Link O'Rama Rule Changes (yipee) - Page 4

WarBot · 2006-08-16, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WarBot

See, you list my sites on link-o-rama and porn movie links. I dont submit crappy content sites right? Yes Im an insecure little man.

Anyone can go ahead and replay to this. I decided that Im ok if you just say it to make me feel better.

virgohippy · 2006-08-16, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WarBot

Anyone can go ahead and replay to this. I decided that Im ok if you just say it to make me feel better.

Lol!

What's the matter WarBot, not catching any fish?

I like the two freesites I've seen. And those new banners of yours are pretty nifty.

Preacher · 2006-08-16, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kinky Jones

are you sure it isn't all those Xany bars?

Actually I'm poor so I buy the generic, so they're not bars their actually ovals...but yes that could be what's doing it.

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Originally Posted by Preacher

You know there was a depraved porn movie with a girl wrapped in a giant burrito that I would love to reference right now, but it seems that age is taking a toll on my old noggan.

I just love responding to myself...

"(Aurora Snow) mentioned her stint as a 'human burrito' in one volume of Jim Powers' Perverted Stories."

I am a very sick man...|goodnight

WarBot · 2006-08-16, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by virgohippy

Lol!

What's the matter WarBot, not catching any fish?

I like the two freesites I've seen. And those new banners of yours are pretty nifty.

Haha, now I dont know if youre serious or just saying it to make me feel better. Either way, thanks

I thought those custom banners were pretty cool. I tried to let the surfer know that even though the videos were softcore of her that they could see her getting boned if they joined up to the site

She is very hot though, such a cute face and pretty smile. Those guys have some very hot models, most of them are all natural too. I love that.

Cheers
WB

Carrie · 2006-08-17, 12:26 AM

I'm happy that you're finally allowing 1024-width sites. I've been on here asking/debating that before, saying the LLs are demanding bigger pics but keeping us throttled to 800x600 displays in spite of the overwhelming majority of surfers being at 1024x768 or higher.

For those of you who are saying "it's only 2 more pics"... umm, no... it's 4 more pics. That's a 20% increase in the free porn you're giving to the surfer. Still seem like "not so much"?
(Btw not many seem to marry the "it's only 2 more pics" with the words "per gallery".)

It's actually funny to see the other LL owners jumping on the bandwagon. I think if Greenie said "you must fart while submitting", pretty soon most of the LLs would have that rule as well! *wink*

The no pics on html rule... well I guess the reasoning for this is less pages to check, but really, taking away advertising space is purposely hurting us. Additional pics, additional size all equal up to more bandwidth to please your surfers, but we can't advertise as much. Would you reconsider that rule?

Useless · 2006-08-17, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrie

For those of you who are saying "it's only 2 more pics"... umm, no... it's 4 more pics. That's a 20% increase in the free porn you're giving to the surfer. Still seem like "not so much"?
(Btw not many seem to marry the "it's only 2 more pics" with the words "per gallery".)

Are you saying that we are stupid or deciptive? Get over it. It's done.

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Originally Posted by Carrie

It's actually funny to see the other LL owners jumping on the bandwagon. I think if Greenie said "you must fart while submitting", pretty soon most of the LLs would have that rule as well! *wink*

You won't see my rules change. I may agree with the Green One's changes and the reasoning behind them, but that doesn't mean that I think they're so grand that I wish to institute them myself. In fact, I'm going to open my admin right now and reject a couple of sites in protest of GG's rules. Then I'm going to reject 10 or so more due to you implying that we are all sheep. Baaaah, right back at ya.

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Originally Posted by Carrie

The no pics on html rule... well I guess the reasoning for this is less pages to check, but really, taking away advertising space is purposely hurting us. Additional pics, additional size all equal up to more bandwidth to please your surfers, but we can't advertise as much. Would you reconsider that rule?

Most link lists haven't allowed full sized pics on their own HTML pages in quite awhile. And yes, it is meant to intentionally hurt the submitter. List owners sit around conspiring against free site builders on a fucking daily basis.

Must be nice and quiet under that rock.

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrie

I'm happy that you're finally allowing 1024-width sites. I've been on here asking/debating that before, saying the LLs are demanding bigger pics but keeping us throttled to 800x600 displays in spite of the overwhelming majority of surfers being at 1024x768 or higher.

You make it seem like you're the only one who's posed this issue before.

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Originally Posted by Carrie

It's actually funny to see the other LL owners jumping on the bandwagon. I think if Greenie said "you must fart while submitting", pretty soon most of the LLs would have that rule as well! *wink*

Actually, a few other LL owners have been more than ready to implement changes similar to what Greenie outlined. In fact, a few already have. Greenie isn't the first. He's just, argueably, the most well known.

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 02:22 AM

Missed this point...

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Originally Posted by Carrie

The no pics on html rule... well I guess the reasoning for this is less pages to check, but really, taking away advertising space is purposely hurting us. Additional pics, additional size all equal up to more bandwidth to please your surfers, but we can't advertise as much. Would you reconsider that rule?

I imagine not accepting sites because there just isn't enough time in the day to check them is even more harmful to submitters.

And FYI, some sites DO accept pic pages. If you're that concerned about it, group your recips by who does and build 'em.

WarBot · 2006-08-17, 02:38 AM

I guess the point that really hit home with me is when someone said (Im too lazy to look and see who) that link lists have to compete with tgp's. Its 1 click to get to the free porn compared to... more than 1 (Now Im too lazy to count). The only way to compete is with higher quality. Link lists get alot of search engine traffic, and I think alot of it is eventually lost to tgp's. This will help to prevent that. So I think its going to be better for everyone. Link lists will keep more bookmarkers, free site builders will have the benefit of the extra traffic to their sites.

I finally get it.

LB · 2006-08-17, 03:22 AM

My personal opinion aside looks like we have a new standard and what is done is done.

My question is ... does this count for sponsor hosted freesites aswell? We have a tidy little collection of them in for Titanbucks and just want to know if we will need to go through and update them all?

Cheers.

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WarBot

I guess the point that really hit home with me is when someone said

I elaborated on just that, but I wasn't the only one who pointed it out. I think for a lot of people here it was a generally understood thing.

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Originally Posted by WarBot

I finally get it.

I think the other board members sensed you would. Tis why there is no harm in open and honest dialogue.

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LB

My question is ... does this count for sponsor hosted freesites aswell? We have a tidy little collection of them in for Titanbucks and just want to know if we will need to go through and update them all?

Greenie says old listings will be grandfathered in. So I guess for LOR newly made sites will just need to be made accordingly.

However, freehosted sites get pulled by webmasters at various odd times, so I guess it all amounts to whether it's easier to continue to make new ones, or to adjust the old.

I think you're right in assuming a new standard will emerge (don't forget to fart whenever you submit sites

) but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of tweaking before there's a stone tablet all LL owners bow down to.

Fonz · 2006-08-17, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Most link lists haven't allowed full sized pics on their own HTML pages in quite awhile. And yes, it is meant to intentionally hurt the submitter. List owners sit around conspiring against free site builders on a fucking daily basis.

You weren't supposed to make this public!!! DAMN IT!

Oh yeah and those 4 pics extra are really hurting our bizz, I'm going to introduce the 1 page with 1 link and no pics freesite!! Boy am I going to get rich

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrie

...For those of you who are saying "it's only 2 more pics"... umm, no... it's 4 more pics. That's a 20% increase in the free porn you're giving to the surfer. Still seem like "not so much"?
(Btw not many seem to marry the "it's only 2 more pics" with the words "per gallery".)...

Well, a 10% increase to 22 total & 11 per page would just be silly - who makes galleries with 11 pics?

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Originally Posted by Carrie

...It's actually funny to see the other LL owners jumping on the bandwagon. I think if Greenie said "you must fart while submitting", pretty soon most of the LLs would have that rule as well! *wink*...

It honestly never even crossed my mind that others would follow suit until Fonz joked about it after I posted. Let's all remember that if you build sites that fit at 800 & follow the rest of the rules, you'll still get listed at most places. Plus, with a little testing, you can build sites that have tables set to 100% that still fit at 800 (but please, test them out & make sure they look decent before you submit them)

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Originally Posted by Carrie

...The no pics on html rule... well I guess the reasoning for this is less pages to check, but really, taking away advertising space is purposely hurting us. Additional pics, additional size all equal up to more bandwidth to please your surfers, but we can't advertise as much. Would you reconsider that rule?

I got rid of this rule because I can honestly not remember the last time I had a site submitted that had pics on html pages. It seemed like it was a useless rule.

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Originally Posted by LB

...My question is ... does this count for sponsor hosted freesites aswell? We have a tidy little collection of them in for Titanbucks and just want to know if we will need to go through and update them all?...

Any site that's listed with a date prior to August 21 2006 will not have the new rules applied to it EVER! MML will still be checking all the sites by hand from time to time, but only sites listed after Monday will be re-reviewed with the new rules.

...and everyone knows that LL's bend the rules for HFS's from time to time

sue-fl · 2006-08-17, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WarBot

If your picture is 600 x 450 thats 600 + 450 = 1050. Its just long side + short side is all. No complex formula's just addition (luckily for me too lol)

Cheers
WB

Thanks WarBot at least I know what size to use now! Have to be honest with you though addition is a complex formula for me

And believe it or not I did manage to graduate from High School hell even college!

I just wonder when I go bigger in my pic size if I'm going to get rejected at other LL's? There is no way in hell I would not submit to Greenie's LL so I'll change things. And no I'm not kissing ass, Linkorama is always in the top traffic sender in my stats. Not going to give that up!

LB · 2006-08-17, 10:03 AM

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Any site that's listed with a date prior to August 21 2006 will not have the new rules applied to it EVER! MML will still be checking all the sites by hand from time to time, but only sites listed after Monday will be re-reviewed with the new rules.

...and everyone knows that LL's bend the rules for HFS's from time to time

Thanks for the answer

I think we will redo them anyhow so they are in line with the new rule sets.

JustRobert · 2006-08-17, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz

Oh yeah and those 4 pics extra are really hurting our bizz, I'm going to introduce the 1 page with 1 link and no pics freesite!! Boy am I going to get rich

Can I submit 2 sites a day

ponygirl · 2006-08-17, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sue-fl

I just wonder when I go bigger in my pic size if I'm going to get rejected at other LL's? There is no way in hell I would not submit to Greenie's LL so I'll change things. And no I'm not kissing ass, Linkorama is always in the top traffic sender in my stats. Not going to give that up!

Sue, I don't think you'll get rejected for bigger pic sizes...we'll just have to keep an eye on the weight. I'm used to optimizing to about 60kb or so, I'm going to up it to just under 80. That should still be ok for most LLs. (I hope

)

I have only seen a few LLs that have a weight rule, I'd like to see what they think too.

docholly · 2006-08-17, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinky Jones

what are we all gonna do when Greenie starts making us build for all the people that are buying widescreen monitors and laptops which are all the rage today? I want stuff to look good on my 42" plasma monitor and my 50" HD monitor in the living room too

and i'm thinking how can i compress it to fit into that tiny mobile screen on ESPN fone, or IPOD or PSP and still be able to see tits???

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LB

...I think we will redo them anyhow so they are in line with the new rule sets.

I'd like to go on record by saying that I do not encourage or expect people to go thru their old sites & adjust them to fit the new rules.

Seems there's threads on 3 other boards about this (Netpond, Medium Pimpin & a 3rd that's in a language that 99.44% of my surfers don't speak) Please do not go by anything that is posted as fact or hearsay in those threads, as I really don't want to go from board to board explaining things, especially the existence of unofficial rules

Fonz · 2006-08-17, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

Seems there's threads on 3 other boards about this (Netpond, Medium Pimpin & a 3rd that's in a language that 99.44% of my surfers don't speak) Please do not go by anything that is posted as fact or hearsay in those threads, as I really don't want to go from board to board explaining things, especially the existence of unofficial rules

Just read the other threads, it seems like the sky is falling again

|skyfall|

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 10:59 AM

Well, it is Fonz! Bigger pics to go with bigger sites that fit on bigger monitors!?!?!?!?!! WTF is wrong with me!?!?!?!?!?!

I really wish I had the next 2 things ready to be released, because now it's going to look like I'm kissing every submitters ass when I do announce them.

Or maybe I won't announce them at all - just put them into place & see who notices - because

forbid people get upset with things that I think will benefit surfers & webmasters to my site

swedguy · 2006-08-17, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinky Jones

if you go to a grocery store and get a free sample and it tastes like shit are you going to buy some of it? hell no but if it tastes great you MIGHT buy some

Who do you think sell the most?

A sales guy that really know his product and give away free samples to give the customer a feel for the product but HE sells the product?

Or a guy that doesn't know his product, but give away free samples and hope that the product will sell itself?

EDIT: Clarified. Comparing apples to apples

Mr. Blue · 2006-08-17, 11:16 AM

With the way these new rules have been spreading on boards I thought I'd have to give a urine sample with each submit (I'd still win the Tour de France though).

Seems to me like these are straight forward rules that a lot of webmasters have already been using for awhile now and it really isn't that dramatic of a change. So, why is everyone getting so excited over it? lol.

Too bad though, I think I've missed the opportunity to join in the mass hysteria and now I feel leftout.

Jim · 2006-08-17, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

Seems there's threads on 3 other boards about this (Netpond, Medium Pimpin & a 3rd that's in a language that 99.44% of my surfers don't speak) Please do not go by anything that is posted as fact or hearsay in those threads, as I really don't want to go from board to board explaining things, especially the existence of unofficial rules

I noticed that unofficial rules post

I talked to you the day you decided on the new rules and nothing was being done before you posted them.

But, what can you expect? By now, everyone should know that you do what you do to make the surfers come back over and over. And, if it doesn't work out for you, you change the rules back.

But, according to most posts, you are going to be the downfall of free sites

2006-08-17, 03:22 AM	#85
LB I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 291	My personal opinion aside looks like we have a new standard and what is done is done. My question is ... does this count for sponsor hosted freesites aswell? We have a tidy little collection of them in for Titanbucks and just want to know if we will need to go through and update them all? Cheers. __________________ IW skype blance8888 icq 15567120

2006-08-17, 10:59 AM	#97
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Well, it is Fonz! Bigger pics to go with bigger sites that fit on bigger monitors!?!?!?!?!! WTF is wrong with me!?!?!?!?!?! I really wish I had the next 2 things ready to be released, because now it's going to look like I'm kissing every submitters ass when I do announce them. Or maybe I won't announce them at all - just put them into place & see who notices - because forbid people get upset with things that I think will benefit surfers & webmasters to my site __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-08-17, 11:16 AM	#99
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	With the way these new rules have been spreading on boards I thought I'd have to give a urine sample with each submit (I'd still win the Tour de France though). Seems to me like these are straight forward rules that a lot of webmasters have already been using for awhile now and it really isn't that dramatic of a change. So, why is everyone getting so excited over it? lol. Too bad though, I think I've missed the opportunity to join in the mass hysteria and now I feel leftout. __________________ 69Blue.com ICQ #223487665

2006-08-17, 12:26 AM	#80
Carrie Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 68	I'm happy that you're finally allowing 1024-width sites. I've been on here asking/debating that before, saying the LLs are demanding bigger pics but keeping us throttled to 800x600 displays in spite of the overwhelming majority of surfers being at 1024x768 or higher. For those of you who are saying "it's only 2 more pics"... umm, no... it's 4 more pics. That's a 20% increase in the free porn you're giving to the surfer. Still seem like "not so much"? (Btw not many seem to marry the "it's only 2 more pics" with the words "per gallery".) It's actually funny to see the other LL owners jumping on the bandwagon. I think if Greenie said "you must fart while submitting", pretty soon most of the LLs would have that rule as well! wink The no pics on html rule... well I guess the reasoning for this is less pages to check, but really, taking away advertising space is purposely hurting us. Additional pics, additional size all equal up to more bandwidth to please your surfers, but we can't advertise as much. Would you reconsider that rule?

2006-08-17, 02:38 AM	#84
WarBot If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 306	I guess the point that really hit home with me is when someone said (Im too lazy to look and see who) that link lists have to compete with tgp's. Its 1 click to get to the free porn compared to... more than 1 (Now Im too lazy to count). The only way to compete is with higher quality. Link lists get alot of search engine traffic, and I think alot of it is eventually lost to tgp's. This will help to prevent that. So I think its going to be better for everyone. Link lists will keep more bookmarkers, free site builders will have the benefit of the extra traffic to their sites. I finally get it.