Building a relationship with reviewers

[Xeno]

Not sure what I did exactly but thanks Tallyrand for the comment ...by the way, do you have any sites listed with us?

[ynuahayt]

Ok that's it - this thread made up my mind! I'm only gonna wrte a rejection reason to the submitters I know and care about from now on - I was getting tired of writing the same rejections over and over with people not taking notice at all - thanks UW, you made the final push

[bluemoney]

Ponygirl recently sent me rejection on one of my sites because I screwed up. She was correct of course and I noted my error as not to make it again.

However I was unsure as to email her back because I know most LL folks get enough email as it is.

So I guess my question is if it’s proper submitter etiquette to send a return email acknowledging the error?

If yes. Please accept my apology for not responding Ponygirl.

PS. I know how hard folks work to set up and maintain a level of integrity for there LL’s, so I can assure that my aim is to reach that level. But as a “noob” sometimes I miss.

PSS. Oh yeah! I think I’m also supposed to say “ Nice thread you bastard”

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

Ponygirl recently sent me rejection on one of my sites because I screwed up. She was correct of course and I noted my error as not to make it again.

However I was unsure as to email her back because I know most LL folks get enough email as it is.

So I guess my question is if it’s proper submitter etiquette to send a return email acknowledging the error?

If yes. Please accept my apology for not responding Ponygirl.

too late, I already banned and blacklisted your ass j/k

If I know a name from the boards then I will take the time to send out an email - I don't expect a reply, but when I get another sub from you I know that you got it & it's cool

Good submitters are hard to come by so when you get them, you tend to try & keep them.

Ponygirl

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by ponygirl

too late, I already banned and blacklisted your ass j/k

If I know a name from the boards then I will take the time to send out an email - I don't expect a reply, but when I get another sub from you I know that you got it & it's cool

Good submitters are hard to come by so when you get them, you tend to try & keep them.

Ponygirl

Thanks Ponygirl. I can assure you that when any LL reviewer sends me a rejection I take note of my mistake. Should I have a question they will always receive a professional response from me.

This may not be my primary business yet (I hope I hope I hope) but I treat it as such, so when someone takes the time to point out an error I consider that a learning experience.

PS. For just a half second, ya had me going . . . oh shit!

[MeatPounder]

Damn, first both GG&J were acting sorta "sweet" on the boards around the Holidays, and now Useless sounds reasonable. Damn what's happening here?

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

Damn, first both GG&J were acting sorta "sweet" on the boards around the Holidays, and now Useless sounds reasonable. Damn what's happening here?

No worries Meat...just relax and go to sleep...that's it...nice and relaxed...don't even give that pod behind your chair a second thought

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by MrYum

No worries Meat...just relax and go to sleep...that's it...nice and relaxed...don't even give that pod behind your chair a second thought

A naked Brooke Adams
Damn she was yummy in her day

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

Damn, first both GG&J were acting sorta "sweet" on the boards around the Holidays, and now Useless sounds reasonable. Damn what's happening here?

Yes, everything is just fine. Have some more Kool-Aid

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Yes, everything is just fine. Have some more Kool-Aid

Sunshine and Haze were my favs, tho the electri kool ade did do the trick too |egg|

[Jel]

I think there is a "nice peoples syndicate" jumping in and being all warm and fuzzy to people.

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

So if you get a rejection notice - ask. After you ignore a few rejections, it becomes so much easier to just blacklist you. No one wants that. Well, Earl wants to blacklist you, but that's only because you hurt his feelings. You bastard.

Very nice post. The sad thing is that a lot of people do not even bother to read the rejection notice which I do not understand.

What you say about rejection notices and having help is very much true from what I see here. Most of the LL owners have gone out of their way to help people. Some have even started entire forums for that. It really is a valuable resource to have. These days it is rare to even have sponsors this accessable.

[dareutwo]

Neither Jays or Marks sends out rejections - Unless I know you... hint, post here.
If I see your name in posts, newbie or not, I'll send an email.
A couple of you in this thread got them today

I think the pros and cons have already been covered. But time management is really key.

20 submits to the same category day after day doesn't work.
If you're going to become a webmaster, become a webmaster! notice the "Master" part.
Move outside your boundaries, (or the first sponsor you hooked up with that has free content).
This is a business, enough said.

Buy some content, get a good host, and things will improve for you dramatically!!!
(Ie, same sponsor being promoted - but Without sponsor content - Who gets listed first?)
Submitters have to remember that not only do we run LL's, but many also run tgps, or other stuff. Nearly all of us make our own free sites and pages and most of the time we use the sponsor content there. So by the time you submit, we already have it posted.

On average I only get 3-5 emails per week on why they weren't listed, and I answer them all. Like UW said, get to know the reviewer.
I'd said for the most part we're gatekeepers, but it's not like we don't have a clue.

Nice post UW!

I am accessible, just ask (ok, ask nicely)

[Useless]

Excellent addition, Mark. Very well said.

[KG Gary]

Great post UW, and another great thread. It's encouraging to see professionalism shining through.
Looking forward to starting my freesite submittals very soon and seeing if I've absorbed and implemented all of the advice I've received on GG&J.

[MrYum]

Yup, unlike a few other threads recently...THIS thread is what makes GG&J the definitive resource site for link lists/free sites

Knowing who you're working with on the other side of the keyboard is a huge benefit to us all. Just this morning, I got a pm from one of my submitters telling me my site was down. I already knew it was down as we're upgrading the script, but found it very cool to get a message from a submitter to let me know

Meat...yes indeed she was!

[Al51ex]

As a newbie of 3 to 4 months and with all this info about reviewing sites and checking them for compliance with rules.
Does anyone have an idea why I was blacklisted after 2 months of being listed (I unwittingly had a counter, since removed) a rejection email in the first instance would have set me straight from day 1.

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Al51ex

...Does anyone have an idea why I was blacklisted after 2 months of being listed (I unwittingly had a counter, since removed) a rejection email in the first instance would have set me straight from day 1.

From one of the two threads you started about being blacklisted.

http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...43&postcount=2

http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...43&postcount=7

[Al51ex]

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

From one of the two threads you started about being blacklisted.

http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...43&postcount=2

http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...43&postcount=7

Thanks Chopsmith
Thats fine I have checked those and appealed accordingly.
My question is...........
If the sites are so closely reviewed, why was I able to to get listed for two months and then blacklisted when someone noticed I had a counter?
It would have been easier to reject my first site and set me straight.
Al51ex

[Surfn]

I normally only look at decline threads when I see one of my partners name. Or the name of known cheater just see them get caught...again

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Al51ex

If the sites are so closely reviewed, why was I able to to get listed for two months and then blacklisted when someone noticed I had a counter?
It would have been easier to reject my first site and set me straight.
Al51ex

It would have been a lot easier if you would have read the rules first, then you wouldn't have been blacklisted, and then you wouldn't be repeatedly bitching about how YOU fucked up and got blacklisted. What do ya think?

[Al51ex]

Thanks useless warrior,
Thats cool, not bitching. I already acknowledged my mistake just asking those those questions as a newbie on the learning curve.
The more I know the better I get and as they say the only stupid question is that which goes unasked.

[Beaver Bob]

i think its very cool of reviewers to take the time to send rejection emails. i like to know when i fuck up so i dont do it again