More proof the Fox News is the Republican Party Mouthpiece

[RawAlex]

Well, looks like Tony Snow will give up the weekend TV show and take over as the press secretary for the White House. In reality, I guess that isn't much of a change.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/26/snow/index.html

What is it? Fair and Unbiased?

Wow. How can Americans swallow another shovel full of this shit?

Alex

[SirMoby]

He's always worked for the Bush family so this isn't a big deal. I think it's far better for people to have no doubt who Snow supports instead of thinking that he may be unbiased.

This is much better then wrapping his words in a false news show.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

He's always worked for the Bush family so this isn't a big deal. I think it's far better for people to have no doubt who Snow supports instead of thinking that he may be unbiased.

This is much better then wrapping his words in a false news show.

That is true, it would be great if all the fox newscasters worked for the white house. Anything to make them stop making their opinions look like facts. And if anybody knows anything...something that comes from today's white house is far from being a fact.

[sadman]

I doubt that anyone with a little brain would consider Snow unbiased. He used to substitute O'Reilly sometime and his anchoring was even worse than the original
Sadman

[RawAlex]

Based on the concept that the Foxnews channel gets significantly higher rating than CNN (O'Reilly gets almost 3 times more viewers than any CNN program), I fear that the slanted, one sided opinions of this station are taken as fact by a few too many people.

When FNC was added to Canadian sat tv, I watched it for a couple of days. It was right at the start of the Katrina stuff, and I couldn't believe how much they were covering up, sweeping under the rug, and how hard they were working to discredit any democrat involved in the process.

My favorite piece of amusement is this: The O'Reilly factor is a real pumper on terms like "fair and unbiased", "the no spin xzone" or whatever - and then the first thing that they have at the start of the show is called "talking points". How can you be a "no spin zone" when you are specifying up front what your spin will be on the stories, and which stories merit discussion and which don't?

Mr Snow joining the Whitehouse just moves the link between FNC and the WhiteHouse from "somewhat obvious" to "holy fuck".

Alex

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by sadman

I doubt that anyone with a little brain would consider Snow unbiased. He used to substitute O'Reilly sometime and his anchoring was even worse than the original
Sadman

In the USA people believe that Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation is focused on reporting the news instead of contgrolling the news. Hell, there was even a James Bond movie about controlling the news.

The Republicans make it easy for Rupert to control the news and in return he slats it thier way. Nothing could be more simple to understand but most Americans really can't be bothered by that.

[dareutwo]

The food network isn't biased (that's about all I watch)
I get the news from Minnesota Public Radio (which is on all day)
Gave up listening to monkey man years ago, so whatever this new mouthpiece has to say isn't going to matter much to many people. With ratings of 32 not many people are putting much stock in anything.

[Tommy]

I watch O Reilly almost every night
you have to look out for the little clues

I remember one time he was going on about this teacher that was doing some bush bashing in class

although the teacher was dead wrong

O reilly said in the promo
coming up next whatever about the teacher and his ANTI AMERICIAN remarks

see the connection..... the teachers remarks were "anti americian" because they were against Bush

[Tommy]

also I wanna add

Fox maintains that their way of thinking must be right and they show their ratings as proof as that

but what i have found is

most Republicans refuse to watch Cnn or Msnbc

but as you can see from this thread Liberals, libertarians, and democrats will watch fox

also an important point..
fox is the only right leaning news network so they get 100% of the right wing market

but there are a few left leaning news networks and they have to divide the left wing market

[Torn Rose]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/...fox/index.html

"...During a briefing led by White House spokesman Scott McClellan as President Bush was traveling to New Orleans, Louisiana, the Washington Post's Jim VandeHei asked why the White House televisions always seemed to be tuned to Fox News and if it was possible to have them tuned instead to CNN.

"It's come to my attention that there's been requests -- this is a serious question -- to turn these TVs onto a station other than Fox, and that those have been denied," VandeHei told McClellan, who is soon to be replaced by former Fox anchor and self-described conservative Tony Snow.

"My question would be, is there a White House policy that all government TVs have to be tuned to Fox?" VandeHei asked..."

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Wow. How can Americans swallow another shovel full of this shit?

Alex

Simple Alex. When it comes to politics Americans are lazy fuckers. But we sure do love to complain about our government. Complain about how it sucks, but when the time comes to change it most just sit back an make excuses how they don't have the time to read who stands for what and who is the canidate best for the job. Then they complain that it wont matter if they vote anymore cause it's all a fix. Either way, we just love to find something to complain about. But god help the country or person who speaks out about how fucked up we are. Ah just normal life here in the states.

[Linkster]

Voting - the biggest American joke going
Think about the fact that more Americans voted for their favorite on the American Idol tv show than voted in the Presidential elections

Of course Ive always been of the outlook that the only people that should be allowed to voice their opinion on politics are the people that actually take on their civic duty to vote in all elections from local to national.

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time,
and your government when it deserves it."

George W. Bush is proof that Intelligent Design doesnt work

[virgohippy]

I think it's because American's don't have much faith in thier politicians, who are so busy scurrying to cater to every popular whim they don't have the capacity to come up with truly creative solutions to existing problems.

Problem is, the American populous has grown so accustomed to getting what it wants it has no need to be bothered by politics. Why fight the good fight when, as Linkster pointed out, we can wash all our worries away by watching American Idol instead? We don't even know what the issues are, we're so busy argueing about what we THINK the issues might be!

Broadcast media serves the same purpose. People watch what they want, and arm themselves with comfortable information so they can make all the justifications they need for all the stupid shit they're not bothering to think about.

But why should I care? As long as they don't take my porno away from me, I'm gettin what I want.

[karomesis]

Wow. How can Americans swallow another shovel full of this shit?

Alex, I have always reffered to Machiavellis Prince when such troubling questions arise. The book was written 700 years ago and still holds as true today as when it was first written. I highly reccomend reading it.


"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor; for patriotism is indeed a double edged sword, it both emboldens the blood just as it narrows the mind; and when the drums of war have reached a fevered pitch and the blood bolis with hate, then the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry, for the citizenry infused with hate and blinded by fear will give up their rights, and gladly so, how do I know this? this is what I have done, and I am ceasar."- julius ceasar

"those who sacrifice liberty for temporary safety deserve neither"

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by karomesis

"those who sacrifice liberty for temporary safety deserve neither"

You forgot to attribute this last one to it's rightful owner:

- Benjamin Franklin

I got this posted in my blog already.

And I second the literature suggestion.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Voting - the biggest American joke going
Think about the fact that more Americans voted for their favorite on the American Idol tv show than voted in the Presidential elections

I have always wondered about voting

the largest amount of people that vote are white males, age 50 and up

and I beleive thats why for over 200 years some old white man is always elected president

what would happen if everybody over 18 voted or at least a large percentage of them voted

If that happened I think the republician would slowly disappear

maybe online voting could bring in a lot more younger people

[RawAlex]

Tommy, it is an interesting concept. The democrats especially have been pushing hard on the concept of "rock the vote" and signing up disenfranchised members of various ethnic communities that have been ignored by the white old boy network that is the republican party. During the Clinton era they did pretty well with this, but Gore and Kerry were just way to whitebread it seems to have gotten any attention.

The issue in politics always is that the organizers tend to be older and white, and they are more likely to talk to thier older white friends, and the action all happens at that end of the spectrum.

The run of Hillary Clinton in 2008 would certainly shake things up and potentially bring a bunch more voters to the table that have so far had nobody to cheer for.

Alex

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Voting - the biggest American joke going
Think about the fact that more Americans voted for their favorite on the American Idol tv show than voted in the Presidential elections

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