Happy Monday Morning

[Tommy]

these storms always pussy out when it gets to long island

i was ready for some good weather
flash lights in every room
generator ready
lanterns charged

spent the day staring out the window but nothing happened :-(

[Halfdeck]

Morning guys,

Well the storm blew off a good part of my wooden fense last night.

Speaking of fenses, there's racism on both sides of the fense. Blacks gets to call the rest of the country all kinds of names and get away with it, while Imus gets canned for one remark. No race is more racist than another - it boils down to balance of power.

Now I don't buy the "this country is getting too PC" angle either Useless. If some newbie mouthed off to one of your friends in a thread, you're not going to just let it slide. You'll stand up for your friend and make the newbie pay (no offense to newbies, I consider myself a newb). That's all that's happening. Imus called these girls a name, and people are standing up to defend them.

[sue-fl]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

He's a humorist. A funny DJ. A little dry for my taste, but that's what he is. In comparison to the other womens team he had on the screen, the Rutgers girls were a bunch of nappy headed hoes. It was a quick, semi-humorous remark. But a few overly-sensitive people want to make it sound so much worse than what it was. And what is so grand about winning at basketball? What's the great accomplishment? Ew, gee, they can get a ball through a hoop! Hell, it's womens college basketball - I'm still shocked that ANYONE was watching them play, let alone Imus.

I don't see the justification for dragging the man through the media gauntlet over a quick remark which was so obviously not intended to be what everyone is claiming it to be. The censorship in this country is out of hand and it's propelled by sound bite-addicted boob tube zombies.

Come on UW it is an accomplishment to win a basket ball championship, and to be an honor student at a University. That means they worked hard and they are smart they should be proud.

This wasn't just one quick remark either on Imus's part. He has been crossing the line for years with his remarks. I think his last remark was just the icing on the cake. I'm glad he got fired and think he deserved it.

I guess I'm one of those overly sensitive people because it really bothered me. I really felt bad for those girls and felt the need to defend them in my own way. So I did in my sig

[Cleo]

Seems to me that if we all get any more uptight politically correct we'll start shitting diamonds.

Don't agree with what Imas said, I personally don't, don't fire the man for speaking his mind but do voice your opinion.

Dialog ends when you kill the messenger.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Don't agree with what Imas said, I personally don't, don't fire the man for speaking his mind but do voice your opinion.

Forgetting about what he said, don't you fire him when all his advertisers leave?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Now I don't buy the "this country is getting too PC" angle either Useless. If some newbie mouthed off to one of your friends in a thread, you're not going to just let it slide. You'll stand up for your friend and make the newbie pay (no offense to newbies, I consider myself a newb). That's all that's happening. Imus called these girls a name, and people are standing up to defend them.

Of course I would defend a friend, but I WOULD NOT ask the board to fucking ban him. That's the difference here. Those dumb little sluts and their ignorant cross-toting reverend flunkies have all the right in the world to bitch and moan about being offended. BUTTTTTTTT - I consider it an attack against free speech for them to work aggressively to rid him of the airways. That's their way of saying that he has no right to HIS FREE SPEECH.

To paraphrase Anthony of O&A, if we all agreed, if we all spoke in an unoffensive manner, there'd be no point to the First Amendment. It wouldn't be necessary. However, we recognize that we will not always agree and we should, therefore, have legally protected free speech.

Why would I think that a handful of pornographers would understand the necessity of free speech?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Those dumb little sluts and their ignorant cross-toting reverend flunkies...

Uh oh. Now Sue is going to call this board's advertisers and ask them to no longer support anyone who allows my offensive, yet free speech. Then GG&Jim will be forced to ban in order to gain back their advertisers.

Get the point?

Those who don't believe in a slippery slope are often found on their ass at the bottom of the hill.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Jim

Forgetting about what he said, don't you fire him when all his advertisers leave?

Free market at its finest.

Sure fire him if he isn't bringing in the bucks.

But he was fired for his remarks. It was after the fact that his advertisers said they were dropping him and not all his advertisers said they were dropping him.

Like I said, I don't agree with what he said and I don't even like the guy or listened to him but when someone is outed for speaking their mind I personally think we are going down a very dark path.

[Jim]

They claim he was fired for his remarks. And Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are happy to agree with that. But, who knows how different it would have been if the advertisers kept quiet and kept paying?

And I do agree with you. Censorship sucks. But like most say, he had the right to say what he said and the public had the right to not buy from the advertisers and the advertisers had the right to stop advertising.

I think hidden deep in this outrage, it was all just a business decision.

[digifan]

It is summer here, 30 C like at Fonz.... I was resting and taking naps all Sunday, with windows open in each and every room, yum... sis told me the smell of the trees and bushes and plants in flowers is magical, all I felt was allergy lol. The weather is still wonderful. But hey, we were heating last June so anything can happen.

Have a great whatever, I am downloading a dvd in 26 parts for hours and have to restart my mini mac often because the host doesn't like me. But I have a dynamic ip.

Peace.

[docholly]

Morning.. and it still is here in the Land of the Lost.

We had massive Rain here this moring then suddenly at 730am.. it all went away and the sun shone. go figure...

I'm hanging around a bunch-o-broadcasters .. tho i printed some of GG's blog rants on the lack of HD content and put them in various boxes in the Press room.. Hopefully they will take heed.

Of course the Buzz is all about 1st Amendment rights.. Imus etc..

...and I can just say there is really only one group that across the board it is still OK to make fun of, both publically and privately .. and that's Phat People. Guess we need an "Al Sharpton" to be our advocate.

Have a good one..it's back to roaming the halls...

[Halfdeck]

I WOULD NOT ask the board to fucking ban him.

Ok, but if Greenie banned him it wouldn't break your heart either, right?

[SheepGuy]

I'm from Canada. What the hell does "nappy headed" mean, and why is it so offensive
I'd honestly never heard the term before all of this.

[Jim]

Nappy Headed is someone with kinky or frizzy hair. The racism of the term goes way back in America.

It seems kind of strange to have this discussion in a good morning thread

[Jim]

As for the free speach aspect of it. There is no free speech on a corporate or privately owned radio or TV station. Just like any message board.

I could see the free speech issue coming up if Imus was at a public KKK get together and said what he said. But he was on a corporate owned radio station and a corporate owned tv station. Like I said, just business.

[T Pat]

I’m a Imus fan, it pissed me off when I reached over at 4AM this morning to turn Imus In The Morning on and got Al Rocker and assorted call in guests bitching about Imus crossing that imaginary line.
Why wasn’t he fired for calling Bush a Buffoon?
Why wasn’t he fired for implying that Dick Cheny convinced a very simple minded George Bush to go to war so he could get kick backs from Halliburton?
Where was the Gay Community when Imus went off on Cheny’s Lesbian Daughter?
Where was the overweight community when he was teasing his chubby sports announcer about his upcoming wedding?
Why haven’t the Democrats or the Clintons shut him down for having a Bill Clinton Impersonator on once or twice a week.
My point is Imus doesn’t single out anyone, if your in the news chances are he’s going to make fun of you.
Imus sure as hell didn’t coin the phrase “nappy haired ho’s” (you know it had to have been a black man) So lets all forget about Imus raising over 100 million for charities or his camp for kids with cancer, crucify the man he crossed the line.

[stuveltje]

Good evening all Got a huge headeach, did visite the fatherinlaw at the hospital, my kids dont like to see their grandad there, still funny to hear my son saying, heay i didnt know grandad had sucha big belly
Finally my treatmill arrived today and ofcourse my kids are fuckng around with the damn thing, also didnt know i bought sucha big treatmill....i miss calculate the size big time, also the weight of that thing ...230 pounds, hubby and me where thinking how the hell we could get that thing upstairs, we manage in about 6 minutes, but both needed oxigen afterwards, plus we damage the walpaper and the floor...but who cares that thing is upstairs and stays there for the rest of our life.
Again F84 here but this evening we notice more wind, tomorrow we will have a temp of F52....damn how to get sick.
I am realy tired thats because i worried about my father inlaw and my kids an hubby, if they are sad i am sad. Well tomorrow a new day , so you all have a great day!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by T Pat

My point is Imus doesn’t single out anyone, if your in the news chances are he’s going to make fun of you.

I'm not sure I could call myself an Imus fan, as I probably saw parts of his simulcasted broadcast on MSNBC only a few times per month. I've seen enough to have a broad idea of who he is. His politics were all over the place, and not always in line with my own. That always bugs me.

Anyone who claims that Imus has had a track record of offensive, possibly racist, comments over his almost 40 year career in broadcasting, I can only say - fuck yeah! I'm in absolute agreement. He was the original shock jock, so of course he has made his fair share of offensive remarks. Big whoop! Offensive is funny. Racism is funny, unless you're a racist and don't get the joke.

That bitch (with a capital CUNT), Ann Coulter, recently referred to presidential hopeful, John Andrews, as a faggot. Very offensive remark. Lots of people bitched. But she's still on the conservative/nazish talk shows all the time. I didn't even hear of a single book burning event.

[sue-fl]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Uh oh. Now Sue is going to call this board's advertisers and ask them to no longer support anyone who allows my offensive, yet free speech. Then GG&Jim will be forced to ban in order to gain back their advertisers.

Get the point?

No I won't because this is not my workplace it's a forum where Freedom of Speech is in effect.

I did remove my comment in my sig file which seemed to start all this.

I'm mad because he singled out a group that didn't deserve it is all. Nothing to do with racism or freedom of speech. But then I figured by me posting Imus is an asshole I was lowering myself to his level. Which would be REALLY insulting.

[Greenguy]

Anyone that hasn't noticed the text above my avatar should read it & then leave if you're offended, because the right Free Speech means the right to offend people.

[Tommy]

I am so shocked that anybody cares that Imus got fired. If you ask me they are all a bunch of idiots making millions of dollars complaining about other people

I love MSNBC but I could never get into an idiot in a cowboy hat doing a radio show on TV. You dont watch radio, you listen to it

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Tommy

...I love MSNBC but I could never get into an idiot in a cowboy hat doing a radio show on TV. You dont watch radio, you listen to it

I love ya Tommy, but I disagree with you on a couple points:

1 - the point really isn't if you liked or disliked Imus - we all have remote controls & we all know how to turn the channel if we see a show that we don't like.

2 - I do like to watch radio - and others do as well. I have PalTalk (a webcam service) so that I can watch Opie & Anthony while the show is going on. Stern had that show on E! for years. There's a number of sports radio shows that are broadcast on TV. I think part of it is that the radio show is not available in every market, but pretty much everyone has cable, so more people will listen/watch.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by sue-fl

I'm mad because he singled out a group that didn't deserve it is all.

Sue, they weren't singled out. People act as if he spent half an hour discussing those b-balling chicks. It was a passing comment which was merely a reaction to a lead-up by another person. It's not as if the producers of the show gathered in a conference before the show said, "hey, let's insult the Rutgers' Womens Basketball team." Unsuspecting people are insulted everyday on radio and tv. Most of them take it in stride, realizing that it is what it is - a total stranger making millions of dollars entertaining his/her listeners. Nothing more. If they feel truly harmed by it, well they must be unusually weak in the character department.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by T Pat

Where was the overweight community when he was teasing his chubby sports announcer about his upcoming wedding?

That was my question too.. we need a Sharpton for the Phat Pholks. Dammit..

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Tommy

I love MSNBC but I could never get into an idiot in a cowboy hat doing a radio show on TV. You dont watch radio, you listen to it

Now that is fucking funny!