ePassporte Official Statment

[tickler]

post 2000, neat!

[blinki bill]

asking for photo id is normal, paypal and others do the same if you reach certain amount in six months. however asking all users like that with no explanation just after the mess up is a huge mistake...

[GonZo]

Looks like they paid the phone bill for the call center.
Mighty professional!

[markuzz]

And so...this story continues.....

[Charlie]

I would so give up on epassporte! Why he's not in jail is completely beyond my comprehension

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Why he's not in jail is completely beyond my comprehension

It is due to a little matter of him not having done anything illegal. True, he is an asshole (if my experience is anything to go by) - but being an asshole is not yet a crime, and if it were, most of the jails would be full by now!

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

It is due to a little matter of him not having done anything illegal. True, he is an asshole (if my experience is anything to go by) - but being an asshole is not yet a crime, and if it were, most of the jails would be full by now!

Yes, but how is being responsible for people not being able to get their money not illegal? Just curious.

I just want to know the angel so I can pull this shit next!

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Yes, but how is being responsible for people not being able to get their money not illegal?

Unless you are just trying to be funny for the sake of it, read this thread fully and the links leading from it, because I don't think you actually understand what the situation is!

[Goodlove]

After I logged into my account the other day, I got a message, so logged back in to see my account was on hold and I have to send them copies of my ID etc.

I'm bamboozled by this, is this some attempt to hold the funds of epassporte account holders? I don't have much in my account wallet and even less on my visa card, but why do I have to send them copies of my ID? I'm not even sure I trust sending them that data, I'll probably let them keep the measly $100 there is in the wallet.

[ecchi]

Sorry, just realised that the last sentence on my previous post sounded insulting, it was not meant that way.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Sorry, just realised that the last sentence on my previous post sounded insulting, it was not meant that way.

No offense taken.

Being half sober now (with hangover), I still don't think epass is one of the victims. Maybe they are and that's why there are no legal actions against them. I do admit that I always found them to be pretty incompetent and thus always paid the 3 bucks to have even my minimum payments withdrawn from them immediately. I had so many problems with them in the past just simply withdrawing to my own US bank account that something major (even if it hadn't been this) seemed almost inevitable to me.

I don't even see how he can start back up without paying back that money whether it's his fault or not, or having it unfrozen if that is the actual case.

I love they way they always tell you, your money is safe. Great! But it's not in my hands. Why don't you let me have it so I can keep it safe myself LOL. Again not me personally. I don't think I even lost a dollar like I said, but I certainly won't use them to receive payments ever again. They are complete screw ups in my eyes.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

I don't even see how he can start back up without paying back that money whether it's his fault or not, or having it unfrozen if that is the actual case.

Well that is a given. Assuming this gets sorted out, eP will be dead in the water if their clients loose money.

Originally Posted by Charlie

I love they way they always tell you, your money is safe. Great! But it's not in my hands. Why don't you let me have it so I can keep it safe myself LOL.

Because there is no legal way he can do this. It would require monumental financial misdealing at eP's end, and if they even tried they are looking at 20+ years in prison. And worse, any US bank account that they do manage to get money into is going to get frozen by the government while they look into it, which will probably take years! You really want to be unable to withdraw any money from your own bank account for the next few years?

Originally Posted by Charlie

I do admit that I always found them to be pretty incompetent They are complete screw ups in my eyes.

Another given, but this time, there lack of a brain (or heart) is not the cause of the problem.

The problem is US federal banking law, which is a mess to put it mildly. There are corrupt African states run by incompetent military juntas who have better banking systems that the US. An when things go tits up, it takes them ages to sort things out.

It is costing the US a fortune, because no one likes to do business with American companies, not because they don't like the companies, but because it is such a pain to exchange money for services/goods. Part of the reason your economy has still not fully recovered from the crash is down to this.

As an example, the only US companies I currently use are sponsors (because there are very few non US ones), eBay/PayPal (because they have an European division which is separate from the American division, so I do not have to deal with US laws), and ePassporte (which has just confirmed my "never use US companies" rule). For things like hosting, payment processing, affiliate account management, distribution, advertising, etc - for which there are plenty of good US companies I can use - I always use European companies because of the shit problems of dealing with US banking laws.

This is also why ePassporte got so big so quickly. No country likes dealing with US banks, simply because the law on your side of the planet is so unfit for purpose that it makes life difficult for everyone. And when a non US bank does deal with a US bank they charge their clients high. For example to cash a non British cheque from any country other than the US costs me up to about the equivalent of a dollar and a half. To cash a US cheque costs me nearly the equivalent of 20 dollars, over ten times as much! And baring in mind that some sponsors send me a cheque when the amount goes over $50, that means I have to give nearly half my money to the bank (one sponsor even sends out cheques for $35). So going via ePassporte and using ATM to withdraw is the only sensible way to go if you do not live in the US. Since the US now only accounts for less than a third of English Language business on the 'net, any sponsor who does not offer ePassporte is throwing away two thirds of their business, no sane company would do that! So, assuming this matter does get cleared up, eP is here to stay, at least until someone starts a viable alternative.

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Well that is a given. Assuming this gets sorted out, eP will be dead in the water if their clients loose money.

Because there is no legal way he can do this. It would require monumental financial misdealing at eP's end, and if they even tried they are looking at 20+ years in prison. And worse, any US bank account that they do manage to get money into is going to get frozen by the government while they look into it, which will probably take years! You really want to be unable to withdraw any money from your own bank account for the next few years?

Another given, but this time, there lack of a brain (or heart) is not the cause of the problem.

The problem is US federal banking law, which is a mess to put it mildly. There are corrupt African states run by incompetent military juntas who have better banking systems that the US. An when things go tits up, it takes them ages to sort things out.

It is costing the US a fortune, because no one likes to do business with American companies, not because they don't like the companies, but because it is such a pain to exchange money for services/goods. Part of the reason your economy has still not fully recovered from the crash is down to this.

As an example, the only US companies I currently use are sponsors (because there are very few non US ones), eBay/PayPal (because they have an European division which is separate from the American division, so I do not have to deal with US laws), and ePassporte (which has just confirmed my "never use US companies" rule). For things like hosting, payment processing, affiliate account management, distribution, advertising, etc - for which there are plenty of good US companies I can use - I always use European companies because of the shit problems of dealing with US banking laws.

This is also why ePassporte got so big so quickly. No country likes dealing with US banks, simply because the law on your side of the planet is so unfit for purpose that it makes life difficult for everyone. And when a non US bank does deal with a US bank they charge their clients high. For example to cash a non British cheque from any country other than the US costs me up to about the equivalent of a dollar and a half. To cash a US cheque costs me nearly the equivalent of 20 dollars, over ten times as much! And baring in mind that some sponsors send me a cheque when the amount goes over $50, that means I have to give nearly half my money to the bank (one sponsor even sends out cheques for $35). So going via ePassporte and using ATM to withdraw is the only sensible way to go if you do not live in the US. Since the US now only accounts for less than a third of English Language business on the 'net, any sponsor who does not offer ePassporte is throwing away two thirds of their business, no sane company would do that! So, assuming this matter does get cleared up, eP is here to stay, at least until someone starts a viable alternative.

You think any of these companies being temporarily offered have a shot? Like payoneer or Web Money etc?

Does security have anything to do with US Banking problems? I mean I like the idea my money is insured for up to a quarter million or do all countries do that (or at least in Europe)?

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by Charlie

You think any of these companies being temporarily offered have a shot? Like payoneer or Web Money etc?

Does security have anything to do with US Banking problems? I mean I like the idea my money is insured for up to a quarter million or do all countries do that (or at least in Europe)?

I am certain the the ePassporte VISA was suspended due to their inability to satisfy American anti-money laundering laws. Can these other companies satisfy those requirements? It is highly unlikely.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Charlie

You think any of these companies being temporarily offered have a shot? Like payoneer or Web Money etc?

I have no idea about Web Money, but Payoneer has no hope unless they change their policies - see my comments in a earlier post in this thread.

Originally Posted by Charlie

Does security have anything to do with US Banking problems? I mean I like the idea my money is insured for up to a quarter million or do all countries do that (or at least in Europe)?

Originally the problem was simply the American government's fear of foreigners, they put up all sorts of barriers to foreign money to stop non-American companies getting a toe-hold in US trade. Unfortunately no one realised that it worked both ways, and you were keeping foreign money out, screwing up the US balance of payments.

I have also been told (by a bank manager) that the US banking system itself is very backward compared with most European countries, so that the problems are compounded by the fact that American banks simply do not have as high a level of technology as Europe.

I would guess that the current security fears have made things even worse, and the eP problems may (as artwilliams assumes) be wholly or partly triggered by this. But all countries have the same problem, so the US government has no excuse for being worse than elsewhere.

It is also possible that the crash scared more useless regulations into being (but...ditto).

However the shit state of US banking laws is not a new thing, it predates the twin towers attack, I have been having problems for about 20 years, and when I started working internationally it was already very much an old story.

Worryingly, since so many major banking transactions are beginning to rely on Broadband, and America lags far behind Europe in broadband availability, things are probably going to get worse.

In short, George W. had already mortgaged the US's ass to Asia before the crash, now things are even worse. And if the banking system does not pull itself out of the past and get with the program, America will never be able to get enough money in to pay off it's foreign debts. The result will be galloping inflation, low wages, and mass unemployment. So if Mr Ob does not do something pretty drastic pretty quick, the Mexican border will soon be patrolled by Mexican soldiers, desperately trying to stop US citizens sneaking into Mexico looking for work!

|skyfall|

[petergg2]

if they back and work again I will use them again,

because this the best way for me to get small payment's from eg. 10 sponsor's - from $35 to $100 and then immediately take cash at ATM

cashing check in europe for such low amount is problem - cost more money and more time

[hashbury]

Found this at the zoo

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies

Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com

ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services

[twinkerbell]

Originally Posted by hashbury

Found this at the zoo

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies

Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com

ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services

pppfffff....and now our monies are gone...great magic there f@#!*&g EPASS!

[Cleo]

There is nothing to worry about. We are all going to get paid at the same time that iBill pays us.



Again noting to worry about your funds are safe.

[bluebrit]

Just a FYI. I came across this on another forum while searching up to date information on the current epass mess from the latest links on google.

link

I just spoke to "St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank". This is what I got:

Bjorn: What seems to be the problem?
Nevis: We are working on it.

Bjorn: What seems to be the problem? (again)
Nevis: Your funds are safe.

Bjorn: Why are you avoiding the question?
Nevis: I'm not.

Bjorn: So what is the actual problem that you're working on?
Nevis: We're working on it.

Bjorn: Why can't I access my funds?
Nevis: We're working on it.

Bjorn: Where are the funds?
Nevis: We are not obliged to tell you that.

Bjorn: How can I get hold of my money?
Nevis: You can't but your funds are safe.

Nevis: We'll make statement and give more information on the 30th of Sept.
...

By this time I was furious and hanged up. Fucking Scammers.

By the way, anyone who is interested in taking legal action (when orif needed), please contact me by email or PM to register your interest. (after the press release on the 30th Sept). I've already heard from some who are interested.


Now I don't know what truth there is in the above but it does make sense that the bank will need a few days to issue a statement so I think we may have to wait until the 30th to find out what's going to happen.

In the meantime it's a waiting game and I am watching the latest links on google for any other new information regarding this.

[cd34]

IMPORTANT MESSAGE REGARDING YOUR EPASSPORTE ACCOUNT

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies
Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com
ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services

stick a fork in them, they are done. Can't say I am surprised.

[Greenguy]

I just logged in & sure enough, my account is about $100 lighter I had $100 (or so) in there when this all happened. Since then, one sponsor did pay me about $50 - this money is still in there, which is actually a bright light, assuming that I can transfer that $50 over to my normal bank's checking account (which I do have set up in ePass)

I'm not real happy about the $100 I have to now hunt down, but if I can have money sent to ePass by sponsors that can't figure out how to cut checks & then transfer that money to my bank account, that'd still be worth it for me.

[Cleo]

That person who had around a quarter of a million in their account killed themselves.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=988829

[Emerald]

newest on the epassport saga
Source for this post:
https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm

To All SKNANB Visa Prepaid Cardholders

SKNANB is committed to adhering to Visa's stringent program requirements and maintaining the integrity of the global payment network. On instruction of SKNANB, on September 23rd, 2010, ePassporte's network access for cards issued by SKNANB was disabled. As a result, SKNANB prepaid cardholders will not be able to view their card balances through the ePassporte.com website.

SKNANB is actively working to restore, as soon as possible, SKNANB prepaid cardholders' ability to obtain information regarding their Visa card balances and to access Visa card funds. SKNANB prepaid cardholders can expect further communication from SKNANB on or before September 30th 2010.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding your SKNANB prepaid card, please contact SKNANB at vcprepaid@sknanb.com. In addition, a dedicated telephone line will be established shortly.

SKNANB thanks you for your continued patience.

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Limited

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Emerald

newest on the epassport saga
Source for this post:
https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm

To All SKNANB Visa Prepaid Cardholders

SKNANB is committed to adhering to Visa's stringent program requirements and maintaining the integrity of the global payment network. On instruction of SKNANB, on September 23rd, 2010, ePassporte's network access for cards issued by SKNANB was disabled. As a result, SKNANB prepaid cardholders will not be able to view their card balances through the ePassporte.com website.

SKNANB is actively working to restore, as soon as possible, SKNANB prepaid cardholders' ability to obtain information regarding their Visa card balances and to access Visa card funds. SKNANB prepaid cardholders can expect further communication from SKNANB on or before September 30th 2010.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding your SKNANB prepaid card, please contact SKNANB at vcprepaid@sknanb.com. In addition, a dedicated telephone line will be established shortly.

SKNANB thanks you for your continued patience.

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Limited

that actually seems like good news for epass people i never used it since i had it years ago and realized it was fake lol But they seem to have stopped mallicks access to the funds and will pay the righful fund holders their money