Signups only paid if surfer stays 4+ hours

[CD Smith]

Originally Posted by LB

If you cold sell the surfer or promise things that aren't offered by the paysite then you are handing the paysite a hot potato so to speak. You may argue that most people presell the sponsor, but I have to say that most affiliates don't do it very well, or over boast what a sponsor has to offer.

Maybe sponsors should be checking their affiliates from time to time and oh, I don't know, maybe cancelling their accounts if they are found to be promising things that the site doesn't deliver? Most of my sponsors provide approved text and I generally base my descriptions on that information, and not on something I pulled out of my ass.

Originally Posted by LB

Im not a fan of the 4 hour cancel time, but if they have a quality members area (eg nastydollars have great members areas), then I can certianly see it as being a safeguard for the sponsor paying a very nice $35-40pps.

I'm sure there are plenty of good sponsors with excellent sites that do NOT have the 4-hour caveat in their TOS though. Like a few others have said here, it also smacks of being an excuse to shave the affiliate.

You're right, it IS a partnership, even when it is a pay-per-signup agreement.... but I consider my job done if I have properly and honestly referred the intitial sale. After that it is the sponsor's job to keep that sale. Period. Not to mention all the work I did to build my sites and traffic, that's all part of the scenario too. If given a choice between promoting a "4-hour" sponsors and one with no "4-hour" caveat, I'm very likely to go with the latter.

[LB]

Originally Posted by CD Smith

Maybe sponsors should be checking their affiliates from time to time and oh, I don't know, maybe cancelling their accounts if they are found to be promising things that the site doesn't deliver? Most of my sponsors provide approved text and I generally base my descriptions on that information, and not on something I pulled out of my ass.

I'm sure there are plenty of good sponsors with excellent sites that do NOT have the 4-hour caveat in their TOS though. Like a few others have said here, it also smacks of being an excuse to shave the affiliate.

You're right, it IS a partnership, even when it is a pay-per-signup agreement.... but I consider my job done if I have properly and honestly referred the intitial sale. After that it is the sponsor's job to keep that sale. Period. Not to mention all the work I did to build my sites and traffic, that's all part of the scenario too. If given a choice between promoting a "4-hour" sponsors and one with no "4-hour" caveat, I'm very likely to go with the latter.

You are obviously a responsible webmaster and I am assuming that preselling the surfer responsibly is 2nd nature to you, but not to most.

The fact of the matter is that even a small-medium webmaster program wouldn't have the time to check their webmasters for anything but the worst breaches.

Hell I agree with just about everything said in this thread except for the suggestion that its exclusively the sponsors fault if they dont conver/retain.

[Head Boy]

A massive j/script binary in the HTML puts me off more than a 4 hour cancellation clause.

[airdick]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

A massive j/script binary in the HTML puts me off more than a 4 hour cancellation clause.

I don't see any javascipt on the mainpage for affiliates, all I see is some flash .

I see some javascript on one of the tour pages I looked at but it didn't look like anything bad to me.

Can you post the offending code or a url?

[Head Boy]

It was the index page for one of the sites - the bondage one if I remember correctly. I couldn't display it as I'd turned off j/script. When I viewed the source I found a massive block of binary in a j/script statement. I assume it wasn't malicious, but I've no idea what it does as I just closed out and moved on.