ATTN: Webmasters submitting to the hoes.com gay category - Page 2

plateman · 2006-11-21, 11:57 AM

glad I quit submitting a long time ago - IMO it's crazy to trade a fs from a seasoned wm on a non mirror page that knows FS seo and trade it off on a newer less known webmaster....

the well known webmasters who submitt to me are the first ones I list...

and believe me I give all leget submitters a chance to be listed and out of the 4 years I been a LL owner I can count on 1 hand who was new that kept building sites and didnt go 404 or let there domains expire, or didnt start to blind link tours or started the same niche same pay site thing day in a day out

Bill · 2006-11-21, 05:27 PM

marc, what you are saying, which is that you only have room for a certain number of sites each day so you don't accept everything, is what I decided you were doing a few years back.

Based on the tests I ran it was the only theory that made sense.

And everybody understands what you are doing, especially people who also submit galleries.

But, it's not fair to my trusted linklists to put your recip on the same sites I give them.

This has always been one of the difficulties with building a specialized site to sub to you under the 'click here' rules - who do I pick to list with you? They have to be big enough to get past your reviewers, but have some other kind of problem that makes them equivalent to hoes.

msanchez · 2006-11-21, 08:40 PM

Marc, Its nice that you have taken the time to respond to these questions. From what you posted though there is one thing I have seen for myself that is a little off. I dont get listed most of the time, its more like once in a very long while. Around the area on 1 site listed for 25 submitted.

I do some pretty weird categories like wet and messy which I doubt gets that many submissions and I use content I shot myself, promoting a site I made myself, and still dont get accepted.

So yes you have great traffic and all, but is it really worth it for the seasoned submitter to use a reciprocal spot for you on the off chance of getting listed?

I dont have a solution for you and of course it is your site, I just wanted to point out that in my experience its not a matter of getting listed most of the time, but closer to once in a blue moon.

Just kinda frustrating that the sites meet the stated rules and dont get listed so someone else can have a shot.

Greenguy · 2006-11-21, 11:10 AM

WOW! That's a really bold statement.

Believe me when I say that I do know where you're coming from & that I agree, you can't list 400 new sites each day, but to say stuff like "It's hard to come up with a reason for a deletion sometimes. Another reason could be that we want to allow lesser-known webmasters the opportunity to have their site accepted that day and have to substitute their site for one of your sites" is not going to keep you on the submit list of established free site webmasters & that might actually hurt you in the long run

And no, I don't have a another solution to this problem - and it is a problem that I wish I had - lol

Greenguy · 2006-11-21, 11:12 AM

Actually, I do have a solution - go the Tommy route: paid partner accounts with a cap as to how many submitters you allow (start with whatever number of sites you think is a good number to list each day & then allow more if needed)

mb · 2006-11-27, 02:28 AM

I talked to my reviewers and confirmed what I assumed to be true. They keep an eye out for the old-school, trusted webmaster submissions. BUT, no even the oldest, most trusted webmaster's submission will make it if the content is overused or duplicate for that day. Alot of times a new set comes out from a sponsor and several webmasters quickly make free sites with it. The queue is in chronological order. So if a new webmaster with a great free site uses it first, they get listed and we have to decline the old webmaster with the duplicate content.

Bottom line is this. If you make quality free sites with lesser used content, you'll likely get listed MOST of the time. I can't control outside factors like a new webmaster beating you to the punch with content. I'm sure everyone can understand my dilemma.

Greenguy · 2006-11-27, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mb

I talked to my reviewers and confirmed what I assumed to be true. They keep an eye out for the old-school, trusted webmaster submissions. BUT, no even the oldest, most trusted webmaster's submission will make it if the content is overused or duplicate for that day. Alot of times a new set comes out from a sponsor and several webmasters quickly make free sites with it. The queue is in chronological order. So if a new webmaster with a great free site uses it first, they get listed and we have to decline the old webmaster with the duplicate content.

Bottom line is this. If you make quality free sites with lesser used content, you'll likely get listed MOST of the time. I can't control outside factors like a new webmaster beating you to the punch with content. I'm sure everyone can understand my dilemma.

Well, at least you have a legit reason for declining the submits now

2006-11-21, 11:57 AM	#1
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	glad I quit submitting a long time ago - IMO it's crazy to trade a fs from a seasoned wm on a non mirror page that knows FS seo and trade it off on a newer less known webmaster.... the well known webmasters who submitt to me are the first ones I list... and believe me I give all leget submitters a chance to be listed and out of the 4 years I been a LL owner I can count on 1 hand who was new that kept building sites and didnt go 404 or let there domains expire, or didnt start to blind link tours or started the same niche same pay site thing day in a day out __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2006-11-21, 08:40 PM	#3
msanchez It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Thumb Posts: 484	Marc, Its nice that you have taken the time to respond to these questions. From what you posted though there is one thing I have seen for myself that is a little off. I dont get listed most of the time, its more like once in a very long while. Around the area on 1 site listed for 25 submitted. I do some pretty weird categories like wet and messy which I doubt gets that many submissions and I use content I shot myself, promoting a site I made myself, and still dont get accepted. So yes you have great traffic and all, but is it really worth it for the seasoned submitter to use a reciprocal spot for you on the off chance of getting listed? I dont have a solution for you and of course it is your site, I just wanted to point out that in my experience its not a matter of getting listed most of the time, but closer to once in a blue moon. Just kinda frustrating that the sites meet the stated rules and dont get listed so someone else can have a shot. __________________ I buy text links, clicked traffic, blog posts, and more! Hit me with a pm.

2006-11-21, 11:10 AM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	WOW! That's a really bold statement. Believe me when I say that I do know where you're coming from & that I agree, you can't list 400 new sites each day, but to say stuff like "It's hard to come up with a reason for a deletion sometimes. Another reason could be that we want to allow lesser-known webmasters the opportunity to have their site accepted that day and have to substitute their site for one of your sites" is not going to keep you on the submit list of established free site webmasters & that might actually hurt you in the long run And no, I don't have a another solution to this problem - and it is a problem that I wish I had - lol __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-11-21, 11:12 AM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Actually, I do have a solution - go the Tommy route: paid partner accounts with a cap as to how many submitters you allow (start with whatever number of sites you think is a good number to list each day & then allow more if needed) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-11-27, 02:28 AM	#6
mb The sun? That's the hottest place on Earth Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 391	I talked to my reviewers and confirmed what I assumed to be true. They keep an eye out for the old-school, trusted webmaster submissions. BUT, no even the oldest, most trusted webmaster's submission will make it if the content is overused or duplicate for that day. Alot of times a new set comes out from a sponsor and several webmasters quickly make free sites with it. The queue is in chronological order. So if a new webmaster with a great free site uses it first, they get listed and we have to decline the old webmaster with the duplicate content. Bottom line is this. If you make quality free sites with lesser used content, you'll likely get listed MOST of the time. I can't control outside factors like a new webmaster beating you to the punch with content. I'm sure everyone can understand my dilemma. __________________ * Top Converting Sponsors At Hoes.com! * Promote MovieRoom.com!

2006-11-21, 05:27 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	marc, what you are saying, which is that you only have room for a certain number of sites each day so you don't accept everything, is what I decided you were doing a few years back. Based on the tests I ran it was the only theory that made sense. And everybody understands what you are doing, especially people who also submit galleries. But, it's not fair to my trusted linklists to put your recip on the same sites I give them. This has always been one of the difficulties with building a specialized site to sub to you under the 'click here' rules - who do I pick to list with you? They have to be big enough to get past your reviewers, but have some other kind of problem that makes them equivalent to hoes.