Why now baned? - Page 3

Berkut · 2004-10-09, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by plateman
AdvancedHosters - Well If 5 or 10% are cheats, just wait till the honest ones leave and whoever is left ban them and start over and you'll know who not to host

plateman

How can a hoster separate cheater from a honest webmaster? He needs to watch all his clients. But what to do if he got 10000 clients who post to LL? And 9800 of them do not cheat. Right - hoster need your help, owner

skygsi · 2004-10-09, 09:35 PM

Oh noooo, don't n ban now advanced. i'am only tonight start move my freesites from hq.

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Surfn
You don't have applications for hosting? No terms to enforce? No scripts or bots to see who is doing what on your servers?

If the answer is no to any of the above therein lies the problem.

1st think then post.
scripts to filter what? to filter who's breaking some LL rules?
scripts can filter only stupid cheaters.

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plateman
AdvancedHosters - Well If 5 or 10% are cheats, just wait till the honest ones leave and whoever is left ban them and start over and you'll know who not to host

plateman

U really think that i host only those who post to LL? :-) :-) :-)

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by swedguy
When new domains are added, wouldn't it be pretty easy to spot domains like this?

seerape.com
onlyrape.com
forbiddenrapes.com
forced-rape.com

All of them are hosted at Advanced Hosters. Even if domains are added through a script, it's fairly easy to filter them out, IF you really want to.

as i know fantasy rape isn't illegal.
isn't it?
and somebody here mentioned that "drunk mom and son's friend" also unacceptable. it may be unacceptable. but it's not illeagel as long as mom and son's friend are over 18
isn't it?
so "illegal" and "prohibited by LL rules" are little bit different things...

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
1st think then post.
scripts to filter what? to filter who's breaking some LL rules?
scripts can filter only stupid cheaters.

I should think?

Ok, I think you are in this for the money and fuck the honest LL/TGP owners.

I think you can't answer a straightforward question.

I think that it is your hosting and you could stop cheaters anytime you wanted to.

I think you are laughing your ass off all the way to the bank.

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Surfn
I think that it is your hosting and you could stop cheaters anytime you wanted to.

could U please explain how will i filter who's cheating and who's not??? do i have to download & print all LL rules and check every f'ing domain if it doesn't break some LL rules???
nonsence :-)

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
could U please explain how will i filter who's cheating and who's not??? do i have to download & print all LL rules and check every f'ing domain if it doesn't break some LL rules???
nonsence :-)

That's exactly why your hosting is banned

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Surfn
That's exactly why your hosting is banned

nice answer :-) i mean very, very very cleaver answer :-)

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
nice answer :-) i mean very, very very cleaver answer :-)

The truth is never clever it's always simple.

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Surfn
The truth is never clever it's always simple.

truth? the truth is that U just don't have an answer for my last question.

well, there's no sence in this discussion... good luck in banning various hosts :-)

Cleo · 2004-10-09, 10:34 PM

I think the question is why are there so many hosts not full of rape, incest, and cheating fuckers?

Guess these hosts must be a bit more picky of who they will host.

Good luck with your business model AdvancedHosters and may your mom get drunk and raped by the little boys next door while you join in.

skygsi · 2004-10-09, 10:35 PM

Surfn.
Hosting support must delite cheaters and ILLEGAL items. They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules.
Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
truth? the truth is that U just don't have an answer for my last question.

well, there's no sence in this discussion... good luck in banning various hosts :-)

Very good. It isn't your responsibility. You don't want to answer my questions but want me to answer yours. WTF??? Enjoy your raping honest webmasters by getting taking their money and assuming no responsibility for the crap you host.

You are correct, this conversation is going no where. YOUR hosting was, is, and will be banned.

Have a good day

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by skygsi
Surfn.
Hosting support must delite cheaters and ILLEGAL items. They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules.

Correct our rules. And you want to submit to us for OUR traffic. I do not think so.

skygsi · 2004-10-09, 10:41 PM

Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!
today i change my hosting from hqhost to advansed host. U ban andvansed too? Who will be the next? Give me list..I can't everyday change hosting

Cleo · 2004-10-09, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by skygsi
They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules.

It is our rules and our traffic and if the host would like their clients to be able to share in our traffic then it is up to them not to allow webmasters to be hosted that fuck up everything for the honest webmasters.

DangerDave · 2004-10-09, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
as i know fantasy rape isn't illegal.
isn't it?

There is no FANTASY in rape!

Ask anyone who has been raped!

hqhost
advancedhosters
realitychecknetwork

all banned here !

DD

Useless · 2004-10-09, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
as i know fantasy rape isn't illegal.
isn't it?
and somebody here mentioned that "drunk mom and son's friend" also unacceptable. it may be unacceptable. but it's not illeagel as long as mom and son's friend are over 18
isn't it?
so "illegal" and "prohibited by LL rules" are little bit different things...

Any display which appears to be rape, non-consensual sex, or incest is in violation of obscenity laws. Plus, all of those types of porn are for truly sick fucks. No respectable host would allow such shit on their servers.

For a host, it is a huge pain in the balls to screen, filter, and perform spot checks on their clients. But the hosts NEED those clients and NEED them to be clean. Link lists receive so many quality submissions every day, they don't have a reason to deal with shit subs and their hosts. There is nothing motivating them to do so.

Yes, cheaters can migrate to other hosts. But for most hosts, flags go off when they see domains such as those listed above. I tend to believe that most hosts have a much better idea of what is on their servers because they realize that both the adult webmaster community and the authorities will hold them responsible.

AdvancedHosters · 2004-10-09, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Cleo
I think the question is why are there so many hosts not full of rape, incest, and cheating fuckers?

Guess these hosts must be a bit more picky of who they will host.

Good luck with your business model AdvancedHosters and may your mom get drunk and raped by the little boys next door while you join in.

oh, another cleaver answer...
but why nobody can say HOW to filter cheaters? how to be "more picky"? how to filter that f'ing 1% out of all customers?

please, no more "cleaver" answers.... just one thing... in 2 monthes let us know if U'll have less cheater submissions... that's all i'd like to know :-)
coz after host ban cheater doesn't disappear... he just moves to other host... so would be interesting to know if there will be less cheaters on the net after hq & ah ban :-)

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by skygsi
Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!
today i change my hosting from hqhost to advansed host. U ban andvansed too? Who will be the next? Give me list..I can't everyday change hosting

Ask those hosts to clean up their act and get themselves unbanned. Until then your are THEIR victim.

skygsi · 2004-10-09, 11:02 PM

i know.
post to great link list gg, cleo and others
i shoul y dedicated server special for u?
Or evere week change hosting becose someone see every where cheaters?
U a crazy?
Why good webmasters have so much trouble?
Or may be better u say directly:
< WE DON't Like RUSSIAN they ALL CHEATERS!>
|skull|

RawAlex · 2004-10-09, 11:34 PM

here's the deal. If there was only one cheater in 10,000 domains, it wouldn't be an issue. On hqhost, I am going to say that AT LEAST 1000 domains are bullshit. Rape, redirection pros, etc.

No, we don't expect a host to be able to filter out all the problems, but individual webmasters cannot expect link sites to spend their entire lives trying to filter out all the shit to find the one piece of gold.

Yes, it is a bit like police using "profiling", but in reality, I have a certain amount of time a day that I want to put into reviewing sites, and I want to be listing more sites that are good, not reviewing and declining hundreds of shit sites.

The most economic thing to do is filter IPs, filter emails, and filter hosts.

If the scammers move to another host, we will end up blocking that host too. Sooner or later, the hosts will wise up and get a little more selective in the customers and content they are willing to handle.

Just one of those things...

Alex

CelticTiger · 2004-10-10, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
There is no FANTASY in rape!

Ask anyone who has been raped!

hqhost
advancedhosters
realitychecknetwork

all banned here !

DD

Spot on DD. BTW DangerDave can you say if you're pleased with your choice on taking only partner only submissions? Has it decreased your workload significantly?

Greenguy · 2004-10-10, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Max
Who will suffer in case you ban "russian" hosts?

Where the host is located has nothing to do with our decisions. I've banned hosts here in the States.

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Quote:

Originally posted by AdvancedHosters
1st think then post.
scripts to filter what? to filter who's breaking some LL rules?
scripts can filter only stupid cheaters.

I'm sure you could easily do some searches for undesirable words & terms (rape, incest, l*lita, pret**n, etc) Unless of course, you don't mind having those kinds of sites on your servers.

If I was gonna do this kind of stuff, I'd search for those terms on Google, find a few sites, see where they were hosted & then get an account.

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Originally posted by skygsi
Surfn.
Hosting support must delite cheaters and ILLEGAL items. They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules.
Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!

EXACTLY! Our sites, our rules.

And everyone, please stop saying "the cheaters will just move to new hosting & get new domains" - I say go for it! Spend some cash on new domains, move all your shit to a new host & if they put up with the bullshit, we'll all just ban that host too. Then the cycle can start over again.....

Remember, if you're in a car with 3 other people & the cops pull you over & find an 8 ball on someone, you all get arrested, regardless of if you knew the coke was in the car or not.

2004-10-09, 10:34 PM	#62
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I think the question is why are there so many hosts not full of rape, incest, and cheating fuckers? Guess these hosts must be a bit more picky of who they will host. Good luck with your business model AdvancedHosters and may your mom get drunk and raped by the little boys next door while you join in. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-10-09, 10:35 PM	#63
skygsi Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: RUSSIA\Moscow Posts: 14	Surfn. Hosting support must delite cheaters and ILLEGAL items. They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules. Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?! Last edited by skygsi; 2004-10-09 at 10:38 PM..

2004-10-09, 11:02 PM	#72
skygsi Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: RUSSIA\Moscow Posts: 14	i know. post to great link list gg, cleo and others i shoul y dedicated server special for u? Or evere week change hosting becose someone see every where cheaters? U a crazy? Why good webmasters have so much trouble? Or may be better u say directly: < WE DON't Like RUSSIAN they ALL CHEATERS!> \|skull\| Last edited by skygsi; 2004-10-09 at 11:07 PM..

2004-10-09, 09:35 PM	#52
skygsi Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: RUSSIA\Moscow Posts: 14	Oh noooo, don't n ban now advanced. i'am only tonight start move my freesites from hq.

2004-10-09, 10:41 PM	#66
skygsi Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: RUSSIA\Moscow Posts: 14	Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?! today i change my hosting from hqhost to advansed host. U ban andvansed too? Who will be the next? Give me list..I can't everyday change hosting

2004-10-09, 11:34 PM	#73
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	here's the deal. If there was only one cheater in 10,000 domains, it wouldn't be an issue. On hqhost, I am going to say that AT LEAST 1000 domains are bullshit. Rape, redirection pros, etc. No, we don't expect a host to be able to filter out all the problems, but individual webmasters cannot expect link sites to spend their entire lives trying to filter out all the shit to find the one piece of gold. Yes, it is a bit like police using "profiling", but in reality, I have a certain amount of time a day that I want to put into reviewing sites, and I want to be listing more sites that are good, not reviewing and declining hundreds of shit sites. The most economic thing to do is filter IPs, filter emails, and filter hosts. If the scammers move to another host, we will end up blocking that host too. Sooner or later, the hosts will wise up and get a little more selective in the customers and content they are willing to handle. Just one of those things... Alex