MadMoolah - DirtyDaisy.com

[JaceXXX]

I never thought i would see the day that normal webmasters bitch and moan about a search engine script giving them free backlinks

geez, this biz never ceases to amaze me

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by fr0gman

You people amuse me.

You people don't amuse me... I think it's sad that you are so ill-informed.

dont want your stuff on google read their faq's on how to remove yourself from se's

better hit up google and yahoo then because its the same thing except they dont give you any credit..

So you people think that if something is listed in Google then it is fair game for your site/pages???

You are sadly mistaken...!

I give/gave/have given permission for Google to use/post/display more text pages and images.. but you know I never gave Trolls Incorporated persmission, so when Trolls Incorporated uses my text/images etc, it is copyright and trademark infringement.


It is really quite simple..

Frogman, if you really have an "attorney" get him to explain it to you.... better yet,.. get him(or her) to come here and explain it to you.. so we don't have to explain it again to the next bunch of cowboys.


DD

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

I never thought i would see the day that normal webmasters bitch and moan about a search engine script giving them free backlinks

FREE BACKLINKS??!!
WTF!!

Backlinks from script generated, non-relevant, google scraped spam pages............. LOL if that is the best backlinks you can get.. good luck to you

DD

[JaceXXX]

LOL...this place is hilarious

thanks for the laugh guys, I am goin to bed

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

So you people think that if something is listed in Google then it is fair game for your site/pages???

no what I am saying is i am a search engine just like google

explain the difference ?

Originally Posted by DangerDave

I give/gave/have given permission for Google to use/post/display more text pages and images.. but you know I never gave Trolls Incorporated persmission, so when Trolls Incorporated uses my text/images etc, it is copyright and trademark infringement.

you have given permission to google and most people haven't, my search engine is the same as google its an opt-out not opt-in. I never asked nor gave permission for google to display my site on their se.. google and yahoo have given me permission to use their results on my site in the form of PUBLIC api's [/quote]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

It is really quite simple..

it is quite simple that why i have a hard time understanding why your upset.. If you dont want your publicly accessable pictures or text to be seen , dont give public access to them..

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

FREE BACKLINKS??!!
WTF!!

Backlinks from script generated,

lol script generated pages are bad ? LOL

Originally Posted by DangerDave

non-relevant,

relevence is your on opinion.

se's seem to think otherwise

Check how many backlinks google has given you lately. ZERO..

mine gives you 1 .. now lets see , if you had 1 ice cream are you better off than having 0 ice creams ?

You may not like the type of ice cream but its ice cream none the less and its better tha no ice cream..

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear

no what I am saying is i am a search engine just like google

Oh OK.... so you are equivalent to Google now.?? is that what you are trying to tell me?

my search engine is the same as google its an opt-out not opt-in

Ok... so if I give you a list of our x hundred domains you will make sure your script never "scrapes" them...?

If you dont want your publicly accessable pictures or text to be seen , dont give public access to them..

OK so if I post something ON MY SITE, you think that you have the right to do what you want with what I have posted.. because it's now "public"?! is that right?

Last I saw "public domain" use of copyrighted material/images went out with the ark....

script generated pages are bad ?

Of course they are...... because they are generated se spam pages that have the same format/structure.

Check how many backlinks google has given you lately. ZERO..

Ok.. so now you work for Google and know how many backlinks I have?



.... and to complete the demonstration of your extensive ignorance in regard to Google...........

You may not like the type of ice cream but its ice cream none the less and its better tha no ice cream.

Yes.... without question.... I would rather have NO LINKS than one from script generated, non-relevant, google scraped spam pages.

DD

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Oh OK.... so you are equivalent to Google now.?? is that what you are trying to tell me?

yes a search engine is a search engine is a search engine , are you telling me google has inherent right to do things others shouldnt ?

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Ok... so if I give you a list of our x hundred domains you will make sure your script never "scrapes" them...?

exactly , thats how google works.. same way my site doesnt "scrape" your site in any way it collects data from publicly accesible api's given by the se's for web developers to use on their site

your barking up the wrong tree , tell yahoo not to give out api's

Originally Posted by DangerDave

OK so if I post something ON MY SITE, you think that you have the right to do what you want with what I have posted.. because it's now "public"?! is that right?

i didnt say that at all , i certainly have the right to link to it, thats what makes the internet the internet.

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Last I saw "public domain" use of copyrighted material/images went out with the ark....

last i heard se's were exempt thats how google gets to do it and every other popular search engine. they certainly dont wait for people to submit their pages LOL

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Of course they are...... because they are generated se spam pages that have the same format/structure.

hmm relevent pages with relevent content.. and your beef is the pages look the same ? so does this forum .. i guess greenguy is a spammer

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Ok.. so now you work for Google and know how many backlinks I have?

look if your going to act like a child i will treat you like one..

.... and to complete the demonstration of your extensive ignorance in regard to Google...........

YOU dont have ANY "BACKLINKS from google dipshit..

googl doesnt give credit for sites found in their results . go look at their robots.txt you will see why

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Yes.... without question.... I would rather have NO LINKS than one from script generated, non-relevant, google scraped spam pages.

DD

unfortunately thats not how search engines work, they dont ask permission first.


How is every page having relevent content " non-relevant" are you brain dead ? hello this forum is script generated you idiot..

[Useless]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear

i take full responsobility as i gave him the template with the missing credit in the template , but i assure you, i built this script with webmasters in mind.

Not only was there no back link, it was also hotlinking an image directly from me, not just Google Images. Was that part of the template or did Vegas add that himself?

Also, shall I assume that the dynamic page bearing my domain name, which was posted by your frog-friend, will appear in the SEs after Google (and others) bot this thread? I would consider that injurious to my domain. That single link back, buried on the page, won't count for shit against the excessive use of my domain name in both text and images.

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

you know, I just noticed, and I didn't before, that the script actually does give a link back....LOL...jesus, I have never seen someone complain about getting a free one way link, the time are a changin I guess

How is your unbiased opinion coming along? As Smokey just admitted, I received no back link. So you're just blabbering.

Frogboy - eat me.

[Licker4U]

A little off topic but why is there a "T" in SmokeyTBear?

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Not only was there no back link, it was also hotlinking an image directly from me, not just Google Images. Was that part of the template or did Vegas add that himself?

Read up in th thread.. the script is built on a template system , as i explained his template didnt have the credit part in his template that i gave him because it was a test server just like the one posted above

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Also, shall I assume that the dynamic page bearing my domain name, which was posted by your frog-friend, will appear in the SEs after Google (and others) bot this thread?

I cant stop google from spidering greenguy nor can i stop them spidering my site. Thats how search engines work. The script is on a test server that has no pages listed in google , it was an example of how the script works, if your truly worried about it , like i said theres a proper way to have your stuff removed from the se's and i'd be appy to work with you , if not thats your choise

I hate to have to explain what a domain is but here goes.. YAHOO is not a domain , YAHOO.com is a domain

Are you trying to tell me that people arent allowed to mention the name of a domain ?? cmon now lol are you telling me you have never mentioned a site name on your site ?

You ask google everytime you say "google" ?

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I would consider that injurious to my domain. That single link back, buried on the page, won't count for shit against the excessive use of my domain name in both text and images.

If you dont want se's crawling your site TURN IT OFF. Did i give you permission to mention my site above ? nope

so its do as i say not as i do ?

Should google remove greenguy because it has hotlinked pictures with 0 credit ?




I understand its a somewhat confusing issue for you , but theres no point being rude, we are all on the same team of life

[Useless]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear

I understand its a somewhat confusing issue for you , but theres no point being rude, we are all on the same team of life

Smokey, this is not at all a confusing topic for me. I really don't understand why you feel it necessary to talk down to me.

Where did I say or imply that I didn't want Google crawling and indexing my pages? You are making an absurd assumption or you aren't quite comprehending my posts.

What I don't want is for surfers to go to Google, type in "mydomainname" (as a compound word, obviously searching for my site) and get YOUR page with it's one BURIED link back. I, and any other reasonable non-cheating webmaster, would perceive that as traffic theft. If a friend links to my site, or mentions my site on theirs, that's fine. But if someone deliberately uses my site's name in order to gain traffic for themselves while creating a potential loss for me, that, I take as a hostile move against my interests.

So I'm left to assume, since you don't care to address the point directly, that your script and the template you created is at fault for directly hotlinking the image from my site, as seen in G's cache of his page. This entire thread is based upon the hotlinking of a single image - which I have since deleted. You can keep taking this thread away from that point, but all it does draw more attention to the fact that Vegas of MadMoolah hotlinked one of my images, most likely due to your less than honest script.

By the way, we are most definately not on the same team. I pride myself in being an honest, hard working webmaster.

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Where did I say or imply that I didn't want Google crawling and indexing my pages?

You said you dont want the word of your site being displayed on se's or partularly my se yet you dont seem to understand how search engines work..

You place a txt file in your root directory outlining what folders you dont want to give public access to.

Once you do that your site wont be displayed on se's like mine.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What I don't want is for surfers to go to Google, type in "mydomainname" (as a compound word, obviously searching for my site) and get YOUR page with it's one BURIED link back.

then block access to se's im not going to keep explaining to you how to use a fucking se

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I, and any other reasonable non-cheating webmaster, would perceive that as traffic theft.

google is traffic theft ? your talking crazy talk ..

se's commit traffic theft by linking to you ?

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If a friend links to my site, or mentions my site on theirs, that's fine.

you mentioned my site above , i didnt give you permission are you a traffic thief ?

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

But if someone deliberately uses my site's name in order to gain traffic for themselves while creating a potential loss for me, that, I take as a hostile move against my interests.

nobody deliberatley used your site name , its an se , go to google type in your name guess what results..

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

So I'm left to assume, since you don't care to address the point directly, that your script and the template you created is at fault for directly hotlinking the image from my site, as seen in G's cache of his page.

try reading the thread.. pay close attention to the post that i ack's it was my fault for giving him the template without the courtesy link because it was a test script.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

This entire thread is based upon the hotlinking of a single image

that you yourself have done am i correct ?

That both yahoo and google do , but neither of them give you backlink and furthermore yahoo disables your google adsense code and all cookie and javascript on your site..

um ok..

[Useless]

Holy Fuck! You are a complete imbecile! Truly, you have me astonished at your utter fucking stupidity. I am in awe.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

So I'm left to assume, since you don't care to address the point directly, that your script and the template you created is at fault for directly hotlinking the image from my site, as seen in G's cache of his page. This entire thread is based upon the hotlinking of a single image - which I have since deleted. You can keep taking this thread away from that point,

That is the bottom line. Simple issue that never seemed to get covered always only what the script does in google and yahoo.

[Useless]

Woohoo! Look at all the great links I'm getting for free! Wow, these inventive new SEs are genius. I'm going to have to get a bigger mailbox to handle all of the checks!
http://www.fusker.lv/index.php?lid=3...ringwives.com&

[Greenguy]

So if Fusker links back to you after hotlinking all your images, it's ok.

Good to know

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenie

So if Fusker links back to you after hotlinking all your images, it's ok.

Good to know

Of course! But these modern SEOs don't like to use the term hotlinking. They prefer dynamic image indexing or assfucking.

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by Greenie

So if Fusker links back to you after hotlinking all your images, it's ok.

Good to know

my search script it neither fusker nor does it hotlink all your pics. its a search engine just like google or yahoo.

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Woohoo! Look at all the great links I'm getting for free! Wow, these inventive new SEs are genius. I'm going to have to get a bigger mailbox to handle all of the checks!
http://www.fusker.lv/index.php?lid=3...ringwives.com&

thanks for explaining that you dont understand the difference between a backlink and a link to a picture that wont give you any credit

[DangerDave]

Don't call me a dipshit ya fucking trogolodyte!


Answer this one question for me....

Why did you make this script?


Answer that and it should become clear why I think you are bloodsucking, parasitic, free-loader!

DD

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear

my search script it neither fusker nor does it hotlink all your pics. its a search engine just like google or yahoo.

I think the key word there is "all"

So hotlinking some, most, a few, half or just one is ok?

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I think the key word there is "all"

So hotlinking some, most, a few, half or just one is ok?

you tell me ? are there hotlinked pictures on this forum ?

Is it ok when yahoo does it with all your pics then offers them to webmasters like myself to use ? even offering the ability ( that i chose NOT to use ) of searching by domain..

[Useless]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear

thanks for explaining that you dont understand the difference between a backlink and a link to a picture that wont give you any credit

Sorry, I didn't realize that my facetiousness would put you beyone your depth. I'll try to use small words and avoid any humor, if possible.

[SmokeyTbear]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Don't call me a dipshit ya fucking trogolodyte!

don't call me a trogolodyte dipshit

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Answer this one question for me....

Why did you make this script?

to allow users to offer the ability to search yahoo , google and youtube at the same time. not a hard concept.

Infact i can explain exactly how i came up with the idea..

One day i noticed 3gb of bandwidth from yahoo images for the month.

So i go and check and i notice yahoo has disabled my adsense code and disabled cookie tracking and disabled all my movies and javascript.. leaving only the picture , with no profit for me. and NO backlink

So i decided , i should build a system that HELPS webmasters by offering the EXACT same service but WITH backlinks so the webmaster gets to make money

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Answer that and it should become clear why I think you are bloodsucking, parasitic, free-loader!

DD

Sounds like you have already made up your mind..