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View Poll Results: Are Recips W/Out The LL's Name In The Text Considered Blind Links?
Yes - That's A Blind Link 30 29.41%
No - That's Not A Blind Link 72 70.59%
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Old 2007-12-30, 10:35 AM   #1
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Old 2007-12-30, 10:46 AM   #2
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I expected more from you're 1st post in over 18 months.

Still checking on my alexa & google rankings?

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Who cares what a "NoBoDy" has to say!

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Old 2007-12-23, 05:36 PM   #3
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fucking question...
i think "no" and voted for second variant
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Old 2007-12-23, 06:53 PM   #4
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fucking question...
i think "no" and voted for second variant
I think also "NO" and I voted for this. And I got to say that no one else will submit free sites to GG-LLs if the problem between Kit and GG will not be solved. I submitted in this year about 400 free sites, about 250 was approved by penisbot and only ~70 by GG-LLs.

GG`s approved free sites given me traffic for about 2 month. Free Sites approved from penisbot are still working for me and got a lot of sign ups.

A question, where is the reason to submit sites to GG and give him a place in my recip-table? Think about this. Live in peace and let the people submit to you because without this people you are nothing.

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p.s. sorry for new registration, i`m reading gg board since 2006. you can ban me, if my post does not like you. its IMHO
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Old 2007-12-23, 09:26 PM   #5
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Is it just me, or should the name of the Link List be in the text of the recip link?
It should, any other way and its blind link, keyword spam that screws everyone
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Old 2007-12-24, 10:28 AM   #6
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I hope everything gets worked out... i have really enjoyed traffic from LOR, Penisbot and WetPlace

Thank you both for accepting my freesites
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Old 2007-12-24, 11:45 AM   #7
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a bit late for me to answer this, but yep i see it as a blind link,i wanna say more about it, but i kow it will end in dutch chinese and i am running out of time now, no linksite name means blind to me.
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Old 2007-12-24, 02:09 PM   #8
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I have my own views on this and I will try and abide by what rules are set forth for each individual LL - I just want to know why people are being recruited in to "testify" on this thread..I mean who the fuck is Nataly C and Adult Dream - both Dec 2007 registrants with 1 and 2 posts (all in this thread) I mean c'mon now. Next it will turn into "my mom will kick your moms ass"..neener neener neener..why cant everyone just agree to disagree on certain points. - My suggestion is if you cant make certain LL owners happy with one type of recip table, then post the two on seperate sites and call it good.
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Old 2007-12-25, 07:27 AM   #9
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I just want to know why people are being recruited in to "testify" on this thread..I mean who the fuck is Nataly C and Adult Dream
I don't recruited anybody to help me push my opinion. ;-)

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I'm not saying there is an easy solution, just that insisting that everyone use the exact same links all the time is a dead end. And you should figure out a way to get more variety in the anchor text of recips.
I agree with you. Natural linking way suppose more freedom for the free site makers. We recommend to use the official reciprocal links, but do not order to use ONLY them.

The thing we'll strong require to be approved is inclusion "Porn" word in link texts or titles.

If you have a very good site, it will be accepted even with custom recips, but word "Porn" must be used in category and index link in any case.
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Old 2007-12-25, 09:27 AM   #10
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Then, please, let us now all reasons how to get banned at LOR ?...
You're off topic now, but in your case, my guess would be Poor Grammar or Spelling Errors. If you really want to know, send me a PM with your domain & I'll look them up on the blacklist & send you a vailid reason for each one that I added. I'll do it in public if you want as well.

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I don't recruited anybody to help me push my opinion. ;-).
Oddly enough, I can say that without using the winking smiley.
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Old 2007-12-25, 09:32 AM   #11
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...I agree with you. Natural linking way suppose more freedom for the free site makers. We recommend to use the official reciprocal links, but do not order to use ONLY them...
This is from your site/rejection email, correct?:
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"Please use "PenisBot's Porn Links" alt tag for our reciprocal buttons and text links.
Anyway, WORD "Porn" MUST BE USED (and Linked in text version).
Also be sure what your reciprocal page have at least one link to PenisBot root http://www.penisbot.com/
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Old 2007-12-24, 06:38 PM   #12
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Kit - one question: Is this recip table OK with you?
http://www.greenguysboard.com/blindrecips.html
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Old 2007-12-24, 06:55 PM   #13
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Kit - one question: Is this recip table OK with you?
http://www.greenguysboard.com/blindrecips.html
I'm not Kit, but I want to say my opinion. The recip table in your example is too extreme. You use the same keywords for all linklists. If you use different keywords then it's ok.

I personally think that it's impossible to have recips without blind links. The domain says nothing to surfers, it's name is already blind link. Sometimes the domain is so long that you can't put it into the recip table.

If you're trying to imrove this business then you'd better think about the structure of freesites. Surfers don't need warning page, they don't read warning messages.
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Old 2007-12-24, 08:27 PM   #14
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If you're trying to imrove this business then you'd better think about the structure of freesites. Surfers don't need warning page, they don't read warning messages.
I do not agree with that statement. The surfer might not but the submitter does. I just pulled my spread sheet out to verify where my freesite sales were coming from and here is the breakdown:
48% warning page - 35% main page - 17% galleries
Every page is a chance to sell the surfer and if most of my sales are coming from the warning page they are obviously reading it.

I feel if a freesite builder cannot sell on the warning page then they should improve their building skills or just submit to tgp's. Just my opinion.
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Old 2007-12-24, 08:41 PM   #15
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I do not agree with that statement. The surfer might not but the submitter does. I just pulled my spread sheet out to verify where my freesite sales were coming from and here is the breakdown:
48% warning page - 35% main page - 17% galleries
Every page is a chance to sell the surfer and if most of my sales are coming from the warning page they are obviously reading it.

I feel if a freesite builder cannot sell on the warning page then they should improve their building skills or just submit to tgp's. Just my opinion.
I agree, the submitters job is to get the surfer to the sponsor as soon as possible. Warning page and main page provide the best opportunities to do that. Without those a free site is no more than a TGP gallery.
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Old 2007-12-24, 07:02 PM   #16
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Why is that extreme? That's 16 versions of Kit's recip. 1 is ok, but 16 isn't?

How many are ok? 4? 8? 12?

Am I getting my point across at all?
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Old 2007-12-24, 08:59 PM   #17
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Am I getting my point across at all?
It's crystal clear mate.. and more people should see it... !


Cleo's post on the first page was the scariest one... All it needs is a few of us to ask for

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and it's all over for free sites, linklists and half the biz... because TGPs will be the next ones to take it up...

This is what is coming.. if "we" follow this path..

http://www.dangerdave.com.au/blindrecips2.htm


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Old 2007-12-26, 09:43 AM   #18
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Am I getting my point across at all?
Sure are, its obvious
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Old 2007-12-24, 07:11 PM   #19
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If you use different keywords then it's ok.
One recip is "Cumshot Porn", another one is "Sucking sluts"... I'm sure that the most part of linklist owners would be happy if webmasters use different keywords for their category recips each time.
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As for the question at hand is such a recip link blind or not. Speaking as a submitter and not a link list owner I dont really care either way. To me it's just a link I have to include on my site to get accepted - it makes little odds to us.

What I dont like to see is that it seems submitters are having to make choices between link-o-rama or penisbot but not both in the same recip table. That can't be good for either party and to be honest as a submitter I will always side with the site that sends me the most traffic.
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A little off topic..

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48% warning page - 35% main page - 17% galleries
Useless stat with ratios and more... ( if you are converting 48% at the warning page but your ratio is 1:10,565,464,646 then it means nothing.. and vice versa, if it's 1:20 and the galleries... the warning page argument falls apart.)

Additionally.. what are you building galleries for? Why not just build 4,532,435,535,534 warning pages..??


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the submitters job is to get the surfer to the sponsor as soon as possible
Not true, that is just an opinion...

(As is the following) The "job" was/is to get the surfer primed to buy... so sending them from the warning page or "as fast as possible" is flawed. Galleries are there to be used to get the surfer interested in the product you are selling.

If warning pages were king, we would allow blind links, and have fucking big ones right at the top.

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A little off topic..
Useless stat with ratios and more...
I agree, it was only used to explain that surfers do read what is written on the warning page and nothing more.

The rest of the comments/responses of freesite structure would be better off in its own thread/discussion.
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Old 2007-12-24, 09:50 PM   #23
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48% warning page - 35% main page - 17% galleries
If you redirect all traffic to your sponsor you will get 100% of signups from this redirect

Surfers don't like and don't need warning page. If we want to make good sites for surfers then we must forget about this page.

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This example is too extreme and you don't accept freesites.
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Old 2007-12-25, 04:45 AM   #24
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Am I right to assume the following.

1) Link lists that that want to use key words in their recipes instead of their domain name or name of site, will still accept sites from submitters if they add their site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. ( Kit said o.k. to this I think)


So the question is,
The link lists which think the links are blind, do you still feel the links are blind if the submitters adds the site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. Will you still reject our sites if we do every thing in 1?

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"Click Here To See Her Suck Cock" is blind but when put under a banner it becomes part of the banner and is not blind. As Greenie once said, it's the intent of the ad space and even a first time computer user will recognize a recip table as a box full of clickable links where they can hopefully get porn. I like this recip table
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