Eonpal?? WTF is this?

LowryBigwood · 2006-12-23, 12:47 AM

Does anyone know what this site is http://www.eonpal.com/ ?

They are showing up in my refferal stats, and something just seems odd to me. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/eonpal/

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but are they doing me any favors?

Simon · 2006-12-23, 06:44 AM

I know what you mean. I've had them start to show up in my stats this last month too. Seems they have a very poorly written spider which is showing up as a referring url of their root domain. They really need to get someone to rewrite their little tool.

ladydesigner · 2006-12-23, 07:33 AM

Same here. They show up in my domain stats but I have no idea who they are and if it's all good or not.

Useless · 2006-12-23, 08:21 AM

Are they spidering, or are they hitting our sites so that we will look them up and possibly sign on as affiliates? What's that called, referral spamming or something like that?

They certainly don't give off and an aura of trustworthiness.

ivko999 · 2006-12-23, 08:54 AM

hello,

we (eonpal) crawl sites for adult content.

more info can be found here: http://www.eonpal.com

However, If you want to be excluded from it, please send us list of domains and we'll block our crawler from going there.

or simply just block traffic coming with http referrer *.eonpal.com (this is what you referred as referral spam)

good or bad? your content might appear in search engine so I guess is good. if it's not, send us list of domains, we'll exclude them immediately.

I'll be around post to answer your questions, if any

cheers,

Useless · 2006-12-23, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivko999

we (eonpal) crawl sites for adult content.

What do you mean by that exactly? Are you looking to list our URLs on your engine, even though your ads aren't on our pages, or are you ripping the photo content from our pages to use on your almost 2 million galleries?

If you are listing our URLs - why? Are you overriding our affiliate codes with your own?

Explain to us why we want you to crawl our sites.

Greenguy · 2006-12-23, 09:54 AM

It looks like they give you a fake Thumbnail TGP that links to other peoples galleries in a frame, so their ads are on top.

Papa · 2006-12-23, 10:08 AM

Bingo
They are not the first ones to pull this sh*t

ivko999 · 2006-12-23, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If you are listing our URLs - why? Are you overriding our affiliate codes with your own?

Explain to us why we want you to crawl our sites.

If your site doesn't contain original content, you should exclude it from crawling (by sending us email or simply blocking the bot)

If you do host original content, then it is your best interest to be crawled.

ivko999 · 2006-12-23, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

It looks like they give you a fake Thumbnail TGP that links to other peoples galleries in a frame, so their ads are on top.

I didn't understand this.

Any more questions?

Greenguy · 2006-12-23, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivko999

I didn't understand this.

Any more questions?

EXACTLY

LowryBigwood · 2006-12-23, 01:36 PM

Ok, thanks everyone for the replies, questions, and answers. So it's prettymuch a worthless piece of shit to us? But are the refs, real or fake as UW asked? I mean... are the thumbs they are scraping (or crawling as he put it) linking back to our sites? I'm still a bit confused after ivko999's replies..

Useless · 2006-12-23, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivko999

If your site doesn't contain original content, you should exclude it from crawling (by sending us email or simply blocking the bot)

I think it's the other way around. If you host orginal content - you should block the bot.

Should we assume that your bot will ignore robots.txt, so we must use .htaccess to completely block you from showing our pages in your site's frames?

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} eonsex\.com [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [F]

LowryBigwood · 2006-12-23, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I think it's the other way around. If you host orginal content - you should block the bot.

I think you may be correct UW. He's got it back asswards maybe? I got a chuckle out of those posts on the google groups. Apparently they are flooding mainstream and even ch*ldren sites with their traffic...

dareutwo · 2006-12-23, 02:09 PM

Just what I needed to do today, edit htaccess codes, stupid fucks

Thanks UW

Linkster · 2006-12-23, 04:28 PM

Since they have refused to reign in their bot and now are referral spamming childrens sites I would recommend that you just get ahold of their hosting company at Columbus Network Access Point Inc.
abuse at ee dot net is the best place to report them. Seems they are coming real close to breaking the new law passed last year with the porn referrals to childrens sites even if its just their bot doing it.
I know the issue has been brought up with google already due to the scraping but more importantly they are just a fusker site with an affiliate program - they fusker your galleries so that another webmaster can make cents for clicks

LowryBigwood · 2006-12-23, 04:56 PM

Thanks Linkster,

I wasn't sure what they were doing exactly, but now I understand. How can it be legal for them to scrape our galleries and make money on it? The nerve some people have...

ivko999 · 2006-12-24, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Ok, thanks everyone for the replies, questions, and answers. So it's prettymuch a worthless piece of shit to us? But are the refs, real or fake as UW asked? I mean... are the thumbs they are scraping (or crawling as he put it) linking back to our sites? I'm still a bit confused after ivko999's replies..

Thumbnails link back to you.

Think of google images except this is specialized for adult content.

ivko999 · 2006-12-24, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Thanks Linkster,

I wasn't sure what they were doing exactly, but now I understand. How can it be legal for them to scrape our galleries and make money on it? The nerve some people have...

http://www.eonpal.com/

Blocking the bot won't help you because content is overly duplicated on the Internet, so you'll just miss the chance of receiving free search engine traffic.

We do exactly the same what Google images does, except we're specialized in adult content.

If user clicks the thumbnail, goes back to your site - so you make money of it.

Thanks everybody, for any further questions, send me an email (found on eonpal.com)

Linkster · 2006-12-24, 04:25 PM

You dont do exactly what google images does - you hotlink content inside your frame to build your site - and so far the only traffic anyone seems to get is bot traffic
Here's an example of how this site works - with one of Danger Daves galleries hotlinked amd framed:
http://www.eonsex.com/details.php?br...9FBE32351CDD92
It shows up on a search for greenguy since the words are on that gallery - note that I dont ever remember google putting ads for their own affiliate links at the top of an image page like you do - and then running an affiliate program to provide more traffic to your pages takes the final step to being a scam artist

DangerDave · 2006-12-24, 05:14 PM

OMFG! that is an oooold! gallery

.. and as always Linkster is right.... These fucks are just lowlife leeches.

Don't support them!
htaccess/framebust your Galls!

They will be gone soon enuff...

DD
_______________________________
No Nats - Find programs that DON'T use NATS
Old Dollars - Selling older women via CCBill for longer than NATS has been around

GonZo · 2006-12-24, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivko999

http://www.eonpal.com/

Blocking the bot won't help you because content is overly duplicated on the Internet, so you'll just miss the chance of receiving free search engine traffic.

We do exactly the same what Google images does, except we're specialized in adult content.

If user clicks the thumbnail, goes back to your site - so you make money of it.

Thanks everybody, for any further questions, send me an email (found on eonpal.com)

Just another cockholster.

ladydesigner · 2006-12-24, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Don't support them!
htaccess/framebust your Galls!

Hi DD. Not to sound like a total newbie but I've got some galleries floating around that these jerks are also linking to. What exactly do I need to add to my htaccess files to block them or bust out of their frames?

DangerDave · 2006-12-24, 07:22 PM

...and supported by our friends at AVN Ads..

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=98286

Now you can pay AVN for your own traffic back... fuckers!

DD

terry · 2006-12-24, 08:27 PM

fuckers

2006-12-23, 12:47 AM	#1
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	Eonpal?? WTF is this? Does anyone know what this site is http://www.eonpal.com/ ? They are showing up in my refferal stats, and something just seems odd to me. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/eonpal/ Maybe I'm just paranoid, but are they doing me any favors? __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog

2006-12-23, 06:44 AM	#2
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	I know what you mean. I've had them start to show up in my stats this last month too. Seems they have a very poorly written spider which is showing up as a referring url of their root domain. They really need to get someone to rewrite their little tool. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2006-12-23, 07:33 AM	#3
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	Same here. They show up in my domain stats but I have no idea who they are and if it's all good or not. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2006-12-23, 08:54 AM	#5
ivko999 Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6	Eonpal crawling hello, we (eonpal) crawl sites for adult content. more info can be found here: http://www.eonpal.com However, If you want to be excluded from it, please send us list of domains and we'll block our crawler from going there. or simply just block traffic coming with http referrer *.eonpal.com (this is what you referred as referral spam) good or bad? your content might appear in search engine so I guess is good. if it's not, send us list of domains, we'll exclude them immediately. I'll be around post to answer your questions, if any cheers,

2006-12-23, 09:54 AM	#7
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2006-12-23, 08:21 AM	#4
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2006-12-23, 10:08 AM	#8
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2006-12-23, 01:36 PM	#12
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	Ok, thanks everyone for the replies, questions, and answers. So it's prettymuch a worthless piece of shit to us? But are the refs, real or fake as UW asked? I mean... are the thumbs they are scraping (or crawling as he put it) linking back to our sites? I'm still a bit confused after ivko999's replies.. __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog Last edited by LowryBigwood; 2006-12-23 at 01:39 PM..

2006-12-23, 02:09 PM	#15
dareutwo You can't disprove anything with evidence that doesn't exist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Minnesota - pop 865 +/- 1 Posts: 2,038	Just what I needed to do today, edit htaccess codes, stupid fucks Thanks UW __________________ This is me Mark's-Links

2006-12-23, 04:28 PM	#16
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Since they have refused to reign in their bot and now are referral spamming childrens sites I would recommend that you just get ahold of their hosting company at Columbus Network Access Point Inc. abuse at ee dot net is the best place to report them. Seems they are coming real close to breaking the new law passed last year with the porn referrals to childrens sites even if its just their bot doing it. I know the issue has been brought up with google already due to the scraping but more importantly they are just a fusker site with an affiliate program - they fusker your galleries so that another webmaster can make cents for clicks __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-12-23, 04:56 PM	#17
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	Thanks Linkster, I wasn't sure what they were doing exactly, but now I understand. How can it be legal for them to scrape our galleries and make money on it? The nerve some people have... __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog

2006-12-24, 04:25 PM	#20
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	You dont do exactly what google images does - you hotlink content inside your frame to build your site - and so far the only traffic anyone seems to get is bot traffic Here's an example of how this site works - with one of Danger Daves galleries hotlinked amd framed: http://www.eonsex.com/details.php?br...9FBE32351CDD92 It shows up on a search for greenguy since the words are on that gallery - note that I dont ever remember google putting ads for their own affiliate links at the top of an image page like you do - and then running an affiliate program to provide more traffic to your pages takes the final step to being a scam artist __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-12-24, 05:14 PM	#21
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	OMFG! that is an oooold! gallery .. and as always Linkster is right.... These fucks are just lowlife leeches. Don't support them! htaccess/framebust your Galls! They will be gone soon enuff... DD _______________________________ No Nats - Find programs that DON'T use NATS Old Dollars - Selling older women via CCBill for longer than NATS has been around

2006-12-24, 07:22 PM	#24
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	...and supported by our friends at AVN Ads.. http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=98286 Now you can pay AVN for your own traffic back... fuckers! DD

2006-12-24, 08:27 PM	#25
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	fuckers __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store