their example. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka Last edited by Simon; 2006-10-22 at 01:01 PM.. Reason: 'cause I didn't read everything first

2006-10-21, 04:18 PM	#5
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	- I am 100% with Linkster on this one... and will also kill any sponsor confirmed on the list. In my opinion we should also "out" the sponsors that support SE spammers and the webmasters that use install/codec program like VideosCash .. but Zango is a good place to start... DD

2006-10-22, 10:50 AM	#9
eman Solipsists of the world unite Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: xxx axis Posts: 639	As far as I can tell my sites are now clean of any direct links to AFF/LL. FWIW I've never promoted sexsearch. I'll gladly remove links to any other sponsors as and when they are implicated in the zango bid-fest. I have a very loyal base of surfers and I will not knowingly betray their trust.

2006-10-22, 02:44 PM	#11
Platinum Dave Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 42	Great thread, where do I get an install to test if this company is stealing any traffic from my sites. I have heard stuff about a dozen spy ware companies stealing traffic, I always never believed it until I saw that link. http://www.teamclickcash.com/tmp/jayxxxlinks.html Now I need to start serious investigations Monday morning.

2006-10-23, 11:29 AM	#14
Platinum Dave Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 42	Don't forget the other site http://www.platinumdave.com some people have to much time on their hands.

2006-10-24, 02:19 PM	#16
Sexvilly They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: www.sexvilly.com Posts: 140	do you know you can actually check if your site has Zango infected users or not? go to your WebAlizer / AwStat and watch Browsers, Zango infected users look like this Mozilla5.0;ZangoTlbr this from russian forum, one guy had out of 9000 visitors 2000 (or was it 2%?) infected with Zango. I know many russians have CJ traffic where differen spyware is popular. they trade traffic between each other so all get infected surfers. check your stat if you have any. if you don't trade with CJ or TGP where this also popular no reason to worry then? __________________ I sell Blog Posts With Your Link - $5 Per Lifetime Link Last edited by Sexvilly; 2006-10-24 at 02:34 PM..

2006-10-25, 06:14 PM	#20
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	If I remember correctly funwebproducts is distributed by ask(ask jeeves) and most spyware programs treat it as spyware - it also installs 13 other applications when it loads including specific search toolbars that pop ads, although they claim that none of it is "malware". Thye are covered by their TOS but just a smost toolbar installs - its what comes with it that hurts the most __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-10-24, 04:41 PM	#21
EzRyder If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Texas Posts: 31	According to Fun Web Products web site: http://help.funwebproducts.com/webmaster.html Fun Web Products: Does NOT "spider" websites Does NOT contain any malicious software Does NOT collect any personal information Does NOT monitor the sites visited Does NOT monitor behavior on the Internet Does NOT log or track keystrokes Does NOT "hijack" home pages Does NOT serve or facilitate ads I see a ton of references to them in my stats so who knows? __________________ Sex-XXX-Links

2006-10-25, 11:25 PM	#22
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Sorry have not been around much. Busy as hell and just got to reading this thread which should make my 430am wake up fun. But for those of you who want to help your members on stopping alot of this crap. I have seen GG put up a page to help. If people are going to do the same remind or let your surfers know how to set up their browsers. a few settings that have always helped me. in IE 6 1) go to tools, internet options, and make sure install on demand is UNCHECKED. this is MS little way of make some old side cash by allowing 3rd party companies they do business with to install some of their shit on your system. Most of the time it's harmless but "install other" and not knowing what it is, is bad. 2) go to tools, internet options, privacy, advanced. Place a check mark in "Override Automatic cookie handling" Accept first party cookies, Block 3rd party cookies, and always allow the session cookie. I don't know if this will stop this, I know I have never ever gotten a toolbar or anything else installed on my system other then what I want. If you want to play and see how much shit is really out their, set the privacy to prompt for 3rd party. You will be surpised how many people try to sneek shit in your system. Also just on a note of those of you who are concerned how these settings would affect your bottomline. They will not! If you are a legit wm and not trying to pullshit over on someone, your cookie will stay in their system. Try this on some of your test systems by removing your mouseovers and you will see the cookie tracks you just fine to the sponser. Anyway hopes this helps some of you.. Last edited by juggernaut; 2006-10-25 at 11:29 PM..

2006-10-26, 07:54 AM	#23
shaman Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 20	Zango is distributed via ClickZs.com script! Read this thread (Removed fro more information (in russian)

2006-10-26, 07:57 AM	#24
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	shaman I went to the url you posted and there was something trying to install software on my pc. I have removed the url.

2006-10-26, 08:04 AM	#25
shaman Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 20	It's strange 4 me because i put link on Master-X forum (Kit from Penisbot is owner of it) and when i read it thera are no any installations.