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I use them all the time & they are wonderful. 1 1.96%
Some are decent & I use those on a regular basis, but for the most part, they stink. 10 19.61%
I've never seen one that makes decent galleries, so I just build my own or use their Hosted Galleries/Sites. 40 78.43%
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Old 2006-01-13, 06:03 PM   #1
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I would like to take a look at your new builder before I start getting submits
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Old 2006-01-14, 11:02 AM   #2
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Has anyone ever seen one that's actually worth using?
I would like to see much more control with these:

1. Allow us to choose which banner is used in which position as well as how many.

2. Provide a large number of layouts so that these galleries are not oversaturated.

3. If you do recips as well, ideally have a device where webmasters can upload a few custom recips and have this saved in the lounge as well. Also make sure just as with the banners/text link placement that there are many different options to choose from regarding where to place the recip.

4. Allow us to save a configuration for next time that can be used for general use.

5. Make the number of pictures configurable as well as the ability to select certain pictures over others.

Hope my wishlist is helpful!

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Old 2006-01-15, 07:50 AM   #3
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I would like to see much more control with these:

Awesome suggestions and my responses follow.

1. Allow us to choose which banner is used in which position as well as how many.

--------already functional for choice but adding position feature

2. Provide a large number of layouts so that these galleries are not oversaturated.

---------definitely will do as this seems to be the strongest criticism

3. If you do recips as well, ideally have a device where webmasters can upload a few custom recips and have this saved in the lounge as well. Also make sure just as with the banners/text link placement that there are many different options to choose from regarding where to place the recip.

----------we have this in the version we developed for house accounts and will be adding it shortly, with saved recip "concoctions", and placement options

4. Allow us to save a configuration for next time that can be used for general use.

---------this is already possible but will only become truly significant when the other features are added along with their complexities.

5. Make the number of pictures configurable as well as the ability to select certain pictures over others.

---------Great idea and very much within easy reach.

Hope my wishlist is helpful!
I think we can incorporate these features and more innovations that will be make the webmasters efforts less burdonsome and more efficient. We will succeed or may lightning strike me down while i am being eaten by a shark after being tortured by the haitian voodoo mafia and thrown in the sea.
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Old 2006-01-15, 08:04 AM   #4
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...We will succeed or may lightning strike me down while i am being eaten by a shark after being tortured by the haitian voodoo mafia and thrown in the sea.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but if so be sure to get it on video.

Geez Far-L, up early or up late? I dunno if I should be saying g'mornin or g'nite.
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Old 2006-01-15, 06:58 PM   #5
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I think we can incorporate these features and more innovations that will be make the webmasters efforts less burdonsome and more efficient. We will succeed or may lightning strike me down while i am being eaten by a shark after being tortured by the haitian voodoo mafia and thrown in the sea.


I will say this. That you come here, ask us, and actually listen to what we say and consider it goes in your favor. I can really appreciate that concept as I'm sure others can as well.
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Old 2006-01-15, 07:14 PM   #6
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I will say this. That you come here, ask us, and actually listen to what we say and consider it goes in your favor. I can really appreciate that concept as I'm sure others can as well.
Thanks! That is a huge compliment. This board really gives great, as in professional and informative, feedback and I would be a complete fool not to heed the advice of both the old-timers and the noobs here.
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Allfetish - wouldn't it just be easier (and take about the same amount of time) to do that by hand on your local machine?
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Old 2006-01-14, 11:28 AM   #8
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Allfetish - wouldn't it just be easier (and take about the same amount of time) to do that by hand on your local machine?
Pretty much where I end up every time
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GG - aren't all these forums prefab, with the same features and smiles and options. Like every one?

Also GG - in the letter you said:

"But, when you deal with both webmasters and surfers, there is nothing wrong with sending two separate Newsletters. Just, never mix the two."

"Never?" Why - is it a sin? Are you saying webmasters never buy adult content to review? Or that consumer might not want to try out doing affiliate programs? On actual sites aren't there webmaster and consumer links on main and secondary pages together? Will people leave if they see that?

Also, I just checked 15 links from your newsletter, and they used pre-made galleries. All your sponsors recommend them.

As far as copy goes here's a selection from two random clicks on your homepage. I'm not saying anything about these producer's content...

"But, as the electricity rises and the ropes tighten this little whore quickly realizes that she can't escape, can't stop the orgasms, and can't control the electricity."

"Dana takes punishment while hanging from her wrist and balancing on a block of wood. She is then led around like a dog and put in a cage where she must suck cock and get fucked. Finally. she is tied on top of the cage and fucked in the pussy and ass by Chris. Charming."

Again, I'm sure their content is good. But what's the point, these weekly newsletters seem to send conflicting information.

Lastly, do you feel the design of the our green guy list-o-rama is effective? Is it for surfers or webmasters?



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Old 2006-01-15, 06:41 PM   #10
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Allfetish - wouldn't it just be easier (and take about the same amount of time) to do that by hand on your local machine?
Pretty much, Greenguy. The only thing would be is that it makes it easier for people starting out. Those who do not have templates, recip blocks, a database of where to submit, etc.

Also I could forsee something nifty whereby it could take your preferences and when new free content is available, just go ahead and generate the gallery for you.

Er, okay, that would be a little ridiculous! Nevermind. |badidea|
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Does anyone know WTF this IFRvideo is talking about? I think he is trying to get in GG's shit but I can not see where he said anything that relates to this thread (other than the quote).
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Does anyone know WTF this IFRvideo is talking about?
I have no clue. I was hoping someone could translate.
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Does anyone know WTF this IFRvideo is talking about? I think he is trying to get in GG's shit but I can not see where he said anything that relates to this thread (other than the quote).
I have no clue either Chop |confused|
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Old 2006-01-15, 03:25 PM   #14
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Well, one thing... he seems to be confused about who writes and sends the newsletter. (pssst IFRvideo, Jim does the newsletters not GG) As for the rest... ummm I have no idea.
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Well, one thing... he seems to be confused about who writes and sends the newsletter. (pssst IFRvideo, Jim does the newsletters not GG) As for the rest... ummm I have no idea.
I am awake now and think I have it.

1. I write about puking - http://greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=27910

2. Jim comments about it in the newsletter

3. IFRvideo picks the wrong thread to make comments about the newletter
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I am awake now and think I have it.

1. I write about puking - http://greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=27910

2. Jim comments about it in the newsletter

3. IFRvideo picks the wrong thread to make comments about the newletter
Yes yes yes.
Nobody's perfect. yet.

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Old 2006-01-15, 04:39 PM   #17
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I am awake now and think I have it.

1. I write about puking - http://greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=27910

2. Jim comments about it in the newsletter

3. IFRvideo picks the wrong thread to make comments about the newletter
Bingo. We have a winner!


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Yes sir. I'll get right on that.
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Trev, I didn't know Jim wrote it, thanks on that.

Listen guys, I like the radio show, I've listened and there is a lot of information here that is valuable here as well, we have your banner on our site...

I just didn't get the "never" and the dogma-style approach this morning. Seemed the opposite of what this site is and the radio show is, the tone is some of some of the mailed newletters I mean.

That's it. Don't go nutz on this.
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Trev, I didn't know Jim wrote it, thanks on that.

Listen guys, I like the radio show, I've listened and there is a lot of information here that is valuable here as well, we have your banner on our site...

I just didn't get the "never" and the dogma-style approach this morning. Seemed the opposite of what this site is and the radio show is, the tone is some of some of the mailed newletters I mean.

That's it. Don't go nutz on this.
So your post had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread? No wonder I couldn't make any sense of it.
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Old 2006-01-15, 04:56 PM   #20
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I wrote one a while back, pick from templates and images it would make the pages add recipts for posting to tgps and even had a tgp post assistant script to help submit the galleries. Or you could just download it and do what you wanted with it. I didnt like it so we dont even offer it to webmasters to use.

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I'm lost too, but let me take a stab at it

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GG - aren't all these forums prefab, with the same features and smiles and options. Like every one?
Yes, and we (and most other forums) tweak & customize things. Not quite sure how that fits into this thread, which is about TGP Gallery generating scripts & their usefulness.

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Also GG - in the letter you said:

"But, when you deal with both webmasters and surfers, there is nothing wrong with sending two separate Newsletters. Just, never mix the two."

"Never?" Why - is it a sin? Are you saying webmasters never buy adult content to review? Or that consumer might not want to try out doing affiliate programs? On actual sites aren't there webmaster and consumer links on main and secondary pages together? Will people leave if they see that?
That was Jim's comments (as pointed out already) but I will say that I agree 100% with him. You're an idiot if you send newsletters that surfers would be interested in to webmasters & vice versa. If a webmaster wanted surfer themed newsletters, I think they'd probably sign up for them. We ruin a webmaster board & thus, our newsletters cover areas of interest to our webmasters as it pertains to the board & the business.

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Also, I just checked 15 links from your newsletter, and they used pre-made galleries. All your sponsors recommend them.

As far as copy goes here's a selection from two random clicks on your homepage. I'm not saying anything about these producer's content...

"But, as the electricity rises and the ropes tighten this little whore quickly realizes that she can't escape, can't stop the orgasms, and can't control the electricity."

"Dana takes punishment while hanging from her wrist and balancing on a block of wood. She is then led around like a dog and put in a cage where she must suck cock and get fucked. Finally. she is tied on top of the cage and fucked in the pussy and ass by Chris. Charming."

Again, I'm sure their content is good. But what's the point, these weekly newsletters seem to send conflicting information.
Again, I agree with you, but that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread (which I don't think was even in the newsletter today)

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Lastly, do you feel the design of the our green guy list-o-rama is effective? Is it for surfers or webmasters?
If you take the word "our" out of there & correct the title of my site, that questions almost makes sense

I'll assume that's what you meant & say that the design of my personal site that is for surfers to surfer & webmasters to submit to has pretty much been the same since I went to categorized links back in 97 )with the exception of 1 overhaul of the main page) so yes, I think it is effective for surfers to surf & webmasters to submit to, since it's still my main source of income
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Old 2006-01-15, 06:26 PM   #22
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Hi GreenGuy.

Thanks for the reply, detailed - appreciate it.

And I like your photo as well, you remind me of this guitarist from this band Aiwass that used be around NYC... you look just like him.

I knew you weren't a one eyed monster!

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As an affiliate, I'd be pissed if any actual numbers or dollar amounts were posted, but I'd be fine with you letting other affiliates know what my conversion ratios are (since I do that anyway - lol)
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As an affiliate, I'd be pissed if any actual numbers or dollar amounts were posted, but I'd be fine with you letting other affiliates know what my conversion ratios are (since I do that anyway - lol)
Thatīs right. earned amounts and traffic stats are not public matter. If you want me to know it, youīll tell me. But conversion ratios are interesting, at least if they arenīt second or whatnot page clicks. To compare itīs most important for me to get information about how many clicks I sent to a program and where I sent it from.

So most sponsor stats suck in my opinion, because itīs a problem to get a comparable base to other sponsors.
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Thatīs right. earned amounts and traffic stats are not public matter. If you want me to know it, youīll tell me. But conversion ratios are interesting, at least if they arenīt second or whatnot page clicks. To compare itīs most important for me to get information about how many clicks I sent to a program and where I sent it from.

So most sponsor stats suck in my opinion, because itīs a problem to get a comparable base to other sponsors.

I agree - for example, comparing review sites with tgps is definitely apples and oranges - the conversion ratios only hint at what is going on... but maybe there is another way to go about it.

I like the idea of having monthly prizes to top converting, top earning, most traffic, etc. but to me a contest is only good if it is very clear that it is fair and auditable. I have seen so many years of rigged contests in this biz and i am sure many others hold the same skepticism. In everything we do, our actions need to be fully accountable and our methods open to review.
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